Panda Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I have decided the Moon is my "work" card, as well as indicating recognition and personal success. However, I am interested in what else the Moon represents. I recently purchased Rana George's book, which for the most part I'm finding very comprehensive. However, her description of the Moon card seems to resemble a few meanings pertinent to a Tarot card, in as far as intuition, dreams, etc, etc. I'm a bit confused, wondering if these are traditional meanings, or ones that have been personally adopted. My apologies if this has been answered somewhere. I thought I read a post about the Moon but can't for the life of me find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joy Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 This is so interesting that you bring this up as I came across the meaning of the Moon being about intuition and unknown stuff. That sounded to me too very much like how the Moon is described in Tarot. Anyway this is how I read the Moon and it is by Andy B: Keywords: Work, honours, fame Adulation is the essence of the Moon card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malvina Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I prefer to think of the Moon in terms of the 10th place and the MC in astrology. It’s where we’re most visible, so naturally the Moon, reflecting solar light, shows our achievements, status and recognition. In his blog, Andy also said that as the Moon is orbiting the Earth, so do we find whatever this card is attached to fascinating and enchanting. These are our hobbies and interests. I find only one tarot meaning to be useful here - that is the lunar tides and irregularities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 It's mainly recognition, what you're known for. It isn't emotions, except in the sense that recognition can give a person a sense of satisfaction. It can also be evening (Stars are night.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bastetly Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, joy said: This is so interesting that you bring this up as I came across the meaning of the Moon being about intuition and unknown stuff. That sounded to me too very much like how the Moon is described in Tarot. Anyway this is how I read the Moon and it is by Andy B: Keywords: Work, honours, fame Adulation is the essence of the Moon card. I wish I could find it fast, but Andy sometimes updates his Essences and I believe the Moon is one of those cards: Yes, on my homemade (Andy's) flashcards, I updated its essence this year to Recognition, with adulation being part of that oc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadewa Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Rana's interpretation of dreams and intuition probably comes from her observation on the Moon symbol. I don't have a copy of her book nearby right now, but should I recall correctly, she mentioned how the Moon is associated to mystic things in her intro to this particular card. She does it differently compared to other authors like Andy, but still it comes from common sense regarding the symbol on the card, a interpretative method that sits well in the lenormand domain. However, Rana also stressed the adulation/recognition side of the card, which can both be seen in her keywords and example readings provided in her book. She does show to her readers that it's generally a very positive card. Personally I don't associate the Moon with intuition and dreams because I already get that kind of association with the Stars. However, I wouldn't say it is absolutely wrong to associate the Moon with a bit of mystical interpretations. Just note that even so you still need to consider "recognition" as a primary interpretation, and you may need to re-arrange the whole balance of your interpretative system. "Hidden things", on the other hands, seems to completely wander off the traditional trail to me. The Moon frequently means something is shown/within sight rather than secret/hidden away. Plus, we have the Book for secrets already, and that's kind of a universal agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 hours ago, joy said: This is so interesting that you bring this up as I came across the meaning of the Moon being about intuition and unknown stuff. That sounded to me too very much like how the Moon is described in Tarot. Anyway this is how I read the Moon and it is by Andy B: Keywords: Work, honours, fame Adulation is the essence of the Moon card. Yes, that's what I had read too. There doesn't seem to be much else assigned to it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 hours ago, malvina said: I prefer to think of the Moon in terms of the 10th place and the MC in astrology. It’s where we’re most visible, so naturally the Moon, reflecting solar light, shows our achievements, status and recognition. In his blog, Andy also said that as the Moon is orbiting the Earth, so do we find whatever this card is attached to fascinating and enchanting. These are our hobbies and interests. I find only one tarot meaning to be useful here - that is the lunar tides and irregularities. I know nothing about astrology and personally don't ascribe astrology meanings to cards. Where we're most visible I would have thought the sun, not the moon, so I can't quite get my head around that one. I didn't realise Andy had a blog. I'll have to try and find it. Hobbies and interests is another thing I wouldn't have initially ascribed to the Moon, unless it refers to creativity perhaps. Interesting ideas to ponder. Thanks malvina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, katrinka said: It's mainly recognition, what you're known for. It isn't emotions, except in the sense that recognition can give a person a sense of satisfaction. It can also be evening (Stars are night.) Now that's interesting katrinka. I was just reading Iris Treppner's meanings. She apparently ascribes emotions, feelings and even indisposition