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On 5/16/2021 at 12:16 PM, gregory said:

Actually I'm wrong; it's Germany that has blocked us. But if France has any sense they will do too.

…and « we » heard you since starting with next monday there will be a required quarantine for travellers from the UK.

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Yeah - and my BiL will have to fill out (and PAY FOR) all sorts of forms to allow us to visit ANYWAY (Brexit.)

 

Luckily he is disgustingly rich, so that won't bother him, but ARRGGHH Brexit ! (I have every sympathy with your locking us out over covid.)

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Mi-Shell

I did not really realize how lonely and down I had gotten in these last 15 months of covid isolation. 

Here in Ontario the "stay at home order" ended on June 2 - although we are still in the most restricted zone / category with almost nothing open. 

BUT! The local Farmer's Market was allowed to open up- with the restriction, that all vendors setting up have to have a sturdy rope around all your products and tables 6 feet away!

So customers can not come closer than 6 feet to your table - !! ?? !! All have to wear masks and only 1 person pre family allowed on the Market grounds.

We went to set up our jewellery booth, knowing full well, that nobody could even come close enough to out closed up glass show cases to even see, what we have to sell. But we just wanted to be away from the homestead for a day and at least "see" a few other people and yell our hellos and wave....

Well, we were in for a surprise:

Lots of people were eager to have an excuse to get out as well and soon the Market was packed!

Nobody heeded the health unit's order of 1 person per family... Most wore masks.

And then the yelling started:

"Do you have fresh rhubarb?"

"How much is the maple syrup?"

"Where is the lady with the hand made dog treats?"

 "Mi-Shell, I need a new Tree of Life pendant, a Sterling Silver anklet and Turquoise earrings!" 

"Peter can you fix my pin?"

All vendors strained against all the restrictions to serve their eager customers, visa cards flew through 6 feet of thin air forth and back, were searched for in the grass or presented on loooooooong canoe paddles...

Covid stories and family news was exchanged.

Some people just stayed around to hear those or chat.

At 2.00 we were all hoarse, but had a big grin on our faces.....

I was almost giddy with excitement.

I am such a people person and only seeing others via screen and shaky wifi connection had gnawed a hole into my soul and my mood.

 

Yesterday was our 2nd Market day. Same thing with 2X the participants .... and twice the heat...

Next week we will be in phase 1 of re-opening and the ropes can come down to 2 feet away  🙂

 

 

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We had our first IRL choir rehearsal since March 2020. In the bleachers at a rugby club, socially distanced. It was lovely - but still socially distanced. And absolutely draining form the sheer unfamiliarity of it.

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This morning I'm going to my 2nd Pfizer. After that I'll have a sort of armor against the Covid?

I heard that in Israel an important percentage of those who contracted the Covid (the Indian variant) have been vaccinated (mainly with Pfizer). This story isn't over, it's not to play the prophet of evil omen.

Okay so the good news is that I probably won't have second side effects (since for the first injection I hadn't them), after that who knows! I still wear a mask in any case.

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Mi-Shell

Out here in Canada land, we are vaccine hunting.

We got Pfizer shots in late April, but now they only have Moderna available.

Some say it is OK to mix, others caution, that one would get more different antibodies BUT would not have the very high threshold of 95% safety - just around 78%

So - what to do???

 

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16 minutes ago, Mi-Shell said:

Out here in Canada land, we are vaccine hunting.

We got Pfizer shots in late April, but now they only have Moderna available.

Some say it is OK to mix, others caution, that one would get more different antibodies BUT would not have the very high threshold of 95% safety - just around 78%

So - what to do???

This morning the nurse asked me if I wanted Pfizer or Moderna (they had both), so it's okay to mix.

Our minister for health here had his first shot with Astrazeneca but his second was Moderna.

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Mi-Shell

It looks like that next Saturday we will be Vaccine tourists:

We managed to snag an appointment in Thessalon!

4 hr 50 min (452.4 km) via Trans-Canada Hwy/ON-69 and Trans-Canada Hwy/Hwy 17

 

Is it worth the drive?

You bet, our other available appointments were either August 12 in a town only 100 km away - 

or on July 22 in another town 100km in the other direction......

But with the Thessalon trip our immunity will already be in effect on July22, soo - - !

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I am clearly unimpressed with Australian leadership during the Plague.

 

Initially in the very beginning, when the focus was on China and cruise ships, our leadership very sensibly slammed the community into lockdown and quarrantined everyone returning from overseas at home - which included a couple I'm very fond of, about Gergory-ish in age and culture, who had only just returned from New Zealand, where they were one hour away from being caught up in the fatal pyroclastic explosion of White Island's volcano, where dozens died. Traumatised from that, they came home (on a cruise ship) and were told not to leave their house. Can you even imagine ...

