WizardintheWoods Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 @reall this last post of yours is a very attractive deck. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reall Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 You are welcome! it's my fav so far!🥰 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decan Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 The Bohemian cards which were due to be published this year seem late. At Baba studio they don't speak much about their deck lately (they likely prioritize other projects), and I took a look at Berti's Etsy shop and his 2 decks which seemed to be Bohemian cards (catalog 2021) aren't released yet. I think I'll stay with my Zigeuner Wahrsagekarten, it is nice, and I have too the Hungarian version (Cigany Kartya), what else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrinka Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Yes, the site still says pre-orders for the Baba decks will open in 2021. There isn't much left of the year, it could be a bit behind schedule. https://baba-store.com/blogs/news-thoughts-ideas-the-bababarock-blog/162779 I haven't heard a peep out of Berti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reall Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 @Decan Karen mentioned these may be available next year as I presume priority is current VR & considering all shipping & all other delays hat down to everyone who manage to deliver Anything in these crazy times!:) personally i think selfpublishing is great challenge and effort & totally wort waiting for bit longer!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 5/16/2020 at 7:43 AM, Decan said: Hi guys, I open this thread on the Gypsy Cards (Zigeuner Wahrsagekarten) because I decided to study them a bit (it was a temptation for a while!) There is another deck named "Gypsy cards" by Lo Scarabeo but it is actually a version of the Sibilla Italiana, not this one. This one is a 36 cards deck, I don't know its history but it developed in central Europe where it seems still widely used. It is not a Lenormand! Below a pic of the whole deck (in this version, because it doesn't seem the only version for this deck!). Baba studio is working on a version of this deck, so people will be more interested in this deck/system in the future I think. Do you have an ISBN for this? I ask because I can not find it anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielJUK Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 @Sar have a read through some of the posts on the first page, @reall goes through many different decks of this deck type and the pros / cons of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavianhermit Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It seems like this particular cartomantic tradition evolved from a nameless 36 card fortune telling deck printed by Industrie Comptoir in Leipzig c. 1818, originally including German suite marks. The 32 card deck is an abbreviation, the 52 card deck an extension. https://www.wopc.co.uk/tarot/cartomancy-oracle-and-divination-cards/austrian-cartomancy-decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhilleus Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/4/2024 at 3:27 AM, Sar said: Do you have an ISBN for this? I ask because I can not find it anywhere. For the Piatnik green box with Cupid that you quoted, the available ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 seem to be 3898756092 and 978-3898756099, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Akhilleus said: For the Piatnik green box with Cupid that you quoted, the available ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 seem to be 3898756092 and 978-3898756099, respectively. Ahh, thank you for answering my question so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhilleus Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 You're welcome, and may you find your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavianhermit Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 5/17/2020 at 7:15 PM, katrinka said: I have those. I actually passed my Zigueners on (between the 50's pulp comics art style and the racial stuff with the name, I wasn't using them much) but kept the Biedermeier and the Art Deco. Good news! The printing I bought very recently, in order to compare this particular type of 36 card deck with the Lenormand type of 36 card deck, has changed its name to Traditionelle Wahrsagekarten, which is a step demonstrating both a good sense of taste and common decency. Buyers familiar with the dated name will recognise the box, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sar Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 10/10/2021 at 3:13 PM, reall said: Happy to share my review for another cartomancy gem I was happy to find in my fav EU Tarot Shop recently!:) *il vostro destino by Masenghini combine wahrsage meaning printed in italian on each card & lenormand & sibbila style with playing card insert!:) Note: there is odd symbol on playing cards inserts i was wondering what may be until at closer look it resamble naked lady flying on winged orb?:) lol it's full 52 playing card Bridge size deck with 4 classic suits: hearts spades diamonds clover representing different areas of life & court cards deck F-Jack, Dama=Queen & Rei=King represent people!:) whimsy cartoony illustrations full of details are my fav!(: see pic attached!:) cards are printed on plasticky cardstock similar to Piatnik wahrsage that shuffle well & have that sshwush I like!:) there is also extra blank card & folded instruction in Italian that gives bare basic intro & suit meaning as well as few spreads all in classic tuckbox!^^ I will share some serious readings later but for now i think this may be my fav Pasians aka Solitaire deck as well!^^ lol p.s luv this back design as well!:) it seems to be reversable that would indicate this deck use reversals as well?:) if anyone know about these cards meaning post please!:) Now, this is gorgeous, I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavianhermit Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I'm beginning to suspect, that the Traditionelle Wahrsagekarten deck is descended from a cartomancy method from Saxony (Sachsen), the former electorate and kingdom, now state, in the east of present Germany.* 'Ordinary' playing cards from Saxony used to depict the dramatic scene from the 'Jealousy' card on Daus of Bells (counterintuitively, an Ace with two suite marks, borrowing the word Deuce from French deux) long before Piatnik decided to design the Traditionelle Wahrsagekarten in their present shape.** I will take a closer look at this, which may take some time. * I'm not referring to the very large duchy, which existed in the dark ages and up to the high middle ages. For politicial reasons, that one was divided into many feudal units located in what is now Niedersachsen/Lower Saxony, Sachsen-Anhalt/Saxony Anhalt and Sachsen/Saxony. The label "Saxony" has wandered around on the map over time. If Germans decided to name the present State of Saxony 'Obersachsen' (Upper Saxony), we clueless foreigners would understand geography better. The Saxons who settled in England during the collapse of the Roman Empire presumably came from what is now coastal Lower Saxony, thus the term 'Anglo-Saxon', but the linguists says, that English is most closely related to Frisian. ** I believe Piatnik updated the look of this type of deck at least in the early 1920s and the early 1960s, but I shall take closer look at that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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