leading to depression to the Moon. Another reason for my confusion. I didn't realise there was a distinction between evening and night either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, Sadewa said: Rana's interpretation of dreams and intuition probably comes from her observation on the Moon symbol. I don't have a copy of her book nearby right now, but should I recall correctly, she mentioned how the Moon is associated to mystic things in her intro to this particular card. She does it differently compared to other authors like Andy, but still it comes from common sense regarding the symbol on the card, a interpretative method that sits well in the lenormand domain. However, Rana also stressed the adulation/recognition side of the card, which can both be seen in her keywords and example readings provided in her book. She does show to her readers that it's generally a very positive card. Personally I don't associate the Moon with intuition and dreams because I already get that kind of association with the Stars. However, I wouldn't say it is absolutely wrong to associate the Moon with a bit of mystical interpretations. Just note that even so you still need to consider "recognition" as a primary interpretation, and you may need to re-arrange the whole balance of your interpretative system. "Hidden things", on the other hands, seems to completely wander off the traditional trail to me. The Moon frequently means something is shown/within sight rather than secret/hidden away. Plus, we have the Book for secrets already, and that's kind of a universal agreement. Thanks Sadewa. Yes, Rana does seem to relate a fair amount of "mystic" stuff to the Moon. I wonder how much of that is from her background in the East. I agree "hidden things" is to do with the Book, definitely not the Moon like in Tarot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malvina Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Panda said: I know nothing about astrology and personally don't ascribe astrology meanings to cards. Neither do I. But I find this particular comparison to be useful for those who know something about astrology. 7 minutes ago, Panda said: Where we're most visible I would have thought the sun, not the moon, so I can't quite get my head around that one. I consider the Sun to be more related to the querent themselves. The warmth and success is related to them only. The clarity brought by the Sun helps with their own understanding of some matter. In contrast, the Moon reflects the light for all to see. 8 minutes ago, Panda said: I didn't realise Andy had a blog. I'll have to try and find it. The one I mentioned has sadly been closed. But “The Circlestead” is still running! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, malvina said: Neither do I. But I find this particular comparison to be useful for those who know something about astrology. I consider the Sun to be more related to the querent themselves. The warmth and success is related to them only. The clarity brought by the Sun helps with their own understanding of some matter. In contrast, the Moon reflects the light for all to see. The one I mentioned has sadly been closed. But “The Circlestead” is still running! Okay, fair enough. I got the impression you were an astrology buff! I can see your reasoning (sort of) with the Moon reflecting light for all to see. To be honest, it's all a bit complicated. I think I'm going to have to just decide on what meanings I feel are right and stick with them. Having said that, the reason I asked about the Moon in the first place was because it was one of the cards in my daily two card draw. I don't currently work, so it doesn't relate to that. Hence I was wondering what other meanings it has. I'll see how the day pans out and whether I can find relevance in the cards that were drawn. I might put them up under Readings later. Thanks for your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malvina Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Panda said: I got the impression you were an astrology buff! I actually am, haha. But I don’t mix astrology and cartomancy. 4 minutes ago, Panda said: Having said that, the reason I asked about the Moon in the first place was because it was one of the cards in my daily two card draw. It could be pointing to evening time or a waxing-and-waning situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, malvina said: I actually am, haha. But I don’t mix astrology and cartomancy. It could be pointing to evening time or a waxing-and-waning situation. Hahahaha! When you said "neither do I" I thought you were talking about knowing about astrology. Now I understand what you're saying. Yes, evening time could be relevant. Nothing has panned out as yet but the day is still young, hahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Panda said: Now that's interesting katrinka. I was just reading Iris Treppner's meanings. She apparently ascribes emotions, feelings and even indisposition leading to depression to the Moon. Iris gets a little new agey sometimes. The course is basically solid, but not without issues. 