 

Their house was not well-stocked with groceries. So Miss J texted me a list of foods, and I broke lockdown to go shopping: fruit and veg, bread products, dead cow, more fruit and veg from a different place. When I finished, I texted her how much I'd spent and how long I thought I'd be to the house, and when I got there, there was an envelope on the front door stuffed with cash. I unloaded, leaving everything at the same door, and backed up to the street. Then they came out on their balcony and we had a shouted conversation that was just full of love and appreciation. Mr F has a great, booming voice - he could probably have been heard halfway across the continent! They were my only Hugging Friends ... and I haven't hugged them since. Over their fourteen days, I and another friend did one or two more shops for them. Well ... she'd text "apples" and you'd have no idea whether she wanted two or twenty! I got them four apples, which was clearly inadequate, but she never learnt to indicate quantities. 🙂

 

So they were isolated only a day or two after realising they nearly died. And life went on. In the area in which I was living at the time, life really went on. Lots of businesses were closed, some strange ones were open (you could get a haircut, for some reason, but not get your nails tended, and neglected acrylic-covered nails are painful whilst neglected hair hardly hurts at all). But traffic on the roads didn't halt! People drove everywhere, which meant they weren't home. Once I had to make an (approved purpose) trip to a nearby town, Newcastle (or as I like to call it (Newcastle-on-Hunter, to differentiate it from Newcastle-on-Tyne), and Novocastrians are obviously more compliant with the law than residents of the Central Coast - the streets were utterly deserted, and I got my stuff done with a minimum of fuss.

 

The months rolled by, stuff happened, restrictions were reduced. Darling Scotty, preferable to Turnbull only because he's an idiot-in-a-suit rather than an evil, poisonous snake-in-a-suit, decided to rule for popularity rather than safety. Restrictions lifted everywhere, little outbreaks flared. He decided to corner the market in vaccines when the researchers finally got them together, and ordered shirtloads. I am classified as stage two of vaccine rollout - I should have been done months and months ago. I'm not done. Nor are the emergency workers and medical workers who were in Stage One. Yet celebrities and politicians have had their jabs, as have low-risk healthy young men in millionaire-schools. And while We still cannot get our own shots, Scotty, in his infinite wisdom, knowing that he over-ordered, has been sending planes-ful of vaccines to sundry Pacific Island Nations, while we wait here, desperate for our shots and unable to get them. I am unimpressed with Australian leadership.

 

My plan to retire here in 2022 was brought forward by Covid: my demented mother considerately died, leaving me a third of her money enabling me to do exactly that with minimum pain. 

 

I moved on the first Monday after New Year's Day, so I've been here half a year. I had no pre-existing friends in this town. The last six months have all been about finding where the shops and the fortnightly farmer's markets are, and renovating the house. I also joined a local writer's group. Aside from shopping for necessities (luxuries arrive on my doorstep by magic), going to the writer's group once a fortnight and going to the markets once a fortnight if it's not rained out, I stay at home anyway, so when they slammed new restrictions a month or so ago to try and curb a local outbreak, my lifestyle was already in accordance with it! The new restrictions made no difference at all to me.

 

Which brings me back to the original title of this thread: mental health. I'm living an isolated lifestyle since covid, even more so since moving. I've had, effectively, seven months of my own company. And ... I'm ... just ... LOVING IT! I cannot TELL you how much this suits me! I get to exchange thoughts with people all over the place by using slightly bothered electrons, but I don't have to put up with them and they don't have to put up with me, and I don't feel swamped by people at all - can't even remember when I last felt swamped by people, and it used to be a constant misery in my life, being swamped by people.

 

I am absolutely thriving.

 

Covid is horrible on a community level, but covid-style restrictions are PERFECT for me. I love this life!

 

(Am I weird?)

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Of course you are weird - but I totally get you. I am fine with not going out that much too - and met a friend yesterday who said she had suddenly realised (when my text arrived saying I was in town getting groceries, want a coffee ?) that she had forgotten how to socialise. I'm like that a lot of the time anyway. But I DO regret the restrictions on amateur choirs. That bites.

 

But I do mind when I'm not ALLOWED to see my daughter and my grandchildren, for instance.

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10 hours ago, Nisaba said:

I am clearly unimpressed with Australian leadership during the Plague.

I think there are very very few politicians/leaderships who got it right really. But let's stay away from politics.

 

I found during the first lockdown for us last year, 3 months no contact apart from online and the OH, that I also did really enjoy the solitude. But I do have to say that only once I got back to normal work in June last year, that I actually noticed just how utterly horrendous it was not being able to have anybody to chat to. I've never considered myself a social person, but thinking back to it, it was torture, and I consider myself lucky to be able to be with other people, albeit with 2m distance between us and the facemask on at all times. 

 

11 hours ago, Nisaba said:

(Am I weird?)

Nah, I don't think so. But don't lock yourself away too much (which you aren't doing anyway with online activities) 🙂  - I think Covid19 can screw up a human's body dramatically, but everything that came with it can screw up our minds just as bad. 

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On 7/22/2021 at 8:27 PM, gregory said:

Of course you are weird - but I totally get you. [/quote]

 

<preens> Thank you.

 

[quote]... and met a friend yesterday who said she had suddenly realised (when my text arrived saying I was in town getting groceries, want a coffee ?) that she had forgotten how to socialise.[/quote]

 

Yeah.

