Guest Night Shade Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=59669 by vision777 i notice when i do daily cards spreads like the one card a day thing if i get a bad card i will shuffle again until a 'nicer" card comes. i know deep down inside that should not be done but who would want the 10 of swords as a day card? or any other negative looking card? do other people do this when this happens to them and if there are people who don't approve of this how can one get over doing another reading just because a "negative card appears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Shade Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I've been guilty of this when reading for myself. If I'm asking a question that I want a positive answer or a "yes" answer to, I'll decide (i.e. lie to myself) that my mind must have been wandering while I was shuffling, or I misphrased the question, or something distracted me as I was cutting the cards, because of course that negative card can't be the true answer - it must be a mistake. Which is absolute nonsense as I well know, but sometimes I play along with this fallacy because I don't think I can handle a "no" or a negative truth. I think the way to get over this is to be ready for any outcome. Go into the reading knowing that the cards may not tell you what you want to hear, and steel yourself to accept the truth. If the cards give you a negative message, maybe do another reading asking how you can best handle the situation, or what you can do to make the situation better. If you really aren't able to bear getting a "bad" card, then you should probably put the cards away for the day. One more point - I never do this when I'm reading for other people. If I'm reading for a sitter, I feel I have an obligation to tell them the truth of what I see in the cards - but I do try to put as positive a spin on it as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn Celeste Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I've been guilty of this when reading for myself. :eek: This is one of the many reasons I don't read for myself. I tend to look for vulnerabilities and I go way too nuts with myself! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenrezi Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Yeah, sometimes I get scared to do a reading for myself...I just feel very vulnerable especially if the question seems very important to me at the time. Cuz I use the same prep each time and don't deviate. I guess I'm afraid what the cards might show me. When I first see the cards, it can kind of shock me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoughtful Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 If l feel that l have shuffled well for myself and a 'negative' card pops out, l know it does have a meaning for me. With a huge groan and a holding of breath l wait to see what transpires. As with life it is never as bad as l think it will be, there is always a positive side, or a lesson to be learnt. Bit like going to the dentist bad news then relief :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanga Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Lol. If I have a HUGE BURNING QUESTION - which is rare these days... I'll get someone else to read my cards. Mostly I use my cards for deconstruction of my emotional baggage, magick and ritual, and reading practice. The form of reading for myself that I might do - is "asking my quides for comments or advice" - somehow, if I approach it like this I find I'm less likely to see what I want to see etc. as some of you have described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 If l feel that l have shuffled well for myself and a 'negative' card pops out, l know it does have a meaning for me. With a huge groan and a holding of breath l wait to see what transpires. As with life it is never as bad as l think it will be, there is always a positive side, or a lesson to be learnt. Bit like going to the dentist bad news then relief :)) Like you I brace myself and deal with it, at least I am forewarned which does help mitigate the circumstances. So I keep the cards and work through it. Like you said, it is much like going to the dentist X-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest libra Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I don't really see any card as good or bad. All carry a strong and beautiful message, even the ones that some people find scary! I seem to always come back to describing it like a bad trip on psychedelics - it might not be the most fun, but the rough trips are the ones that actually allow myself to do that deep work, that bring up where I need to focus my healing. It's the same as when a person I dislike shows up in my life, usually what I dislike in them is something I'm jealous of. If I view them as selfish, well they might be, but my reaction tells me that I may be needing to take a page out of their book and put myself first sometimes. I judge in them what is lacking in myself. A "bad" card is actually an invitation to do the work like these situations ask, and so are actually very much in line with what I use tarot for. If I'm feeling fragile or low spoon enough that I don't think I can face that kind of work, I'll pull a card from a lovey-dicey supportive oracle deck instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrang123 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 No. If you can't deal with the energy of ANY day, good or bad, you probably should never, ever read for yourself. There is an amazing lesson in taking the good with the bad. Let the card stand. Then maybe you can see it in all its complexities. ;) With Love, Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnomalyTempest Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 We all know that there are going to be good days and days that are maybe not so good. Maybe if you look at like a little head's up from your cards it could help. Consider it like those warnings on days when you get to work and a co-worker tells you the boss is on a rampage. It's nice to know about the mood so we can plan a response as opposed to just react to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 NO. What for ? No one card is "good" or "bad" anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggydoll Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I tend to not do predictive readings for myself. My own readings are mostly centered around personal development/exploration. But I do use cards to channel messages, so those can be predictive at times. I just think that after reading my own (and other people’s) cards for over two decades there really are no cards that I haven’t gotten used to seeing. I’ve also seen them in so many different circumstances/contexts so that helps to keep things in perspective. But I am sure that I have re-dealt my cards at some points in my tarot journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticMonkey Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 No I don't do this. I do sometimes doubt myself when I start to lay out the cards; whether I shuffled them enough, that kind of thing but then I read the cards as is otherwise I'll learn nothing. It's a bit like asking your friend for advice and then sticking your fingers in your ears while they are speaking. Don't ask the question if you are only prepared to accept one answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I refuse to do this. To me, that's no different from the toxic positivity of "love and light only" mentalities. You have to take the dark with the light. That's how life works. I think the best way to overcome this is to get to know the "negative" cards in a deck much better. 