1 hour ago, Panda said: Yes, Rana does seem to relate a fair amount of "mystic" stuff to the Moon. I wonder how much of that is from her background in the East. I don't think of Beirut during the time Rana was growing up there as particularly mystic (though an "invisible means of support" is especially beneficial in times like that.) And before that, Beirut was just a regular modern city, albeit exceptionally beautiful: https://www.messynessychic.com/2016/07/13/beautiful-beirut-before-bombed-out-buildings-were-part-of-the-scenery/ Rana just loves loves her mystical stuff. It's her. 1 hour ago, malvina said: I consider the Sun to be more related to the querent themselves. The warmth and success is related to them only. The clarity brought by the Sun helps with their own understanding of some matter. In contrast, the Moon reflects the light for all to see. I don't quite see the logic of that. The sun is easily seen by all. I get "who" from context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malvina Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, katrinka said: I don't quite see the logic of that. The sun is easily seen by all. I didn’t mean that the Sun is invisible, but that it’s first and foremost a personal experience. If I see the Sun in a draw, I don’t say “others will see your success” but “you’ll experience success.” Similarly, the Stars can be seen by everyone, but their clarity and serenity apply specifically to the querent, everyone else is secondary. On the other hand, the Moon makes “the other” primary, the public comes to the foreground here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, katrinka said: I don't think of Beirut during the time Rana was growing up there as particularly mystic (though an "invisible means of support" is especially beneficial in times like that.) And before that, Beirut was just a regular modern city, albeit exceptionally beautiful: https://www.messynessychic.com/2016/07/13/beautiful-beirut-before-bombed-out-buildings-were-part-of-the-scenery/ Rana just loves loves her mystical stuff. It's her. I was thinking more regarding her ancestry - what was passed down to her. She mentions in her book that her family goes waaaaayyyyyy back into the mystic stuff. Beirut certainly wasn't a mystical place when she was there. Unless you count bombs having a mystical element! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Ah. Because the Moon is recognition. I still wouldn't lock the Sun and Stars into a purely personal experience - they might or might not be, that's all context. But you're correct that the Moon intrinsically involves other people. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Panda said: I was thinking more regarding her ancestry - what was passed down to her. She mentions in her book that her family goes waaaaayyyyyy back into the mystic stuff. Beirut certainly wasn't a mystical place when she was there. Unless you count bombs having a mystical element! Ah. Yes. That white dog that makes an appearance in her deck is kind of mystical. It wasn't her dog, yet it still showed up every day to escort and protect her, IIRC. Like the Buddhist concept of compassion with nonattachment, except it wasn't a meditation master or a Lama - it was a dog. There is nothing mystical about bombs themselves, but I think that in times of danger, people are more prone to having mystical experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, katrinka said: Ah. Yes. That white dog that makes an appearance in her deck is kind of mystical. It wasn't her dog, yet it still showed up every day to escort and protect her, IIRC. Like the Buddhist concept of compassion with nonattachment, except it wasn't a meditation master or a Lama - it was a dog. There is nothing mystical about bombs themselves, but I think that in times of danger, people are more prone to having mystical experiences. How very true katrinka. I have also noticed those who have suffered a great deal in life seem to ... no, I won't say. I don't want to upset anyone. Let's just say, life experience seems to play a role in those who are "gifted" in psychic matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 They can develop a heightened state of awareness, I agree. They become attuned to subtle cues that others would miss. It's a matter of survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selena Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Generally, the Moon offers some insight or perspective on how a situation or circumstances look to others. The moon reflects the light of the sun which we see waxing and waning just like public interest. For careers, it is the employment status and strength of candidacy. Does your resume standout and will you impress the panel? The Moon card card tell us. The Moon can indicate whether someone sees you as a “catch.” With the Sun you’re awesome but with the Mice, not so much. It differs to the Garden/Park in that it’s the seeker rather than the general public under review. Emotions are better under the Heart card and I would file metaphysical and psychic stuff under the Stars. Edited September 15, 2021 by selena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Yes. I do the same with the Stars, since they relate to astrology. So, other metaphysical subjects, too, by extension. And they're astronomy- so, science. And of course night and aspirations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sushib Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 2:36 PM, Panda said: I have decided the Moon is my "work" card, as well as indicating recognition and personal success. However, I am interested in what else the Moon represents. I recently purchased Rana George's book, which for the most part I'm finding very comprehensive. However, her description of the Moon card seems to resemble a few meanings pertinent to a Tarot card, in as far as intuition, dreams, etc, etc. I'm a bit confused, wondering if these are traditional meanings, or ones that have been personally adopted. My apologies if this has been answered somewhere. I thought I read a post about the Moon but can't for the life of me find it. Try reading Lisa Young Sutton’s book. It’s excellent and she gives the original meaning from the game of hope along with some other really good information. I have Rana’s book also but much prefer Lisa’s…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Rana's been reading Lenormand for a very long time. Decades. She's a competent reader. But I'd be very careful of Lisa Young Sutton. She took one of Toni Puhle's courses and immediately started doing youtube tutorials, and they're full of mistakes. She's only been using Lenormand for a short time. She's still a beginner. Edited November 25, 2021 by katrinka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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