 

[quote] But I DO regret the restrictions on amateur choirs. That bites.

 

But I do mind when I'm not ALLOWED to see my daughter and my grandchildren, for instance.

Yeah, I understand that. I'm badly missing karaoke (I'm a terrible choir member, and I never like their repertoires) And I haven't seen my daughter since the Summer of Fire, just before Covid rocked into town. And I only saw her then for lunch, because she and the unit of soldiers she was leading who had been sent to help with bushfire fighting and community assistance were on their way from one area to another, and she grabbed an hour. 

 

She told me some hair-raising stories about the fires that never made it into  the media.

 

Then Covid arrived just as the fires started easing off, and she and her soldiers were sent to Melbourne when they kept having uncontrollable outbreaks, to add some muscle to hotel quarrantine, as people were flagrantly disobeying it. They figured that soldiers with guns camped in the hotel corridors might dissuade escape attempts. Our only contact then was by phone.

 

I did drive up to her house a couple of months ago, but I didn't get to see her. I went because both she and her partner were working away in different directions, and there was a week when they didn't have care sorted for the animals, and like me, she regarded boarding kennels as prison cells and wanted them at home. So I drove nine and a half hours, pet-sat, visited my Queensland friends, drove nine and a half hours home again ... and then the borders slammed shut. If I'd left a day later I would have been trapped. I still wouldn't have seen *her*, but I would have seen a lot of her partner. 

 

Edited to add: okay, so that didn't work. How do people cut up quotes in this software?

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@Nisaba

In the quote you are - quoting - put your cursor at the place you want to start responding and hit enter (or return) a few times; then if necessary (sometimes in mid-para, for instance, it seems not to be automatic), go back to where you want to type, enter again and the split happens.

 

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17 hours ago, gregory said:

@Nisaba

In the quote you are - quoting - put your cursor at the place you want to start responding and hit enter (or return) a few times; then if necessary (sometimes in mid-para, for instance, it seems not to be automatic), go back to where you want to type, enter again and the split happens.

 

<admiring look> For a demon, you are remarkably helpful. Let me try that. 

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17 hours ago, gregory said:

@Nisaba

In the quote you are - quoting - put your cursor at the place you want to start responding and hit enter (or return) a few times;

 

Let's see ...

 

 

 

 

 

then if necessary (sometimes in mid-para, for instance, it seems not to be automatic), go back to where you want to type, enter again and the split happens.

 

Um ...

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Dubbo - my little town - has been locked down for a week and a half. The whole of the state, too, as opposed to just the major metropolitan areas, which have been locked down since June.

 

Dubbo used to be Negative Covid Central - not a single case. 

 

Then day one: one case. Day 2: four cases. Day three: twenty-nine cases and statewide hard-lockdown. Thank goodness I had groceries in hand! Then sixty cases, 94 cases, 117 cases. In the first week. In a town free of the disease and with a (largely) considerate population. It's been a week and a half. I haven't dared look at the figures recently. Bearing in mind the town has less than 40,000 humans in it, that's quite a spike.

 

Our state premier, Miss Gladys, seems to have complete amnesia about the fact that when Victoria was showing similar numbers, she bagged them mercilessly. Now it's her state, she's being much more forgiving of herself. And Danny-Boy, premier of Victoria, when commenting on our cases, seems to be gentlemanly enough to have selective amnesia also, and not take revenge on Miss Gladys. I like his style*.

 

The thing is, I have a garden to plant and - currently - food to eat. I have internet. The fact that we're in lockdown has almost escaped my attention.  But yesterday I spent three or four hours feeling a quite unaccustomed and unfamiliar emotion. It think it was hovering between sadness and loneliness, both alien to me and completely shocking. It wasn't helped by the news out of Afghanistan, either.  It's lifted now, of course. However, I really, really don't want it returning.

 

 

 

 

*That's not political content! That is a personal assessment of personal comments made by two individuals. What they do for jobs is beside the point, except that it makes their comments known to a larger proportion of the population than mine are. Nowhere did I mention political parties. They may well even be in the same political party.

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katrinka

Ouch.
We could use some of that lockdown. It's all business-as-usual here and the governor refuses to even issue a mask mandate. This is the same guy who was letting people freeze to death last winter when the power grid went down. He's begging the feds for five more morgue trailers, though. And he gets tested every day and recently came up positive, He's fully vaxxed and getting Regeneron, so he's not going anywhere. But it does show that he's aware this is serious. All of this points to bad character and a serious lack of ethics, like the people Nissy mentioned, but worse, I think. Not politics.

NONE of this should be political. It's a VIRUS.

My job was doing OK with maybe 3 or 4 cases at any given time. Then they relaxed the rules and said vaxxed people didn't have to wear a mask. (I don't know why. Vaxxed people can still get it, we can still spread it. We just won't die from it.) Then Delta hit. Now we're at 30 - 40 cases. At least they made masks mandatory for everybody again. That's more than I can say for the governor,

 

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