Fish and Anchor

[Guest]

I saw a person interpret the fish as a soulmate in a relationship reading. Does anyone here do that, if so why? I also saw the anchor being interpreted as an open relationship. I'm trying to understand why cause it's not logical to me. I would love your thoughts on this! 

Edited October 6, 2021 by Guest

[katrinka]

Nope and nope.
That's completely and utterly irrelevant to those cards. Somebody's faking being a reader.

[Guest]

58 minutes ago, katrinka said:

Nope and nope.
That's completely and utterly irrelevant to those cards. Somebody's faking being a reader.

Thank you so much!

[Sadewa]

The Fish can sometimes mean *depth* in my readings. In readings concerning romance, that can mean deep feelings, but not necessarily deep love. With negative cards, it could as well be negative feelings.

 

Personally I don't interpret the Fish as soulmates, but then again, I don't really believe all the soulmate stuff. Doing a card reading asking about soulmate doesn't prove the concept's legitimacy as well.

 

The Anchor stands for stability and often faithfulness in a relationship. Alone, I would never read it as an open relationship. Honestly I personally won't jump to that conclusion even if the Anchor is with negative cards.

[WizardintheWoods]

To me they really are either reading the cards as they want them to show up for the Sitter or they don’t have a clue on how to read using the Lenormand system. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sadewa said:

The Fish can sometimes mean *depth* in my readings. In readings concerning romance, that can mean deep feelings, but not necessarily deep love. With negative cards, it could as well be negative feelings.

 

Personally I don't interpret the Fish as soulmates, but then again, I don't really believe all the soulmate stuff. Doing a card reading asking about soulmate doesn't prove the concept's legitimacy as well.

 

The Anchor stands for stability and often faithfulness in a relationship. Alone, I would never read it as an open relationship. Honestly I personally won't jump to that conclusion even if the Anchor is with negative cards.

Faithfulness I can understand! Do you have an "open relationship" card? 

[Sadewa]

42 minutes ago, Smilla said:

Faithfulness I can understand! Do you have an "open relationship" card? 

Not really😅 I don't really have a card that I scream open relationship whenever it pops up. For me it would depend on the context.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sadewa said:

Not really😅 I don't really have a card that I scream open relationship whenever it pops up. For me it would depend on the context.

I had to ask 😁

[selena]

On 10/6/2021 at 4:25 AM, Smilla said:

I saw a person interpret the fish as a soulmate in a relationship reading. Does anyone here do that, if so why? I also saw the anchor being interpreted as an open relationship. I'm trying to understand why cause it's not logical to me. I would love your thoughts on this! 

That is a new one.  Due to the Fish’s plentifulness, I see the Fish as depth of feeling (qualified by other cards) in relationships. But soulmates is quite a leap and I cannot see it myself.
 

If you drop Anchor you are steadied. So, it is not really a picture of open relationships and talks more about faithfulness and steadiness.  The Garden is more open relationships as it is associated with the people rather than a person. You might see the Ring near it. 

[katrinka]

31 minutes ago, selena said:

If you drop Anchor you are steadied. So, it is not really a picture of open relationships and talks more about faithfulness and steadiness.

Exactly. And I do think open relationships can be steady, if the true focus is respect rather than assuming control and ownership of the other person. But that is not automatically the case just because a relationship is open.
That person's interpretation was the opposite of the card's meaning.

[selena]

10 minutes ago, katrinka said:

Exactly. And I do think open relationships can be steady, if the true focus is respect rather than assuming control and ownership of the other person. But that is not automatically the case just because a relationship is open.
That person's interpretation was the opposite of the card's meaning.

Definitely. There are couples in long-term open and polyamarous relationships far steadier than traditional monogamous relationships. The cards could communicate that too.  
 

I’ve never seen the Fish or the Anchor read this way. I remember a reader emphasising the water on the Fish card as indicative of emotions, intuition, etc. I just cannot remember who… 

[Guest]

10 hours ago, selena said:

That is a new one.  Due to the Fish’s plentifulness, I see the Fish as depth of feeling (qualified by other cards) in relationships. But soulmates is quite a leap and I cannot see it myself.
 

If you drop Anchor you are steadied. So, it is not really a picture of open relationships and talks more about faithfulness and steadiness.  The Garden is more open relationships as it is associated with the people rather than a person. You might see the Ring near it. 

I was thinking the birds could indicate an open relationship with some other card ofc. Hmm.. maybe the Bouquet and Birds? But The garden is probably better. 

Edited October 8, 2021 by Guest

[Guest]

On that note. Some people interpret the Snake as seducing and inducing. But not Andy, he uses Lily as a sexual card. Can you use the same keywords (seducing, inducing) for the Lily card? 

[selena]

No, Andy does associate the Snake card with inducement. But he does not see adultery or seduction as the only form inducement/default option.  
 

He discusses it here: https://circlestead.com/2021/06/26/more-subtle-than-any-of-the-beasts-the-serpent-card-2/

 

In terms of relationships, the Lily refers to tenderness, mutual respect and finding total fulfilment in each other. There is an intimacy, here. Sex can be a part of that.
 

In addition the Lily is the card of family. 

Inducement and seduction does not fit the sexuality of the Lily (for me, at least).  

[Guest]

16 hours ago, selena said:

No, Andy does associate the Snake card with inducement. But he does not see adultery or seduction as the only form inducement/default option.  
 

He discusses it here: https://circlestead.com/2021/06/26/more-subtle-than-any-of-the-beasts-the-serpent-card-2/

 

In terms of relationships, the Lily refers to tenderness, mutual respect and finding total fulfilment in each other. There is an intimacy, here. Sex can be a part of that.
 

In addition the Lily is the card of family. 

Inducement and seduction does not fit the sexuality of the Lily (for me, at least).  

I must have misunderstood then. I thought Andy did not see the seducing part at all within the meaning of snake. 

[selena]

8 hours ago, Smilla said:

I must have misunderstood then. I thought Andy did not see the seducing part at all within the meaning of snake. 

In his book and course the essence was given as sedition which refers to inciting people to rebel or transgress.  Some readers specifically interpret the inducement as being sexual seduction. That is a rather narrow and extreme view imho. But it is something each reader has to decide on her own. 

[Guest]

14 hours ago, selena said:

In his book and course the essence was given as sedition which refers to inciting people to rebel or transgress.  Some readers specifically interpret the inducement as being sexual seduction. That is a rather narrow and extreme view imho. But it is something each reader has to decide on her own. 

Thank you, I really appreciate having this discussion. 🙂