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I've always wondered about that deck. Maybe it's OK, maybe not. Nobody really talks about it. LOL, that's BEAUTEOUS. I'm off to look! ETA: All of "Tony's" comments have been removed. But seeing the fallout was Very Good.

I don't claim to know firsthand, but everything points to "absolutely not." She won't. But Kickstarter is a business. They won't go for "her brother says" or secondhand stories. Businesses like things on paper, guaranteed. That's highly doubtful. By all accounts, she's quite fragile and her family is protecting her. Mark Ryan must have really done a number on her. He strongarmed his way into the Greenwood when she had already finished most of the paintings and managed to get his name on the thing for writing a bad guidebook. He's been bugging people trying to find her for YEARS. He's being pushy and stalkerish. I'm not sensitive or fragile like I get the impression Chesca is, but if somebody stalked me for a quarter century it would definitely put me on edge. I'd be making police reports and sleeping with a 9mm. He doesn't fascinate me. I just feel compelled to speak up when I see the kind of abuse she's getting. A taco is still a taco. The tacos I get here are different from the ones I've had in Mexico, but it's still a taco. Nobody uses the word "taco" to indicate a tree or a storm drain. We do have words: consequences, punishment, and a slew of others. Plus idioms like "he'll get his," "FAFO", etc. No need to appropriate "karma." Drifting a bit with the karma discussion, yes. We've been mostly good, though. 👼 A television series with a washed up actor, no less. 🤣

Superbacker "Tony" has apparently been naysaying in the comments section. To the point that Martin Hughes is trying to get him removed from the campaign (since only backers can comment).

Chesca's contract for the Celtic Shaman deck might have been different, allowing them to continue to use the art. That's what I would assume since it doesn't seem to have been an issue.

We don't have a location field on profiles where members say where they are from, so it's not possible to search that way. Also quite a few members keep their profile very anon of details. However we can search these introductions and who mentioned Germany here - https://www.thetarotforum.com/search/?q=germany&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=10

Actually, a similar things has happened with the "Celtic's Shaman Pack". I bought it some time ago, completely innocent. But is is a reprint, but with Chesca's consent? Who knows? At least both Dave Matthews and Chesca Potter are credited in 2021, as is the whole release. So I hope it is ok.

That resurfacing would mean reverting to being Chesca and all that comes with it. Perhaps that's not what she wants. Who knows? Not me. We don't know she's living like this. She could be a nun. An author under a pen name. She could have enjoyed the challenge of rebuilding a reputation under another name. Regardless, she holds the Ace card in this situation. It's actually very smart. He obviously isn't. As for him, let him be the dog that goes back to his own vomit. We're watching him do it which is why we're fixated on it - an awful but fascinating observation of the human creature. English is comprised of words derived from other languages. I'm not sure using a word that describes something there's no equivalent of in our own language is cultural appropriation. We're both going off topic though. We would have to wait and see. It's a bit like watching a television series. How does it all end?!?!!!! 😆

The Sacred Traveller is IMHO a wonderful feel-good deck. It actually found me, I grabbed it almost unconciously, before I realized. BTW I am from Germany too, NRW, near Wuppertal.

Good to know that deck reviews or flip-throughs are available on YouTube. Thanks for mentioning it. And yes, the Sacred Traveler deck is probably the one closest to my heart.

Hello @spmkde welcome to the TT&M Family

It never occured to me that I could combine the cards 🙂 Interesting approach. Maybe I can adapt this, too. For the oracle decks I usually just ask for general advice / what's important right now and draw one card. As with your approach, this helps me to increase confidence, faith, and trust. It's most often encouraging.

My oracle decks are fairly mundane, compared to yours! And I only have three. I use Philip Carr/Stephanie Gomm's The Druid Plant Oracle, and also Phil and Jacqui Lovesey's The Arboridium and their The Majick Cottage oracles. I use the Druid Plant Oracle as a finish to many of my standard tarot readings. I just pull one Plant card and decide how that plant's properties apply to the reading I just got. (I love plants, and am fairly knowledgeable about their uses.) I use the other two just for fun, because I love the artwork. When I'm in a grouchy or downcast or fearful state of mind, I pull a few of these and always feel calmer and more optimistic. They are cute, but not cutesy, if that makes sense. 🙂 How do you use your oracle cards? On their own, or with tarot? I am not familiar with the ones you quoted, but they sound like 'serious' oracle cards. Ah, just had a look at the Sacred Traveler Oracle Deck on YouTube and realised I'd seen it before and actually considered owning it. I think it might be useful. I'll put it back on my wish list.

