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Are you self-isolating ? Are you being forced to work from home ? Are you missing your colleagues ? Your boss ? (yeah RIGHT...)

 

Whatever - come here and vent, tell silly stories and make coffee. Think of this thread as the tarot watercooler. (Or if your life is like my working life was - the washroom. All the best goss was in there...)

 

Don't be lonely. Have a cookie.

 

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Purplemystic

Hi there. Not quite at that point yet. I don't like the idea of isolating. I suppose if it's needed then so be it. I'll still be surrounded by my lovely Tarot decks. I'll use the time for bonding with them. Reading too. ☺

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Hubby has been told to work from home until they say otherwise.  He's quite looking forward to it actually although we need to set him up a little work space!

 

I'm feeling a bit anxious over the virus because all my gigs for the next 2 weeks have been cancelled and if it gets worse I can see me not doing gigs for a while 😞

 

I know people are worse affected though and my heart goes out to anyone suffering because of this ❤️

 

But here, I'll cheer you up again with something cute:

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I spent my lifetime working with other people around me, too many. So in retirement I'm so happy to be a loner. 

That said, I'm sick with worry about all the people who worked in jobs like I had. Saying work from home to a hairdresser, waitress, secretary, crop worker, clerk...stay home and starve? Stay home and miss the car and house payment? Some of the ones giving all this great advice live in lala land. my vent for the morning. 

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This is such a great idea for a thread! Thank you for starting this 🙂

 

Being suddenly stuck at home is definitely difficult to adapt to. Sure we might have more time to catch up with friends and family on the phone and whatnot, but with COVID impacting every corner of our life, we are finding it difficult to talk about anything but that. One thing my sister and I were talking about doing is coming up with daily goals or tasks that we can do at home that are fun, engaging, and gives us something else to talk about. We talked about doing push-up or pull-up challenges. I've also thought about doing creative writing prompts. One thing I have always liked is using tarot as a part of creative writing (inspiring ideas for plots, characters, etc), however I have never really had the time to do it. Perhaps my time to really explore this is coming up!

 

15 minutes ago, AJ-ish/Sharyn said:

I spent my lifetime working with other people around me, too many. So in retirement I'm so happy to be a loner. 

That said, I'm sick with worry about all the people who worked in jobs like I had. Saying work from home to a hairdresser, waitress, secretary, crop worker, clerk...stay home and starve? Stay home and miss the car and house payment? Some of the ones giving all this great advice live in lala land. my vent for the morning. 

I feel exactly the same way. I am not retired, but I am quite privileged that my work place is being so accommodating and flexible. If it completely shuts down, I will still get paid. However, I am so anxious thinking of the impact this is having on my friends, family, and millions of other people in this world. It's awful.

 

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It is horrible for those workers - but to be blunt - it beats getting infected. It also helps slow/stop the rate of infection - which will in the end mean they can get back to work faster.

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My household is very lucky to have the option to work from home, or even avoid public transportation. Not everyone can, so I'm very grateful that I'm in a position to help slow the spread of the virus. I'm not concerned for my health, mostly for those in the high risk category and the strain it will put on the health system at peak infection and how it will impact the people who rely on it the most. I can live with a little inconvenience, even if it has hurt my business considerably and probably will continue to for a while. I'm so appreciative that no one I know personally is at high risk for complications from covid-19. It will be tough, but we'll get past this and eventually recover financially. But I do wish people would stop the hysterical grocery buying.

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I won’t feel particularly lonely on my side because I tend to have a solitary temperament and don’t socialize too much in general. Otherwise I have interesting hobbies to keep busy.

But yes, this period will accentuate  everything I guess, because like a lot of people I will have to organize myself a bit differently.

 

What bothers me is anxiety around this virus. I hope I won’t become paranoid!

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Marigold

I still don't see how this virus is more dangerous than a normal flu. There's something I'm not getting. They're behaving as if it's Ebola or the Plague. I'm fed up with the hysteria. Every year people die of flu. We don't put whole countries in lock down for this.

