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  1. The RWS does incorporate some of The Marseille, but not the other way around. (In my opinion, The Marseille is something feeling ”completely different” from the RWS.) The Marseille has a much stronger correlation between the cards, and everytime a card comes up it’s felt in its context within the deck. While you can do that with the RWS, The Marseille has an in-built panoramic feel. (In that way, the pips, which obviously go together with one another, are no different from the majors.) Also, there’s more primordial depth in-built in each card in the Marseille. I feel, that the RWS creators have mimicked The Marseille cards, but have missed the deeper point. (Overriding AND in the place of that, they’ve of course also added their own stuff.) Here, I feel that I should add that I like the RWS, and I like the original RW. The system works, and is easily accessible. It was a great creative endeavour to make and put it out there, and I’m grateful of their work today... The RWS real strength, to me is how adaptable it is. Ten thousand artists do their take, and it just keeps on reading well, and keeps on adding access to ten thousand layers... So, it becomes a question of comparing depth vs width. (Depending on which perspective you look at it from though, those near and dear and holy numerical measurements might of course be interchangeable... And in conclusion, what if Tarot is just ONE SOLO sneaky animal, from toes to heads and heads to tails... And we keep on staring at it, and caressing estimating with our eyes how perfectly symmetrical it seems, lol.) All of this written here, mwo (my weird opinion only)
  2. Aside from magical concerns, that sounds exactly like my process with ordering that deck, haha!
  3. Thanks for the picture! I really feel that the 2:nd Ed. look better. (I saw it on ebay for around 50-60 dollars, but can’t spend more money on tarot decks this year.) Happy reading with yours!
  4. Here it is. I’ll edit this post with my interpretation of it, when I’ve meditated on it more. 1. Tell me about yourself. What’s your most important characteristic? Temperance: 2. What are your strengths as a deck? The Star: 3. What are your limits? Page of Swords: 4. What are you here to teach me? Ace of Cups: 5. How can I best learn & collaborate with you? Two of Wands: 6. What is the potential outcome of our working relationship? The Hermit:
  5. (It doesn’t) You know that link with the deck interview you posted? With the nice table? I found something on that blog! There was a speculation that you’re either good at reading for others, or good at reading for yourself, but oftentimes it isn’t both. Well, I don’t know that I’m good at reading for someone else, but ever since I got here to tt&m and tried, info. flows to me in a way it doesn’t when I read for myself. I’m always in that place, you know, of thinking WOW, WHAT GREAT SPREAD THAT PERSON GOT! And I keep thinking that that’s a coincidence, but it keeps on happening. Others get beautiful, wonderful spreads! When I pull cards for myself, what I mostly get are accurate but un-exciting messages. They don’t ”flow” in that wonderful way. The whole spread isn’t illuminated with an amazing energy right there before my eyes... Instead, I have to become much more intellectual to solve it, which isn’t my favourite thing. Before I got here and learned the difference of looking at other people’s spreads, reading for myself was fine. The cards are talking, it ain’t that. But now, reading for myself is such a disappointment... This is no exception. You got a great deck interview, and my own doesn’t feel as exciting. I hope it’s just a phase I’m going through, and that my own spreads will begin to light up, too!
  6. Thank you for your kind words. Disclaimer: I have to emphasize that I’m not a tarot expert, and while I bought my first real deck some 20 years ago, I absolutely haven’t been ”actively approaching the tarot” all that time. Because you’re taking the tt&m class, you’ll also be schooled in a way that I haven’t been, and that will speed up the learning process, I’m sure, and be a real advantage you’ll have with you on your continuing journey! (My own approach with the tarot is oftentimes all-over-the-place and quite rogue, to put it kindly! But I’ve been left to my own devices with the tarot for too long to be able to start afresh... So, my own challenge will be ”to gather the scattered geese and learn to fly with them,” because it’s what I got to work with now!) (Thanks for NOT thinking I’m crazy, I appreciate that!) But what I’m attempting to say: I did everything backwards and upside down with the tarot these 20 years, and you’re at such an advantage not having to figure how to put everything right side up in the future!
  7. Oh! Ok! Yeah, I have some of Doreen’s, but it feels weird now that she herself would prefer that I would throw them on the pyre. (Which would be another topic, though.)
  8. @reall! Thank you! But what is a DV? (English isn’t my native language)
  9. @McFaire, yes I was about to post a reply, but you’re right that it isn’t the thread for it. Thank you very much though, for your consistent logic. It feels comfortable and familiar. That said, it is possible. (Not at all said in a spirit that Benebell did do it, but just as a general comment.) Anyway, the real question for me will be whether I will be one of those kids whom pass the marshmallow test. (AKA Can I sit in a room without opening that parcel?) @Flaxen, Thank you very much. It’s very good to know!
