Many Kings n Queens & Significators

[Krystalida]

Hey everybody!

I'm a bit amazed by this reading I did today, it is my general for the next 1 month.

My stumbleness came with the Kings as you can see and in general how many courts and people are there.
I m just posting the half of the GT. 

Lord n Lady
4 kings
3 queens
All together! 

Now I understand that each part has a different explanation but what made me think is what all these people are doing here.  And they are so closed to each other, actually is like from the Lord n Lady they have 2 or max 3 positions far.
Now I don't always see them as people, like the Clouds is often where are the problems, even though in the past it came as an ex, 
The Paths as far she is just the paths, I never recognized a person there. 
I wonder if anyone knows any further explanations?

Like I've read that 3 kings is male company or advice.
What about kings with their queens?
Like above the lady is Lily n Bouquet, a proper couple and from the suit of the Lady's, could it mean being with the Lord there that she is entering in a relationship with the lord? Or is it significant? 
And above the Lord is the House n Stork, again on the suit of Lord. 

Any ideas would be great 😊

[joy]

Hey Krystalida do you mind posting of pic of that part of your GT? I am confused where which card is. 😂

[Krystalida]

I upload it! Something went wrong. 

Anws posting it now 

Edited August 25, 2024 by Krystalida

[Sadewa]

Hi @Krystalida

 

On 8/26/2024 at 4:15 AM, Krystalida said:

My stumbleness came with the Kings as you can see and in general how many courts and people are there.

The way I learnt and personally use is to see the Lord & Lady as the main sigs. Courts can mean specific persons but tend to do so only in specific contexts. I also feel that some courts point to persons more than other courts, mainly Q♣️, K♠️ and sometimes K♦️.

In his blog that is no longer available, Andy Boroveshengra advised looking for social cards (his version includes House, Dog, Garden and Moon), for courts adjunct to these seem more likely to point to specific persons. However, in his demonstrations, he also explained that such interpretations relies heavily on the reader 'being seized' by the formation of cards. I can't remember if that was his original words, but I think we can safely conclude that it's a some-what fancier way to emphasise intuition at play.

 

On 8/26/2024 at 4:15 AM, Krystalida said:

4 kings
3 queens

 

Some readers read multiples, that is, the same value of playing cards appearing more than once in spreads larger than 4 cards. I believe such interpretations derive from Etteilla. 4 Kings, for example, can mean honour, if my memory is correct. 3 Queens, female rival.

 

On 8/26/2024 at 4:15 AM, Krystalida said:

What about kings with their queens?

 

A King and a Queen of the same suit can mean a couple. If a Jack also, a family. I think they need to touch each other. But there are no absolute rules, only individual circumstances and general guidelines. 

 

Personally when doing a GT, I read multiples and combinations of playing cards in a 3 by 3 box centring theme cards or the lines in which the Lord/ Lady falls. 

On 8/26/2024 at 4:15 AM, Krystalida said:

Now I don't always see them as people, like the Clouds is often where are the problems, even though in the past it came as an ex, 

 From my experience, I think it's safe to say that playing card courts play a relatively minor role compared to the main meanings of the symbols.

 

On 8/26/2024 at 4:15 AM, Krystalida said:

Like above the lady is Lily n Bouquet, a proper couple and from the suit of the Lady's, could it mean being with the Lord there that she is entering in a relationship with the lord? Or is it significant? 

Personally, if I were to interpret the courts as a couple, they would show external influences other than the Lord and Lady, so it could be that a couple somehow influences the situation.

My two cents. Hope it helps!

[Krystalida]

Apologies for my so late reply!

Im cut up in a night job lately and Im forgetting things 

 

On 8/27/2024 at 6:15 AM, Sadewa said:

The way I learnt and personally use is to see the Lord & Lady as the main sigs. Courts can mean specific persons but tend to do so only in specific contexts. I also feel that some courts point to persons more than other courts, mainly Q♣️, K♠️ and sometimes K♦️.

In his blog that is no longer available, Andy Boroveshengra advised looking for social cards (his version includes House, Dog, Garden and Moon), for courts adjunct to these seem more likely to point to specific persons. However, in his demonstrations, he also explained that such interpretations relies heavily on the reader 'being seized' by the formation of cards. I can't remember if that was his original words, but I think we can safely conclude that it's a some-what fancier way to emphasise intuition at play.

I also found out that the Lady & Lord are not always the querrent or the person in interest but sometimes come as a WomanMan playing an important role

 

To me for the Courts very often the KoS comes as a person and th KoD as you also said

from the Queens im not sure! but I can say for sure that the King n Queen of Spades come as my niece and nephew who are twins! since they were 4 months old in their mothers belly.

 

I used to visit a lot Andys blog and you are right that he identifies person cards in the non court cards in his book he has explanations for the Courts etc

KoD - a Man younger from the querrent brother male cousin or even a business partner

 

On 8/27/2024 at 6:15 AM, Sadewa said:

Some readers read multiples, that is, the same value of playing cards appearing more than once in spreads larger than 4 cards. I believe such interpretations derive from Etteilla. 4 Kings, for example, can mean honour, if my memory is correct. 3 Queens, female rival.

 

You remember right! 

In his book you can find them but I was wondering if anyone had another opinion or experience  around the web there are different interpretations for the pips

On 8/27/2024 at 6:15 AM, Sadewa said:

A King and a Queen of the same suit can mean a couple. If a Jack also, a family. I think they need to touch each other. But there are no absolute rules, only individual circumstances and general guidelines.

I havent thought of Jacks! I think of them as thoughts

On 8/27/2024 at 6:15 AM, Sadewa said:

From my experience, I think it's safe to say that playing card courts play a relatively minor role compared to the main meanings of the symbols.

 

Right?  sometimes they do sometimes not I think

On 8/27/2024 at 6:15 AM, Sadewa said:

Personally, if I were to interpret the courts as a couple, they would show external influences other than the Lord and Lady, so it could be that a couple somehow influences the situation.

My two cents. Hope it helps!

This an interesting way to see it I will keep this thought and observe them

On 8/27/2024 at 6:15 AM, Sadewa said:

Personally when doing a GT, I read multiples and combinations of playing cards in a 3 by 3 box centring theme cards or the lines in which the Lord/ Lady falls. 

On 8/25/2024 at 11:15 PM, Krystalida said:

So you only read the pips when around the significators?

Edited September 4, 2024 by Krystalida

[Sadewa]

On 9/4/2024 at 8:00 PM, Krystalida said:

So you only read the pips when around the significators?

Generally I only read pips selectively. But yes, in a GT I would only read the pips around the Lord/Lady and the cards that signify life areas. Sometimes the information shown by the pips doesn't exactly match the info conveyed in main symbols. I either view them as secondary addendums or ignore them completely. The main symbols can provide a lot on the table already. 

[Krystalida]

Very interesting thank you for the ideas

Till now in this reading the Lilly n Bouquet came as meanings than people but I still have 10 days to see the reading coming. Indeed with the pips I don't really see them, they are like a shadow. 

On 9/10/2024 at 2:54 AM, Sadewa said:

Generally I only read pips selectively. But yes, in a GT I would only read the pips around the Lord/Lady and the cards that signify life areas. Sometimes the information shown by the pips doesn't exactly match the info conveyed in main symbols. I either view them as secondary addendums or ignore them completely. The main symbols can provide a lot on the table already.