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Do you have a theory about who or what is worrying whom in the 5 of Pentacles—and why or how?

@DanielJUK Thank you for trying, but it´s not any one of them. Maybe it was private pictures that now have been removed. I remember that the pictures showed that the spread was done from one room to another and there was a door opening and that the spread was over the thresholder.

I'm in this week with the Deviant Moon and Making Magick cards

I've moved this to the Tarot Spreads area 🙂 Having a search through, here are some ideas, although they don't really fit your description 100% There are some threads discussing Etteilla's Great Figure of Destiny Spread but the threads with details about the spread no longer exist I found this history text page of this spread - https://sacred-texts.com/tarot/ftc/ftc21.htm (from halfway down the page) There is this one that is supposed to look like a person - https://www.tarotforum.net/threads/78-card-insight-spread.218978/ Okay not a body shape but this is Rahdue's Wheel and has personal themes - https://www.tarotforum.net/threads/78-card-spread.36407/page-2

@Rose Lalonde Sorry, but it isn´t that one.

It's likely NOT the Adam Kadmon based spread called Sword & Shield, since that has 15 positions, but your question made me think that "Adam Kadmon" might be a good search term for for a large, person-shaped spread. On the off chance that many cards are used in each position, here's the one I thought of. It's from the Thoth forum rather than the spreads forum. Sword & Shield Spread - GD Derivative -- Likely none of that is helpful 🙃, but I guess it can't hurt in case...

I have been searching Aeclectic up and down for a spread that I can´t find again. It was made of all 78 cards and spread out on the floor in the shape of a person. Two pictures was taken, one on the upper part of the "person" and one on the lower part. Is there anyone of you "old" Aeclectic members that remember this spread or at least have seen it?

Yes!

Adding the Taurus 1 tabulamundi.com post in the first post momentarily -- and it's here. My desk for this decan:

Thank you, for letting me in! @fire cat pickles So I just chat away in this tread then?!😉 My card for this Easter Monday is 8 of Chalices, a man is walking out of a gate with his walking stick in his right hand. He´s facing large mountains in the distance. He/me knows that I have a challenging thing in front of me, and I think I just have faced that by becoming a member in this thread.

A clean surface is enough but I sometimes use a cloth too. But haven't found one yet that feels like it's the right one.

Welcome to the group @Libra 58! The DoW Group is a fun and enlightening way to share how your decks can work for others, to highlight new or unique reading techniques and spreads, and perhaps to introduce new decks for other members.

I´m new to this but I will try to have a go at it. Sorry about my poor English. I will work with my " Tarot of the 78 doors". I don't even know why I chose this deck as my 2025 deck. The pictures make no sense to me most of the time. I really need to think more than ones about what it means and sometimes I just go with what I feel about the picture.

I'm with @Arkana on this. I use a plain white cotton/linen square tablecloth (card-table size). I put this over my ordinary tablecloth and waterproof pad on my large dining room table when I do a reading. Plain white seems just right ...no interference, and the cards are easy to see. I had tried dark cloths before, but found it difficult to see the cards. Then I thought ...what's wrong with white? Nothing! I also use a plain white linen dish towel folded over when I do daily readings while sitting in bed with my lap tray, using my mini decks.

Welcome back @Rachelcat and @Natural Mystic Guide 🙂

I am continuing to enjoy playing with my Greenwood Tarot. I just love this deck. I am so grateful that I could find a copy to buy.

Hi, everybody! Happy spring! We've finally got spring weather here! This week will be Messages from Her and Tarocchino al Soldato Bologna 1750 CA. Messages from Her is a 44-card deck featuring remarkable women of the 20th and 21st centuries with a keyword for each. Cards have gold foil touches and edges, and it comes with a hardbound book. Tarocchino al Soldato is a “small tarot,” meaning it is missing 2-5 of each suit. Soldato means soldier. According to the booklet, that was the business sign of the card making factory, one among many in Bologna in the 1750s. Tall thin cards. Rustic woodcuts. The popess, empress, emperor, and pope are replaced by four dark-skinned rulers in turbans. I guess I’ll try to figure out which is which if they turn up in a reading! (No titles or numbers on any cards.) Chariot and World feature Mercury in his winged helmet and shoes. Star looks like a Fame card, with a crowned figure crowning someone else. Moon has astronomers, and the Sun a spinster. Fool is a traveling one man band. Two interviews! What is your most important characteristic? Marilyn Monroe, Charisma The deck is attractive and easy to like. What is your strength? Patsy Mink, Independence A Japanese-American congressional representative in the 60s and 70s who supported many civil rights issues. The deck has chosen some more controversial figures to feature, and that’s a good thing. Your weakness? Malala, Courage Maybe it could have featured more women who faced more terrible challenges? What can you teach me? Me! I love that it includes this card. I can learn more about me while learning about other strong women. How can I learn it? Georgia O’Keeffe, Slow Down A quote says she based her art on taking the time to REALLY see something before creating its image. By taking time to think about my readings, not just breeze through them. What will be the outcome of our work together? Frida Kahlo, Turn Inward Two artists. The quote is “I am my own muse.” So the outcome will be that the deck will help me learn more about myself. Sounds good to me! What is your most important characteristic? 9 Coins I will enjoy owning the deck. What is your strength? 6 Coins It IS something worth having. It’s a gift to the world from the publisher! Thanks, Lo Scarabeo, for your Anima Antiqua series! Your weakness? 9 Batons I’ll have to go through some work to defend using a deck without all the cards. What can you teach me? King of Cups I can like what I like. I’m in charge of my own feelings. How can I learn it? Judgment By taking the higher road. I can rise above pettiness and emotional nonsense. What will be the outcome of our work together? Fool Oh, the places we’ll go! It will be a crazy but fun trip!