  10. Hi, @Chronata! Nice to meet you!
  11. (I think I better not reply individually to each one whom wrote on the video, so as not to bring that video to be the main topic of the thread. But to you whom responded, Thank you very much. I appreciate all of the individual thoughts on that video from you guys, very much! )
  12. Sorry I tossed that question out there and then disappeared. It was my intention to write more, but it’s summer and yesterday was spent strolling the warm and busy streets of Copenhagen. The thing is, I ordered the SKT Vitruvian a while back, along with the Book of Maps and the 22 Weeks workbook from LuLu. It was sent out pretty fast, but takes a while to get here, with transportation and going through customs etc. It was difficult to have to wait for it (naturally!,) so I thought I’d watch some youtube videos. And there, this guy was with his video. I felt it stood out from the rest, to say the least. Because of there’s a real person his suspicions center around, I didn’t want to spread the video by posting the link here. But his is a concern I’ve never heard before, in the tarot world. *** So; firstly; I must confess that I have never thought about it in relation to buying tarot decks, before. Also though, the SKT is very special in a multitude of ways, including the details surrounding its conception and with whom conceived of it. (As he cannot easily imagine that Benebell Wen has read nothing of practitioner magic in her life, I mean.) Maybe that is why these concerns are brought up for him now, and not with other decks. With all of his knowledge of ritualized magic, this must be really triggering for him. Especially as he does seem to believe in, and have a fear of, evil entities. None of that is an excuse to make an official video with content directly aimed at someone else. I think especially with his flare for drama, i.e the opening soundtrack and imagery of his video... that the result is unfortunate. It becomes personal attack, even though he doesn’t specifically say that what he brings up is anything but a warning, a suspicion, a possibility. He could have made a more general video, and didn’t, but I think that that might be coincidental, more than a personal vendetta. His choice there, is explained by his fears, social bluntness, etc. But; aside from all of that, there is one thing that catches my attention: Namely that he’s not wrong on how ritualized magic works. Many times over the years, I’ve come across very uninformed accounts, and his isn’t a part of that. Because of that, personally I can’t just shrug it off, and continue with my day without giving it a second thought. That said, some (a portion of) men are a bit paranoid when it comes to (what they perceive to be the mystery of) women. It’s a fact easily observable, especially with powerful and self-realized women, and also during everything concerning childbirth. He does seem fearful, and he does mention that she longs for a child (which is also a motive and gateway for taking to magical means in many fairytales.) So; I have to take that into account. (That his personal level of fear seem disproportionate to where he himself is at, in full safety from owning a copy of the deck he talks about.) Also, although well concealed, there’s a hint of anger during the part where he mentions that Benebell Wen refused to answer his question, but instead referred him to the book. From my point of view, that anger can come from no place but entitlement and a frustration that he didn’t get to explore his critique further. He was also robbed of the satisfaction of a receipt that his words had hit her with a negative impact. In other words, she remains empowered and fully shielded from what might just be a bad guardian angel on HIS shoulder... Then, when I consider that piece of info. from the other end of it, I feel that it’s very logical that she wouldn’t engage in personal conversation with him, and that that decision of hers is telling me something... Namely how she personally must have made the assessment that his attitude towards her is a toxic one. I say that, because when I had a few questions about the SKT Vitruvian, and I wrote that email address for James, he responded, and even though she wouldn’t have had to and I didn’t expect her personally to, SO DID SHE. And she went to great length, it wasn’t just any default answers, and it wasn’t just a few sentences. So, I know that she is a generous person with her time and she was with me. I had a really good impression. And all of those things that she does with her deck, and the intensity of her spiritual process with it, etc. Well, that seem 100% consistent with whom she is. There is no anomally there, no discrepancy between how she is with the deck business and how she seems outside of the deck business. I also did one of those SKT meditations with her on youtube, and I only got protective energy transmitted through that, and absolutely no bad energies. *** In conclusion, I think that that guys video plays on very deep-rooted (archetypal) fears imbedded in human kind. It’s fear of the unknown, isn’t it? ”Benebell seems a good person, this deck seems great and innocent... but beware, under the surface of what you can see, there’s something un-defined evil lurking.” And even though I know all of this and more, it’s really not all that easy to shake that thought that What if that dude is right. Maybe better safe than sorry. And I HATE that, because I love the deck. I love this (supposedly darned) deck so much. But, isn’t that exactly how Tarot as a whole, is probably viewed by Christian fanatics? That it’s bad spirited... So, as per usual I have something to be grateful for. That through this guy, I get a bit of a taste of what Tarot as a whole probably feels like, to so many people. But with this deck, I just want to love it. And I don’t want these concerns to be brought up. But do you guys think that it is possible that it is working with me already? Could it be that my SKT Vitruvian is already at play here? (The Wildwood affected me before I had a physical copy of it. Of course, not at all in this way, but with other grand gestures. The Wildwood does sometimes manifest itself ”outside of the deck” in an undeniable way.) Is that possible here, that that is what’s happening? And if so, is it just me, or is that whole video a manifestation that actually comes FROM THE DECK? Maybe that guy is just like the radio talker whom unknowingly plays synchronous songs? Maybe the deck pulled this guy to it, because his energy actually fits in with the decks message? Benebell Wen has sort of said it herself that it is a deep deck that the process of drawing it brought her on an incredibly intense spiritual journey. And she sort of said, that with it, you can’t have the light without first entering the dark. Thoughts on this would be so welcome!
  13. Hi, @LunaMarie! Nice to meet you! Southern California sounds like a great place. Can’t recommend any books, but I’m sure you’ll find good suggestions! Welcome to the forum!
  14. Hi, @Asra! Nice to meet you! There’s a great section for interpreting readings here! And we are all sorts, beginners, intermediate, advanced... so, just jump right in.
  15. Hi, @Rabbithorns! Nice to meet you! Kansas... well, maybe like Dorothy you’ve come home again? And you’re so right, it is actually odd that all of those tarot stories make sense. Ok with the original decks, but at some point the adaptations should start to make less and less sense, and they don’t! Tarot is just an ever-story! Welcome to the forum
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