 

I think it's a huge exercice for the Big Pandemic that we know will come one day and that everyone is waiting for. To see what works and what doesn't. The hysteria and panic doesn't make sense. If one takes into account all the people who are not diagnosed but have had the virus - and even asymptomatic as they say many people are - then the death rate is certainly not higher than a normal seasonal flu. 

 

Schools are closed for 7 weeks in Switzerland. We heard about it yesterday. But parents are still expected to go to work. They've closed all the museums, cinemas, swimming pools and more. Even the botanical gardens are closed. I don't see how one can get infected in a botanical garden. For the moment we can go out as much as we want - just asked to take some precautions in public transport and wash our hands well. And to take good care of old people. But one should always take care of old people. 

 

God, I hope they don't put the country on lock down like they may in Spain soon and prevent people from going out except for groceries. But I suppose if one goes out for a walk at midnight, no-one will mind. Like down at the lake. There's no-one to infect down at the lake - just the ducks and swans. 

 

I think it's ridiculous all this hullabaloo. People will be dying of poverty - as many will have lost their livelihoods. There are already companies that have gone bankrupt. They economic consequences will be much greater than some unfortunate, and tragic of course, deaths. But when people die each year of flu, the newspapers don't even mention it. 

 

I'll be taking care a lot of my granddaughter during this time as she can't go to school. And will also offer to take care of other kids if their parents are in an impossible situation. But I'm pissed off as hell with the hysteria. 

 

Corona viruses are not new. Even some of our colds are of the corona type. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This one is at least ten times more likely to cause death than regular flu. It isn't a flu virus. And it spreads FAR more easily than flu, because no-one has any kind of immunity. It's NEW.

 

YES don't panic - I am big on that. And  panic buying is lunatic - every store I have been in says they get full, regular deliveries every single day and people just clear the shelves. That's stupid. They will still deliver - but you won't have to touch the sign for pads, for instance- it has apparently already been transmitted through one of those.

 

But do take it  seriously, Marigold. If you are on lock down - do the right thing. Don't panic - but DON'T think it isn't serious  - it's on a much higher plane than flu, colds etc. Complacency might kill you. WHO doesn't declare a pandemic for no reason.

 

How you can get infected in a botanical garden, by the way - well, one way is by holding on to a railing, for instance. The virus survives >12 hours on metal. People have caught it from holding the poles in subway trains.

 

The panic is over the top - panic is never good. But "ordinary" flu has never spread like this. 

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On a more different note than the above. PornHub is offering free access to everyone in Italy for the duration of the crises. They should perhaps start first by removing the rape and sexual abuse videos and revenge porn on their website. (I don't watch porn - not interested in the least - but I read the newspapers so I know all about their stupid philanthropic offer and all about pornhub.)

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5 minutes ago, Little Fang said:

Maybe we should keep chat about porn off of this forum? 😊 

Yeah. I do have a petition against that site, if anyone would like a link to sign. I will only supply it by PM, though.

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Marigold
Just now, Little Fang said:

Maybe we should keep chat about porn off of this forum? 😊 

That's what I thought when I read the Guardian this morning. I thought heck-- corona virus AND porn ? Can't they give us a break???

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I'm on the autism spectrum so being alone (not lonely) except for my partner is 90% of my life. I socialize online mostly.

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Covid-19 is a SARS virus. It stands for Severe Acute Respiratory syndrome. It is not like the flu. Corona can penetrate deep in the lungs and cause pneumonia and respiratory problems within a day from first symptoms. For 80 percent of the infected, this will not be the case. But if you are already sick and if you are older then you are at risk. There is no immunity since this is a new mutation. And as of now, we only have antiviral treatments designed for Ebola to try and combat it with, and it has not yet been approved so it’s on special license and hard to get hold of. I agree that no one should panic, but it’s no laughing matter. 

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Marigold
7 minutes ago, gregory said:

 

But do take it  seriously, Marigold. If you are on lock down - do the right thing. Don't panic - but DON'T think it isn't serious  - it's on a much higher plane than flu, colds etc. Complacency might kill you. WHO doesn't declare a pandemic for no reason.