I'm very happy with my Printer's Studio copy, but this sounds like a plan. Hey, what do you guys think of this? Backstory: A racist woman was verbally abusing a child, calling him a horrible slur word repeatedly. It went all over the internet and she got doxxed, so she raised over $773,000 at a site called Givesendgo (it's like a GoFundMe for racists) so she could move. So this 🔥 BRILLIANT 🔥 woman, Kiandria Demone, is trying to see to it that she doesn't get the money. She says that dealing with Givesendgo would be pointless, and she's correct. But there's ANOTHER way. This are her words, from the transcript of the video: I've been doing a little sleuthing. Right. So what I thought about as a business owner, what do I what do I want to hit? Do I want to hit her or do I want to hit the money? So I thought about that. So I started searching and trying to figure out how can I find this funding source? I'm a business owner. I own a retail store, so I know there is a funding source. There's a pipeline somewhere, right? Givesendgo is a platform she uses, but they are not the bank. So I thought like, we gotta find a bank and most banks are not going to want to be attached to something like that, right? Like most banks, especially payment processors, they will cut that off with any type of doubt or controversy. They'll usually just cut it off. Right. So what I did, I used to be a web developer. So I know how to code and I know how to read code. So I went and I broke down the code on Givesendgo, check out the page line for line. And there were keywords I wanted to look for, right? So I looked for keywords and I started looking through the keywords and I found the keyword Block Inc. Right. That's familiar right? Block Inc. is the parent company of Square. So I went and I did my researching and it turns out, yeah, that's their payment processor. https://youtu.be/Bl15cWi22Ro?si=rNYaN3_viyLG6ziu While supporting a woman who calls a child that word is utterly repulsive, it's possible that a bank wouldn't want to be associated with copyright theft, either. That's certainly worth trying. Any business-savvy coders here? Does anybody know one who might assist in finding out who processes the payments?

True. But she's known and loved. If she resurfaced, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if someone took the case pro bono, and if there was a fundraiser created for court costs, filing fees, and whatever else might arise. I have to disagree with this. She's living like a wanted fugitive. That's an extremely difficult way to live, not being able to use your real name, living in fear of being discovered. Can she get a driver's license? Open a bank account in her own name? If she works, can she only work under the table? She can't even put up a website selling her art under her real name. Things like that could make her traceable, and Mark Ryan is NOT a nice person. He's been looking for her for years. She probably has to depend on family for things we do ourselves and take for granted. And she hasn't even committed a crime. She's not "disconnected from the situation." She's had to arrange her whole life around this. Mark Ryan is a bully, and the way to deal with bullies is to hit back. But some people just can't. Yes, intentions are relevant. It's all very complex and much of it isn't clear cut enough for us to get our little wet brains around. But it's cause and effect nonetheless, at least from the Eastern perspective. And that's where the concept comes from: Buddhism, Hinduism. It's not for us Westerners to revise it. We can have our own concepts, but we need to stop calling them "karma." It smacks of cultural appropriation. I can't. Nobody "knows how it is for sure." What I was doing was trying to explain the concept of karma. And while I'm not qualified to give Dharma talks, I do know that karma is not what people in the West mean when they use the word. I wouldn't put anything past him. But I'm thinking the originals would say ©1996, while this new edition would say ©1996, 2025. If he really wanted to defraud people on ebay for the full price, he'd have to print decks without the 2025 copyright, a well as boxes showing the original publisher, Thorson's. And didn't a book come with it? It would be a whole separate print run. Of course he could sell just decks in shrinkwrap. They'd fetch a much lower price but it would be easier. Some might suggest a lot of things on the internet, like insisting the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism. Actually, it's very clear cut. It only requires a conscience. If they refuse to look for work or ask for help, yes, it is. If they've exhausted all other avenues - job search, food pantries, food stamp office, etc. - and gotten nothing, the obligation not to let their children starve outweighs any prohibition on theft. They need to get their butt out there and steal bread. Cheese too, and shove a few bags of beans and rice down their shirt if they can.

Hi Daniel, is there any feature here on this forum to search other members by location? Something like a members map. This would be helpful to meet others nearby in person.

