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I'm interested in learning to read Kipper cards.  I've bought Musruck's cards and book -- I understand it's very basic but I prefer a book in hand to online lists.  I'm enjoying exploring them but it's clear to me that this set is not really what I want.

 

I've got Puhle's book on order.  Generally I like to read as much as possible about a topic and sort out what seems useful and reliable.  I may move to German sources & google translate but not yet.

 

I'm interested in finding a deck with more traditional images; I gather that Musruck simplified them.  But the decks that are readily available in the US are not doing much for me.  I see Fin de Siecle Kipper, Mystical Kipper, and Rainbow Kipper, and I'm just not loving them.  Really I just want the Original Kipperkarten deck.  Do y'all know of sources in the United States?

 

Thanks for any pointers.

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From @katrinka's Kipper Primer blog post from the past....

 

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As always, use a traditional deck for learning. The choices are easy, since as of this writing there are only five major ones – and that is enough. The most traditional are the Original Kipperkarten (shown here, published by ASS) and the Salish Kipper

 

The other 3 in the blog post have various changes.

 

Sadly these 2 decks seem to be out of print, the original one used to be on Amazon but now harder to get. I think that is the reason the Rainbow, Mystical and Fin de Siecle are on all the shops, they are still in print. The more traditional decks are hard to get and the English world doesn't really have the Kipper interest of the German world. That is why really Toni Puhle's book is one of the few English books. It's always been a problem for me getting Kippers or finding English resources on them.

 

Like @Wyrdkiss suggested, Etsy. Also Ebay and Abebooks, look up those Kipper decks, you might find a few left for sale but they are mostly out of print now 😞

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I've tried Etsy and Ebay and not had any luck.  I think perhaps I found a set -- just ordered this from a half price books in Texas.  It could turn out to be the book only despite the listing title: Wahrsagen mit den Kipperkarten. Buch und 36 Karten.
Vogel, Christine.  So keep your fingers crossed for me! 

 

Am I correct in thinking that the Musruck deck follows the traditional structure?

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On 8/9/2022 at 10:33 AM, Agnes said:

Am I correct in thinking that the Musruck deck follows the traditional structure?

Probably, but @katrinka would know best.  She also has a blog listed with her info where she sometimes talks about the kipper cards.  She does still read the forum from time to time.

 

I was also looking for a more traditional kipper deck a while ago and couldn't find anything.  I went to amazon.de (Amazon's German site) and only saw one deck but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for.  There weren't any sample images at the time to look at to be certain.

 

Good luck!

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Thank you. Can you tell me how to find Katrinka’s  blog? I am new to the forum and can’t seem to find individual profiles etc. 

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Hi, If you look on my post above, the word post links to her Kipper section.

 

About people selling decks on sites and book sites, sometimes they use the word books for the deck. It's worth contacting / messaging them to ask "is this a deck of cards?"  Often it is. They don't always know how to handle decks in the description to sell them 😀🤦‍♂️

 

 

 

 

SlightlyMagic
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I didn't think Fin de Siecle Kipper was for me until I got my hands on a deck and used them. Curiously my girlfriend who owns them thought the same thing initially but she's been using them regularly for a year or so and I'll reach for them once in a while.  If you can source a cheapish deck it may be worth taking a punt as for some reason and based on my in-depth study of two people it seems they don't sit right on a screen.

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Frustratingly, the Original Kipper by ASS is sold-out everywhere. I emailed them last week to ask it was going to be reprinted and it's due to come into stock shortly. 

 

I really enjoy the fin de siecle kipper and the rainbow kipper. 

LadyBug_1216
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I found the Original Kipper by ASS on Book Depository, and ordered it in February. I have not received it yet, but recently got notice that it's finally been shipped. 

I am in the US, and it is the German version. I also managed to pick up a copy of the Rainbow Kipper on Amazon, so I have something to study for now.

 

I know I am late to the conversation, but maybe this will help someone who is still looking for the Original Kipper Wahrsagekarten

 

 

 

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