 

How you can get infected in a botanical garden, by the way - well, one way is by holding on to a railing, for instance. The virus survives >12 hours on metal. People have caught it from holding the poles in subway trains.

 

The panic is over the top - panic is never good. But "ordinary" flu has never spread like this. 

I do take it seriously Gregory, And listen to all they have told us now. Wash my hands singing happy birthday twice and avoid public transport at peak hours and stuff. But people are still going to work - taking trains and buses - so closing a botanical garden makes no sense. There are about 10 people at a time in those gardens spread all over the place. If they're letting people go to work and travel and even go to restaurants (no more than 50 people at a time), then railings at a botanical garden should be the least of their worries. 

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A lot of the measures make little sense, but that's because the people responsible don't know what to do and then do silly things along with the useful stuff.

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Unfortunately I won't be lonely since I fly again tomorrow. I hear flight loads are down though, but they still make us do drink service and I wish they'd cancel that. 

I'll be taking every precaution, as I have older family, a brother with severe asthma, and asthma myself. I was hospitalized with double pneumonia as a little kid so I'm anxious. 

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1 minute ago, Marigold said:

I do take it seriously Gregory, And listen to all they have told us now. Wash my hands singing happy birthday twice and avoid public transport at peak hours and stuff. But people are still going to work - taking trains and buses - so closing a botanical garden makes no sense. There are about 10 people at a time in those gardens spread all over the place. If they're letting people go to work and travel and even go to restaurants (no more than 50 people at a time), then railings at a botanical garden should be the least of their worries. 

Those privileges may not last long. But a blanket closure on public spaces is much easier to manage than trying to distinguish between the ones that might be OK and the ones that aren't.

 

We expect my choir rehearsals to be stopped shortly - the concert has already been postponed from May to November.

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1 hour ago, AJ-ish/Sharyn said:

That said, I'm sick with worry about all the people who worked in jobs like I had. Saying work from home to a hairdresser, waitress, secretary, crop worker, clerk...stay home and starve? Stay home and miss the car and house payment? Some of the ones giving all this great advice live in lala land. my vent for the morning. 

This.
I'm in the US and everything is going full tilt, except for things like SXSW. At my job we manufacture computer automotive parts and we certainly don't have the equipment to do that from home.

There's no testing, and someone from City Hall posted on Next Door that no cases have been identified in the city or county. Several of us pointed out that there was no testing available, so saying that "no cases have been identified" doesn't mean there aren't any. It's just weasel words for "Shut up and go to work", or maybe "Shut up and vote Trump."

I wouldn't be lonely at all staying in for a few weeks. I've got internet and phone and dogs. But in order to have a place to stay inside of, I have to work. I don't trust that I'd have enough income from readings. Business is usually good when people are worried, but in this situation with people hoarding toilet paper and whatnot, I suspect that most don't want to spend.

But we aren't the only ones who don't have testing https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/us/coronavirus-testing-problems-nationwide-invs/index.html

So it's just a question of WHEN we get it, not IF. I'm sure it's around. Quite a few people have been out sick. 

Most people who get it DON'T die. I'm not particularly worried about that. I'm just not looking forward to being that sick. And I'm not sure what the fallout from all this will be like. 

And it WILL be lethal for some. I thought this was particularly horrible (don't click if you're especially sensitive - I include it only because this kind of thing is where the trajectory leads. All of this has been horribly, horribly mishandled.) https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/italian-actor-luca-franzese-pleads-for-help-in-video-showing-dead-sister/
 

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Marigold

On a brighter note (I'm sorry for ranting - but I had to get it out), if Switzerland does go into lock down which I doubt it will, I've started writing a book on the Tarot of Marseilles so I'd have a lot of time to work on it. Except when I'm not looking after my granddaughter which will still need to be done at times in spite of the lock down. It's not a how-to-read the TdM, or a manual - but it'll still have some practical stuff in it. It's quite a different book than is what on the market. It may appeal more to a francophone TdM crowd, but I've decided to write it in English as there aren't that many books on the TdM in English. It'll have between 25 and 28 chapters I think. But maybe more. I've written 5 already. Am having a whale of a time!!! 

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