10 of Swords? Might seem scary, but it's also an ending to move into a new cycle. Devil card? This can be avoided by paying more attention to your choices so you don't fall into the same pitfalls (or who knows, maybe you're getting laid tonight 😂) Tower card? Prepare yourself and use this time to make a new foundation. Look at your past steps and see where you can do better. Look for ways that you can use these cards to your advantage or to prepare for things to come. Negative cards, to me, are just places where people need improvement. The pathway to healing and progress isn't always a smooth transition. Sometimes you have to go deep in the soul, do some serious rearranging, or look at hardship as a way to grow as a person. It might suck for a bit, but the important thing to remember is that you're going to be able to move forward and be more well off than you were before if you heed the card's advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Forewarned is forearmed. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongjasmine Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I think one should accept a bad card, as much as a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 If you get bad cards, STOP. That's your reading. If it's a daily, of course, you can ramp down the interpretation. In most cases it will be an overheated motor rather than a nuclear blast, or ant bites rather than cancer! But don't push the cards to say what you want them to. It's better to keep them honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire cat pickles Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 This. Who said "there are no bad cards only bad readers"? And that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barleywine Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 This is the driver behind the idea of "clarifiers;" just keep piling on layers until you get something that satisfies you. A better idea is to think more deeply about the significance of an apparently negative card within the context of the reading. I know it's repetitive of me, but I keep going back to James Ricklef's advice: "Let them simmer in your consciousness. They will eventually make sense; they always do." I once did a whole series of blog posts on the "Swords as Opportunity" because as a group they can be so discouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggydoll Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, fire cat pickles said: This. Who said "there are no bad cards only bad readers"? And that. 😆😆😆 Did someone actually say that? If not, hurry and claim it as yours 😁 1 hour ago, Barleywine said: This is the driver behind the idea of "clarifiers;" just keep piling on layers until you get something that satisfies you. A better idea is to think more deeply about the significance of an apparently negative card within the context of the reading. I know it's repetitive of me, but I keep going back to James Ricklef's advice: "Let them simmer in your consciousness. They will eventually make sense; they always do." I once did a whole series of blog posts on the "Swords as Opportunity" because as a group they can be so discouraging. Oh yes. I think clarifiers only gets in the way and hinders a person from becoming a proficient reader. They are unnecessary at best, but confusing and counterproductive at worst. And what a great idea for a blog post series! I am quite accustomed to swords energy (being a double Gemini and all that 😎) so I tend to not get worked up when they are featured in my readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire cat pickles Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Raggydoll said: Did someone actually say that? If not, hurry and claim it as yours I know Dan Pelletier said it but I'm not sure if he originated it... (Daaan, where are you???) Edited August 18, 2019 by fire cat pickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Raggydoll said: 😆😆😆 Did someone actually say that? If not, hurry and claim it as yours 😁 I'm reminded of the bumper sticker "There are no bad dogs, just bad owners." I used to see a lot of those in Lynn, Mass in the 90's. It was all coming from Barrett's Bull Pen - the gold standard of Pit Bull ownership. http://www.barrettsbullpen.com/ Maybe Dan was the first to apply it to cards, but the trope has been around for a good while. Maybe before Barrett's, IDK. 4 hours ago, Raggydoll said: Oh yes. I think clarifiers only gets in the way and hinders a person from becoming a proficient reader. They are unnecessary at best, but confusing and counterproductive at worst. . Amen to that. If someone doesn't understand what's already on the table, more cards (and complexity) isn't going to clear that up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natural Mystic Guide Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 It could be fun to see card of the day readings as analogous to life. We cannot change what life may dish out to us. What we can change is our response. In my world, there are no 'bad' cards. My heart does not leap, my brain does not cringe when I see a Ten of Swords or a Major Arcana Tower. All cards are good cards. I find it easy to put a very positive spin on every single card in the deck. That being said, I do use reversals (unless I am doing elemental readings -- then I see earth and water; fire and air as well aspected.) So in my Tarot world, a reversed card, or a not well aspected card represents a lesson or a challenge. Lessons and challenges are great because they are opportunities for growth. So from that perspective, all cards are good and there is no reason to move further along in the deck until a 'good' card appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV86 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 As a new tarot card reader, I'm guilty of repeatedly asking the same question, just in a different way, when I get a pull that I don't necessarily like. Ultimately, it never really changes. It just gives me more and more clarification on the subject, but the overall answer remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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