Tarot Illuminati and Apokalypsis

[Pretzel]

I've been wanting to pull the trigger on these two decks for so long. I love the amount of symbolism in them and the mythology behind the Apokalypsis. But I wonder how people go with doing a whole reading with them? I can see how I could use them for clarifiers, but realistically speaking, how do you guys go with using them for a whole large spread like the Celtic Cross?

For reference, I love Ciro Marchetti decks, so I'm not shy about colour and detail.

[gregory]

They work quite well for "intuitive" readings. I hate the term, but it's the only one we have except for the one called "glorpish" that someone once applied to me ! All readers use their intuition, and I object to the implication i the term "intuitive reading" that they don't - but I usually ONLY use the images and for that they work well as there's lots to go on.

[Pretzel]

@gregory Thank you! I have no idea what glorpish is, lol (it sounds like a UK term?). But I do understand what you mean by 'intuitive' - it gets a bad rap. You're right, we all use our intuition, otherwise we'd all be reciting the same half a dozen keywords. I use 'intuitive' to mean there's lots for me to extract from the image and can access just the right meaning. Not that I've tried, but I'm pretty sure I'd find it difficult to read with minimalist cards.

Good to hear they work well for you - I was wondering if they are 'too much' in a spread.

Thanks for sharing!

[gregory]

Glorpish is a word someone (an American, IIRC) on AT invented when we were talking about the ways people read:

 

https://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=89767

 

For me - it stuck.

 

https://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=143767

[TheLoracular]

Any spread over 7-8 cards is a real trial for me because of my fibromyalgia crashing down and I lose coherency and focus.  The deck I'm using makes a HUGE impact on how long I can keep it together; I wouldn't enjoy even a mid range (6-8 cards) reading with decks as colorful but jarring as those two on a day (like today) where I'm in a lot of pain and head achy.  

BUT?  I don't hate either of them and would happily use either to give someone a simple 3-card or 4-card reading on any day I was up to reading cards at all 🙂

Edited July 24, 2021 by TheLoracular

[vulprix]

13 hours ago, Pretzel said:

I've been wanting to pull the trigger on these two decks for so long. I love the amount of symbolism in them and the mythology behind the Apokalypsis. But I wonder how people go with doing a whole reading with them? I can see how I could use them for clarifiers, but realistically speaking, how do you guys go with using them for a whole large spread like the Celtic Cross?

For reference, I love Ciro Marchetti decks, so I'm not shy about colour and detail.

I’m a big fan of both, and champion the Apokalypsis especially because it feels a little underrated. I’m working with it this week for the Deck of the Week thread, and I’ll be sure to try out a large spread or two and post it there if you are interested! 🙂 

[Pretzel]

12 hours ago, gregory said:

Glorpish is a word someone (an American, IIRC) on AT invented when we were talking about the ways people read:

 

https://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=89767

 

For me - it stuck.

 

https://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=143767

Ahhh I see. Fascinating threads. Thanks for sharing Gregory.

[Pretzel]

10 hours ago, TheLoracular said:

Any spread over 7-8 cards is a real trial for me because of my fibromyalgia crashing down and I lose coherency and focus.  The deck I'm using makes a HUGE impact on how long I can keep it together; I wouldn't enjoy even a mid range (6-8 cards) reading with decks as colorful but jarring as those two on a day (like today) where I'm in a lot of pain and head achy.  

BUT?  I don't hate either of them and would happily use either to give someone a simple 3-card or 4-card reading on any day I was up to reading cards at all 🙂

Sorry to hear about your fibromyalgia issues, I understand what you mean by those days. Thanks for sharing, that's helpful and good to know that 3 or 4 cards are fine even for 'those' days.

[Pretzel]

9 hours ago, vulprix said:

I’m a big fan of both, and champion the Apokalypsis especially because it feels a little underrated. I’m working with it this week for the Deck of the Week thread, and I’ll be sure to try out a large spread or two and post it there if you are interested! 🙂 

Oh fabulous. Yes I can see how Apokalypsis is underrated... the book alone, from what I can tell, is a great resource. That's awesome that you're working with it this week for Deck of the Week - I'll definitely subscribe! Thanks so very much for sharing 🙌