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The Cavalier / The Rider Directional Info ?


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WizardintheWoods
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As I structure my workbook/journal for my return to traditional readings I find myself adding a section on each card’s page for those with directional information.  I can’t remember where I read, it’s not in Andy’s book that I can see thus far, that what the nose of the Cavalier’s horse points to gives you an indication of the subject of the news being received.  I know all the cards very near/touching the card give you info on the news, but again, the one the horse’s nose is pointing to is the subject.  Is this something that traditional readers would normally look at or is this one of those idiosyncrasies that I picked up along the way and should discard?

 

I am very interested in finding a traditional source of the directional info on any cards this applies to or, with assistance, putting a listing of this info together to share here for anyone who might be interested in learning this as I am.

 

Thanking in advance for any feedback 🙂 

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If I remember correctly, Andy said (both in his book and his blog) that the card indicating the subject of the news the Rider is bringing is the card he’s riding away from (so, the opposite of the horse’s nose). That’s how I’m reading it anyway. I’ll be interested to see how others interpret the card he’s approaching 🙂 Further development? Or, if you read it the other way, what would the card behind mean to you?

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I do it the other way. The card behind him can have to do with where the news is coming from.
Andy was doing it like that in 2013, I still have it in my notes with attribution: "The card the Cavalier is ‘riding towards’ will show you what the news will be about." But he may have changed his stance since then. It might be in his book, but I couldn't find it.

He does mention Ship - Cavalier - Sun in the book and says "But I should have some news from overseas (Cavalier being far away and by the Ship) which will help (Cavalier – Sun)." So it would appear he was reading the card the Rider is moving away from as having to do with the source, and the card it rides towards as describing the news itself.

Again, though, he may have decided to do it differently since then. Things change. Back in the day, we all read Birds as "phone calls." 😉

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WizardintheWoods
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For whatever reason, the way my mind is processing the above from both replies, riding away from is where the news comes from and riding towards is describing the news works,again in my mind that is. I am almost sure in either case it sounds like one of those “choose and stick with it” type of decisions. 
Thank you for the assist ☺️

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Hello


Like several cards, there is no universal agreement on the Cavalier and direction. To be honest, other than the Clouds card, it would be impossible to claim any fixed doctrine exists. People do not agree on the Scythe or Coffin cards as much as you would think…
 

Most of the directional nuances I use come from my second teacher (or from observation). I no longer incorporate all her ideas.*
 

As Katrinka says, Madame was adamant that the Birds was a ’phone call. Her explanation was we often hear owls (she preferred the Rote or Blaue Eule) rather than see them. But I often wonder about FaceTime? I think she would have put FaceTime or Skype under the Park as she did meetings and presentations.


I prefer the Letter for ‘phone calls and FaceTime. Letters facilitate communication between two people who are not face-to-face as do telephones. 

 

With regards to the Cavalier, Madame Al-Ansari read the card behind the Cavalier as from whence he came and the card he faces as what his tidings bring. It can be a case of splitting hairs. 
 

If the Cavalier is riding from a person card it can be that the Cavalier is bringing them to you. So you might get a quick visit from the Queen of Spades (Cavalier [facing left] — Cloverleaf — Flowers). 
 

I’ve heard of several other “rules”: the card he leaves is boring or over, tomorrow v yesterday, &c. Malkiel Dietrich believed it could indicate certain preferences… 
 

I would recommend focusing on his proximity and the cards he’s with (order). Direction is about details. But it can messy. 


*For example, Madame Al-Ansari had a card for self-employment/temp (Fox) and salaried (Anchor).

 

However, I have found that this is distinction (once common) is unnecessary. Whether you’re a temp or not you’ll still be interested in security (Anchor), your professional reputation (Moon) and the competition (Fox). 

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