akiva Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Misterei said: @akiva My Russian cards have King Queen Jack ... only Page is missing if you're used to Tarot. I think I made a typo. Now you got me curious about the square decks, though. Ooh hello @Misterei yes the square cards are a real curiosity. I'll attach a picture of them (excuse the glare). Funnily enough they are called pasyans also! You rotate them around to match the images. Unless this is what you're referring to 😂 1 hour ago, Misterei said: As I've been reading this thread between you and @Mister I HAVE seen this Russian method with 36 cards ... but at this point ... Tarot and Lenormand and Pasyans cards are it for me. My brain won't hold anymore };> And I barely know LeNormand and Pasyans at that! I know what you mean, it's like the brain only has so much bandwidth for card systems 😅 1 hour ago, Misterei said: How Funny. I recently bought a Tarocchini deck from Amazon ... LOVE the Bolognese style ... but when I saw the 2s,3s,4s, 5s were "missing" ... I returned it. (Yes, I felt stupid but Lo Scarabeo sells so many TAROCCHI and TAROT decks ... I didn't realize it only had 62 cars). You would like that deck ... but I just can't read without all my numbers };> Was it a Bolognese deck? Or the Mitelli? Both are real lookers, are you trying to enable me? 😁 All the numbers are helpful at times, I can get that, and if you're used to them all being there and suddenly they're not... 😯
Mister Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 17 hours ago, akiva said: I think I need to follow suit! By all means, do so! The stuff dubbed 'traditional' (it is old, yes... Still, in some cases, I do not know how actually traditional something is, as opposed to 'made up by the author in times past'!) , well, that stuff makes for nice ground to dig roots in. From there, the trunk: What holds water for you, brings "it" together, best kept simple - a trunk is a natural one-liner in essence. Last, the branches. They will develop naturally by reading with the trunk grown out of the roots. Best give it time to develop, for what you are searching for is a functional system for reading, with a satisfactory degree of precision (i.e. you know what the cards are telling and what is gathered therefrom does play out in what we refer to as "reality"). Instead of the following (which is here for those where it may instill guilt, so they may find betterment): A system of reading the cards to pose as some sort of authority on cartomancy for the sake of gathering an audience of gullible ones and transform them into a herd of sheep to get their wool and feel like they were some sort of big deal.
akiva Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 @Mister that's an excellent anology with the tree, very poetic, thank you. 😊 And you're right, it takes time to develop a functional system using existing ones as the base. Especially when they need updating to match our current reality.
Misterei Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) On 2/20/2023 at 5:29 PM, akiva said: Ooh hello @Misterei yes the square cards are a real curiosity. I'll attach a picture of them (excuse the glare). Funnily enough they are called pasyans also! You rotate them around to match the images. Unless this is what you're referring to ... I know what you mean, it's like the brain only has so much bandwidth for card systems ... Was it a Bolognese deck? @akiva the deck I sadly returned is called Tarocchino Al Soldato: Anima Antiqua. It's pretty cheap on Amazon. It's similar to my beloved Bolognese style deck ... but sadly I just freak out with no 2s, 3s. 4s. 5s. If you can read the abridged decks ... it's lovely. And yes, the cards you pictured are Pasyans cards. They're a bit similar to LeNormand. I "took" to Pasyans and LeNormands. But other systems like kipper, playing card methods, etc. didn't hit for me ... and I don't have the mental bandwidth to force myself to learn something that doesn't hit ... if that makes sense. Edited February 22, 2023 by Misterei
akiva Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 @Misterei nice to meet another pasyans reader! 😁 It's all down to preference I guess, which makes vs questions like this thread very interesting to answer/read. What reads 'accurately' or not for one person isn't always going to be the same for another! 😊
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