The Paths + Clover

[Panda]

Could the Paths & Clover represent going camping? Or a trip in the country? 

 

What do you think about this combo? 

[Decan]

With this combo I would go with a choice which will be fine for the short term.

[WizardintheWoods]

I think of Park/Garden more as the outdoors myself. Clover and Paths to me would be a decision that needs to be made quickly to gain its benefit - sort of like a limited time offer as they say on TV 🤣  I also came back to edit - knowing the question/putting this into context, is the real info needed to say how I would interpret this pair. 

Edited October 18, 2021 by WizardintheWoods

[Panda]

5 hours ago, Decan said:

With this combo I would go with a choice which will be fine for the short term.

Yes, makes sense. Thanks Decan.

 

Could it be a spur of the moment decision? 

Edited October 18, 2021 by Panda

[selena]

10 hours ago, Panda said:

Could the Paths & Clover represent going camping? Or a trip in the country? 

In my readings, Garden + House is camping (Garden + Ship is caravaning). 

 

The Paths + Clover is often an easy decision or a deciding between two equally good options.  

 

It can sometimes indicate a brief walk or something happening in 2 - 4 weeks’ time.

[Panda]

45 minutes ago, WizardintheWoods said:

I think of Park/Garden more as the outdoors myself. Clover and Paths to me would be a decision that needs to be made quickly to gain its benefit - sort of like a limited time offer as they say on TV 🤣  I also came back to edit - knowing the question/putting this into context, is the real info needed to say how I would interpret this pair. 

Yes, I do too. Park/Garden was taken up with a previous question.

 

Okay. I'll fill you in, as I know how important context is.

 

I did a reading regarding a 4 year old girl who disappeared from the tent she was sleeping in whilst camping with her parents. They were camping in a fairly remote location near the beach. There were other people  at campsite at the time.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10102633/Police-call-went-remote-bush-camp-Cleo-went-missing-come-forward.html

 

I asked "What happened to Choe?" Garden + Woman + Anchor

 

From the reading, I wondered if her mother was on the beach with a group of people, perhaps in a gathering, drinking and generally enjoying themselves, when she went missing, or they didn't notice her going missing because they were in "party" mode. 

 

The police have been very tight lipped, other than to say that there was an "interaction" with Chloe at 1:30am by her parents. Details of the interaction have not been revealed. I wondered if the interaction could have been her mother checking on her then resuming the gathering, or checking on her before they went to bed having consumed a large amount of alcohol. When her parents woke at 6:00am, they realised she was missing. Her sleeping bag is also missing, possibly with some other items, of which the police won't disclose. I personally think it unlikely Chloe would have left the tent on her on accord with her sleeping bag. It seems more logical that someone may have scooped her up, sleeping bag and all, whilst she was asleep.

 

Then I asked "Was Chloe abducted by a stranger?" Lillies + Paths + Clover.

 

Lillies I thought would represent an older man. I wondered if Paths + Clover could represent a short road trip and if it could possibly represent someone who was on a camping trip at the time, or an older man made a snap decision and abducted her. 

 

Lots of maybes I know!

 

I would like to say she will be found safe and sound but I'm not optimistic. Poor little thing. 

 

 

[Panda]

22 minutes ago, selena said:

In my readings, Garden + House is camping (Garden + Ship is caravaning). 

 

The Paths + Clover is often an easy decision or a deciding between two equally good options.  

 

It can sometimes indicate a brief walk or something happening in 2 - 4 weeks’ time.

Thanks for your input selena. I never considered Garden + House as camping but it makes sense. And a brief walk fits well too. 

[Decan]

1 hour ago, Panda said:

Yes, makes sense. Thanks Decan.

 

Could it be a spur of the moment decision? 

In itself not particularly for me, depending on the context, but you explained that further.

 

45 minutes ago, Panda said:

I asked "What happened to Choe?" Garden + Woman + Anchor

Garden is a public place, Anchor could be near the sea at times, but here this could fit the context concerning the location.

Likely a woman who was there is involved or knows more than she said about what happened. She could be her mother or just another woman there in this place with them.

[Decan]

1 hour ago, Panda said:

Then I asked "Was Chloe abducted by a stranger?" Lillies + Paths + Clover.

Lilies can indicate the family but had several meanings. Paths can be doubts.