I came up with this a few months ago, and it usually helps me get back in a good mood after a hard day. A few things you need are- Hibiscus petals rose petals cloves cinnamon stick pink salt a small bowl/container First, cleanse the bowl and put it in a salt circle. In no particular order, put the ingredients in the bowl, breaking the cinnamon stick into smaller parts so it fits. Take a deep breath, and focus on all the good things that happened that day, even if there weren't many. Think about something that made you smile, a funny joke someone told you, anything that made you feel good. Then, rest your hands around the bowl and focus that energy into the mixture. (Smiling also helps) Stir it 3 times clockwise, and let it sit overnight. The next day, you can use it as a spray or ointment to raise your mood.

This was a very nice spread to work with. If I recall correctly, I saw you post this spread on a different thread a while ago and I've tried it since. I haven't used the permutation technique, but I'm eager to try that in practice! Recently today, I used it for a friend who asked me about what he should consider as he's moving to a different state. ("What do I need to know to navigate this new transition in my life successfully?")

A unique version of Reading Circle for those who would like to work through their collection of decks, participants choose decks from their collections to work with for the week. Some use one deck, others use two or more. Some combine methods: Tarot, non-tarot (e.g. oracle), playing cards, or any other divinatory method is welcome. All we ask is that you use at least one tarot or oracle deck. No collection is too large or too small. The only rules we have are the Tarot, Tea & Me Rules; Be respectful of one other. Please join us! Please post with your choice of deck(s) for the week Chat away about your deck, how you're finding it (or not), etc., it's all up to you Participants may either choose to share their readings here in this discussion thread or opt to have their own journal in the Journals Forum and link it here Yet others may even have an offline journal in paper & pencil/pen form Share as often, as much, or as little as you like. You can drop in and out at anytime—reality and life permitting. New to tarot? Long time reader? Come on in! Participants fire cat pickles: Liber T Tarot of Stars Eternal and Oracle of the Radiant Sun Rachelcat: Messages from Her and Tarocchino al Soldato Bologna 1750 CA Natural Mystic Guide: The Greenwood Libra 58: Tarot of the 78 Doors Click here for DoW 406 (4/14 - 4/20)

In that context, yes. Not in a card reading context. Especially when you take into account the fact that a little studio isn't going to grind a trope into peoples' heads the way a lifetime of television will. More here.

@katrinka we have a big belly dancing studio where I am. Coins are seen as belly dancing, not a Romani thing.

If I was doing Ren Faires, I'd use a cloth, too. But it's a razor's edge avoiding things that could be seen as Romani/ethnic. Personally I wouldn't touch coins with a ten foot pole. That works best, AFAIC. It's a reading, not a performance. YMMV, etc.

Since the GD came up with the astrological correspondences to cards that we're following (as opposed to Levi's etc)... As a mental exercise, I like to do what Waite and Crowley did, which was take the GD framework of correspondences, and decide how it all comes together to form the meaning of a card. (Of course, it wasn't only astrology they looked at; there was hermetic Qabalah, alchemy, etc.) -- I mean, starting from the same correspondences from their time in the GD, Waite and Crowley sometimes came up with different meanings. Or dropped part of the GD framework. Waite didn't keep the GD's Prince and Princess courts; Crowley changed several of the majors' titles, and especially the meaning of The Aeon/Judgement. I'm no Waite or Crowley! 😅 But I don’t think that should stop us from peeking 'under the hood' at to see what we would come up with -- even if only as a supplement to what Waite and Crowley have given us. All that groundwork laid, I'll be presumptuous and look at the first decan of Taurus' 5 of Disks myself, like they did: 1) The Lord of Material Trouble 2) There's this first, cardinal decan moving into fixed earth Taurus (as @Nemia mentioned), ruled by speedy and energetic Mercury. So change in this cardinal decan, but becoming solid and fixed in a way Aries wasn't. 3) Plus via hermetic Qabalah, we get Mars for all of the 5s (again as Nemia mentioned), so there's a lot of energy leftover from Aries and crashing into earth. Dione Fortune calls the 5s the "pruning knife," paring down what isn't necessary after the expansive Jupiter 4s, both off balance on side pillars. They will finally come together in the balanced 6's but we're not there yet. Since the 4s relate to expansive Jupiter, the RWS 4 of Pents tends toward hording the material and trying to keep the status quo -- but it hits the reality of the 5. What is the problematic reality of the 5 of Disks? For the GD it's trouble related to material things. @fire cat pickles talked a bit about what that meant to Crowley. And in the RWS you get the people who need support but don't see that it's there or aren't welcome. -- Or you might see the Thoth and RWS cards differently. What matters is that it's not the imagery from the original GD deck of a hand holding a branch with 5 pents. When I see a card that shows us running up against the reality of the material world, I think of impermanence -- one of Buddhism's '3 characteristics of existence'. Especially since even Crowley called the 2 of Disks Change, the nature of all things from bodies to atoms to galaxies. So when I drew a deck for myself, I drew an Ozymandias-like statue to show that things that seem like they'll last forever and are reliable and set in stone are eventually wittled away to rubble. You might know of things happening in the world that relate to this. But impermanence can also mean, "This too shall pass." Which might be a relief. Those ideas may not resonate for you at all. We come to tarot with our own world views. But I like that we can do what Crowley and Waite did if we want-- actively look at these decans and ask ourselves what these symbols and metaphors mean to us.