How we get a message in the cards is a philosophical question, we don't know the answer for sure. It's all very High Priestess, we can only guess and decide for ourselves. I think the big debate is if it comes from us or another force? Does it come from the collective unconscious, through us (like Jung said) or angels, God, Goddesses, spirits, our dead loved ones? I think we all have different ideas. Maybe it's just from us looking at the pictures or what we have learnt. But the question about being objective, even if we get the knowledge from somewhere / something outside us, how do we interpret it and give the message objectively? "The ideal" in tarot reading is to do a reading objectively for others and for ourselves but really it's tricky. I know on this forum there is some people who cannot read for themselves. I think you can only know if we are reading it objectively if we get other opinions. I know that sometimes I do have to ask friends to read for me or give me a second opinion, I am just too close to it. Also when you get to 5 posts on the forum, you can post readings with your interpretation to get second opinions and ideas from the members. So I don't know the message is objective because I am interpreting it and sometimes I am just too close to the subject. It's definitely easier to read for others.

May I have that link, too, please?

Thank you! I mean no disrespect to Mi-Shell's efforts, I know that was what she had available. Her continued hosting of Greenwood material, especially Chesca's own guidebook, is incredibly appreciated!

Yes, there is a better version, I'll find the link and send it to you.

Welcome Sebastian / @spmkde Glad you have found us on the forum, we have quite a few German members around the place 🙂 We do have some community abbreviations and you were not to know and people use all kinds of Rider Waite abbreviations 🙂 At least you spelt Rider right which I know drives some of the deck fans mad! Just thinking off the top of my head - RWS - Rider Waite Smith, OOP - Out of Print, I am sure there are others around the place.

Yeah, both those links go to the same document, I think. While we're asking, does anyone have a better version of the alternate Lovers card? The one in Mi-Shell's pdf is so washed-out.

We don't know how Chesca feels about it. She disappeared years ago, and anything we think we know about her since then is just speculation. Copyright law protects her art regardless. I think that's what we need to focus on. Not what she would want (we don't know what she would want!), but what the law can do about those trying to use her work for their personal gain.

I would say it depends on what kind of question you asked. If you didn't ask a question, but just drew some cards and hoped they would give you some insight into an issue, then I'd say the result would probably reflect your ongoing state of mind plus the circumstances of the issue. The cards would reflect the 'state of things at the moment' and give you something to analyse. As to where the origin of the tarot's message comes from ...well, I think we'd all like to know the answer to that! We all have theories; I just assume that if the cards tell the truth, I don't really need to know what's behind them. Is it me reading into them what I want to see (or fear to see)? I don't know. I also don't know if I attract a certain kind of reading. I suspect not, as sometimes the readings show what I want to happen, while other times they shatter what I'm hoping will happen. The biggest challenge for me is to settle back and really open my mind. It's a challenge to not see 'bad cards' as a catastrophe! How many times have I received The Tower or The 10 of Swords in a reading ...and yet, here I still am! 🙂 If you asked an actual question rather than just insight, however, then Advice might come into it. Myself, I ALWAYS ask for advice, and always include a section of the spread to give it. For me, the advice is usually the most important part of the reading. Actually I rarely ask for an 'outcome,' but rather take the advice offered. That usually does the trick.

Hi Chariot, thanks for your message. My bad regarding the RWT. RWT = Rider Waite Tarot. Forgot the Smith 🙂 And you are right, the colors of the Centennial RWS are really subdued. My favourite oracle decks would be: Sacred Traveler Oracle Cards by Denise Linn Conscious Spirit Oracle Deck by Kim Dreyer Wisdom of the Oracle by Colette Baron-Reid Mary Queen of Angels Oracle Cards by Doreen Virtue What are your favourites?

06: Taurus 2 from April 30 - May 10 (6 of Spheres) Catching up here! It was an eventful, if not busy, span of time during this period. This decan certainly reflects the energy implied for Moon in Taurus. My last day full time at my last service was the 29th and my first day was May 3rd. The comforts of material pleasure are inherent in this card, but this comes with a warning: the "approach to perfection ... is transient" according the the Book of Thoth. The figure in the Liber T looks as if he is lording over the characters in the cards below as if to say that success is there, for now. Taurus tends to be immobile, resistant to change. Learning from mistakes is not a fixed Taurean trait. In order to enjoy continued success Taurus must learn to change like the phases of the moon in which he is exalted. This irony is echoed in the OORS. The cornucopia flowers beneath the crescent moon only temporarily. The lesson here is to enjoy the fruits of success in the present, for they may be short-lived.