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Are The Empress & The Emperor just John Gray in a Tarot deck?

I was re-reading the classic premise of John Gray’s 1992 book, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, and I had a lightbulb moment. Did Gray secretly steal his whole book concept from a Rider-Waite deck, or was he just channeling major Tarot energy?

His whole thesis is that men and women speak such vastly different emotional "languages" that we might as well be from different planets. Sound familiar?

Look at our favorite Major Arcana power couple:

  • The Empress (Venus): Living her absolute best life on a cozy velvet couch, surrounded by nature, flowing gowns, and good vibes. She looks like she just got back from a 5-star spa retreat.

  • The Emperor (Mars): Sitting on a rock throne wearing full plate armor in the middle of a desert, looking like he's about to declare war on a parking ticket.

Honestly, whenever The Emperor pops up in a love reading, I never know whether to say "congratulations" or "I'm so sorry." Talk about high-maintenance, rigid energy!

If we look at them through a psychological lens:

  1. The Empress is the Subconscious: She’s pure feeling, creativity, and flow. But let’s be real—the subconscious is a chaotic artist. It doesn't care about your Google Calendar or whether you have bills to pay; it just wants to feel things and eat grapes.

  2. The Emperor is the Conscious Defense System: He’s the stubborn security guard of your brain, building rigid walls and boundaries to keep the chaos out.

Without the Emperor, life is a boundary-free emotional hot mess. But without the Empress, life is a cold, boring military drill where fun goes to die.

Honestly, I now can't unsee them bickering over whose turn it was to load the dishwasher!

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Chariot

Chariot

TT&M Family

Ha ha! I enjoy your sense of humour. It just wants to feel things and eat grapes. But yeah. It's hard not to see the Empress and the Emperor as totally divergent energies. They both seem so immersed in their separate roles. I wonder if they can interact with each other at all. Is there any modicum of cooperation or understanding between them?

'Just you wait till your father gets home!'

'I'll let your mother deal with that.'

Misterei

Misterei

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@Chariot this is interesting timing as I have been getting Empress + Emperor in readings recently. And have often gotten them together in the past as well.

They absolutely DO work together. In so many ways on so many levels.

usually when they appear together in a spread as they often do [for me]--it is a matter of balancing the two energies. In my recent self-reading it was about balancing the mars/emperor work of repairs and painting with the venus/empress work of finding a good tenant. Let's just say I was overwhelmed by needing to do these 2 very different tasks at the same time and I needed to balance both activities. It was similar for my client. Client needed to find a balance between being social with co-workers [Empress] yet maintain strong boundaries so as not to get sucked-in to drama [Emperor]. I also get them as a pair for healthy couples. Like even going through a breakup the couple is putting the mother/empress and father/emperor role at the forefront. Or maybe they even stay married until the kids are 18. This is very much empress and emperor working together.

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Cariabella

Cariabella

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@Chariot These cards do interact with one another—or rather, they should. How you interpret them largely depends on your reading approach. I utilize the three-row blueprint: the Empress represents the subconscious mind, while the Emperor signifies external boundaries and how one navigates their environment.

Can these cards represent actual people? Without a doubt. If the Emperor appears as a future partner, it indicates someone who manages their surroundings and relationships with clarity and directness. Consequently, this person would also establish clear boundaries within a romantic partnership.

Cariabella

Cariabella

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This is beautiful, and it definitely works for balancing the two energies @Misterei .

Chariot

Chariot

TT&M Family

@Cariabella Yes, of course. I was joking with my post, and appreciating your own sense of humour. In fact, the last sentence you wrote in your original post was : "Honestly, I now can't unsee them bickering over whose turn it was to load the dishwasher!"

That summed up what the post got me thinking about. The Mars/Venus split.

Of course, when doing actual readings, I take the cards seriously, and see a need for both elements in a balanced situation. But sometimes it's good to bring analysis down to earth with a bit of humour. 😁

Cariabella

Cariabella

Supporter

@Chariot Glad you do "I take the cards seriously"! I hope I can one day, 😆🤣

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