I’m wondering if the family won’t be involved one way or another; there can be doubts regarding their side of the story. Clover could say that things will evolve soon.

 

ETA: and so regarding your question (yes-no), I would say no, I don’t know what really happened but if the family is involved it’s not an abduction by a stranger.

Edited October 18, 2021 by Decan

[joy]

4 hours ago, Panda said:

Then I asked "Was Chloe abducted by a stranger?" Lillies + Paths + Clover.

 

Lillies I thought would represent an older man. I wondered if Paths + Clover could represent a short road trip and if it could possibly represent someone who was on a camping trip at the time, or an older man made a snap decision and abducted her. 

 

Lots of maybes I know!

 

I would like to say she will be found safe and sound but I'm not optimistic. Poor little thing. 

 

 

 

Oh Dear I too hope she is found soon, sound and safe!

 

Question was: "Was Chloe abducted by a stranger?" Lillies + Paths + Clover.

Lilies = positive-neutral

Path = neutral

Clover = positive

 

So I would tend to say, yes she was abducted by a stranger....

 

Still learning but honestly I do not like the Lilies here, yes I know it can be family... but my first thoughts were, that someone older (lilies) took their chance (clover) and made a quick decision (path) to take her.

 

[Decan]

50 minutes ago, joy said:

Still learning but honestly I do not like the Lilies here, yes I know it can be family... but my first thoughts were, that someone older (lilies) took their chance (clover) and made a quick decision (path) to take her.

I think we thought about the same thing, since I didn't like to see the Lilies here too...

I preferred to don't choose this option though. Nevertheless, she is too young regarding a running away, so well...

 

Anyway if we focuse on Panda's question, actually this last question isn't just one, but 2 questions, which is a little tricky:

-"Was Chloe abducted?"

-"Was a stranger involved?"

If it was by someone who is close to the family, they won't be a stranger. At times it's not that unusual to see the own family involved (or someone close), we can see that in the news, sadly.

But, hoping she will be found soon, sound and safe!

Edited October 18, 2021 by Decan

[joy]

11 minutes ago, Decan said:

I think we thought about the same thing, since I didn't like to see the Lilies here too...

I preferred to don't choose this option though. Nevertheless, she is too young regarding a running away, so well...

 

Agree, she is far too young to run away alone....

 

11 minutes ago, Decan said:

 

Anyway if we focuse on Panda's question, actually this last question isn't just one, but 2 questions, which is a little tricky:

-"Was Chloe abducted?"

-"Was a stranger involved?"

If it was by someone who is close to the family, they won't be a stranger. At times it's not that unusual to see the own family involved (or someone close), we can see that in the news, sadly.

 

True it is indeed 2 questions really and yes often unfortunately family is involved.....

 

11 minutes ago, Decan said:

But, hoping she will be found soon, sound and safe!

 

Same here, I look at that link and it is such a remote place!

[selena]

8 hours ago, Panda said:

I asked "What happened to Choe?" Garden + Woman + Anchor

For me, these cards suggest that what happened to Chloe is that she entered the beach looking for her mother.
 

8 hours ago, Panda said:

Then I asked "Was Chloe abducted by a stranger?" Lillies + Paths + Clover.

  

The Lily can be a man. It has the Paths next to it which can indicate a blended/step family member.  Someone considered family but without blood ties. 

[WizardintheWoods]

@selena, interesting insight on Paths indicating blended/step family, someone considered family without blood ties. I absolutely understand how you got there I just never have thought of Paths in that manner. Thanks for the heads up!

[selena]

10 hours ago, WizardintheWoods said:

@selena, interesting insight on Paths indicating blended/step family, someone considered family without blood ties. I absolutely understand how you got there I just never have thought of Paths in that manner. Thanks for the heads up!

Thank you. It is just an observation based on when paired with the Lily card. 

[Panda]

On 10/18/2021 at 11:15 PM, Decan said:

In itself not particularly for me, depending on the context, but you explained that further.

 

Garden is a public place, Anchor could be near the sea at times, but here this could fit the context concerning the location.

Likely a woman who was there is involved or knows more than she said about what happened. She could be her mother or just another woman there in this place with them.

According to the news reports, the mother and stepfather were asleep in the tent all night. The interaction was apparently Chloe asking for a glass of water. She then went back to sleep.

 

Given the cards drawn, I feel there is more to the story. As you say, a woman knows more than she has said about what happened. 

[Panda]

On 10/19/2021 at 2:27 AM, joy said:

 

Oh Dear I too hope she is found soon, sound and safe!

 

Question was: "Was Chloe abducted by a stranger?" Lillies + Paths + Clover.

Lilies = positive-neutral

Path = neutral

Clover = positive

 

So I would tend to say, yes she was abducted by a stranger....

 

Still learning but honestly I do not like the Lilies here, yes I know it can be family... but my first thoughts were, that someone older (lilies) took their chance (clover) and made a quick decision (path) to take her.

 

Your thinking is similar to mine. The mother had a press conference and said that Chloe would never leave the tent by herself. Even if she wants to go to the toilet, she always needs her mother to help her. The police are putting more emphasis on the theory that Chloe was abducted. 

[Panda]

On 10/19/2021 at 3:13 AM, Decan said:

I think we thought about the same thing, since I didn't like to see the Lilies here too...

I preferred to don't choose this option though. Nevertheless, she is too young regarding a running away, so well...

 

Anyway if we focuse on Panda's question, actually this last question isn't just one, but 2 questions, which is a little tricky:

-"Was Chloe abducted?"

-"Was a stranger involved?"

If it was by someone who is close to the family, they won't be a stranger. At times it's not that unusual to see the own family involved (or someone close), we can see that in the news, sadly.

But, hoping she will be found soon, sound and safe!

I don't think it was a member of the family. The camping area is quite remote. The biological father was interviewed by the police. He lives a fair distance from the camping area. Not to say he couldn't have been involved but at this point, it seems unlikely. The police haven't revealed any further information regarding the father, other than to say he has been interviewed. So who knows. 

[Panda]

On 10/19/2021 at 6:41 AM, selena said:

For me, these cards suggest that what happened to Chloe is that she entered the beach looking for her mother.
 

  

The Lily can be a man. It has the Paths next to it which can indicate a blended/step family member.  Someone considered family but without blood ties. 

According to news reports, her mother and stepfather were in the tent with her all night. I personally find it hard to comprehend that they wouldn't have heard her either leaving the tent on her own (unlikely in my mind) or someone entering the tent whilst she was asleep and abducting her. The whole scenario sounds off to me. 

[Panda]

An update from the news:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10107529/Crucial-details-Cleo-Smiths-mum-revealed-TV-interview-little-WA-girl-went-missing.html

 

Apparently Chloe was sleeping in a separate area of the tent. Her mother said she wouldn't have been able to undo the zipper on her sleeping bag by herself. The zipper on the tent was almost completely open. The police have said there were a lot of people camping there at the time. There are also reports of a car skidding off at 3am in the morning, though the police have refused to comment or confirm. Sounds more and more like an abduction to me.

[joy]

Thanks @Panda for the update even though it is all very sad 😞

[WizardintheWoods]

This is truly a sad story and even worse that these happen as frequently as they do and we just don’t always hear of them. 

[joy]

1 hour ago, WizardintheWoods said:

This is truly a sad story and even worse that these happen as frequently as they do and we just don’t always hear of them. 

Yep and too often they stay unsolved... I look at the other link with the images of the location. It is unreal to think someone could just drive by and leave unnoticed...

[Panda]

On 10/20/2021 at 10:11 AM, joy said:

Yep and too often they stay unsolved... I look at the other link with the images of the location. It is unreal to think someone could just drive by and leave unnoticed...

 

The police have now stated that Cleo (I wrongly thought her name was Chloe) has definitely been abducted. It was either someone who was camping at the same location and took Cleo using opportunity, or someone who pre-planned Cleo's abduction. The police weren't notified of her disappearance until 3 hours after she went missing. By that time, the abductor would be far away. A very grim situation. I really feel for the mother. She must be in hell. 

[joy]

20 hours ago, Panda said:

 

The police have now stated that Cleo (I wrongly thought her name was Chloe) has definitely been abducted. It was either someone who was camping at the same location and took Cleo using opportunity, or someone who pre-planned Cleo's abduction. The police weren't notified of her disappearance until 3 hours after she went missing. By that time, the abductor would be far away. A very grim situation. I really feel for the mother. She must be in hell. 

Oh no! And that now asks for many more questions like why did they not report it for 3 hours? As a mother would you wait 3 hours?