jema Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 i haven't had the urge to buy a new deck in forever but Bodhis post made me go look up that Delta Enduring (sold out so it is a pipe dream for now) and your own Southernisms oracle is just so cool!!!
Saturn Celeste Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 I have my deck of the week to share! ;D My morning with the Tarot Illuminati. Tarot Illuminati – Yes/No – Do you enjoy working with me? Focus RW Symbolism. Positions: 1) My intent to you 2) Deck purpose for me 3) Your messages to me I'd like to start out with an apology for my absence. This study is only one day instead of a week because of time. I am currently beta testing a mod for a modder in Fallout 4. One of my side 'gigs' is doing voice acting on Fallout mods. We are going through a period of time where the mod is rapidly changing and I need to stay on top of it and play. Yup, life is tough when you're a beta tester! Anyway, I have some free time today I've set aside to share my thoughts with everyone. Perhaps I've overshared but this is where I'm currently at. I'm not even taking readings at the moment so I'm looking forward to this time today with an old friend, one of my very first decks. Beta testing doesn't usually consume this much time, I'll be back to normal in a few days. I chose the Tarot Illuminati deck to work with because it was the first deck I bought for myself as a beginning reader. I learned tarot on the JJ Swiss deck and I purchased the Etruscan tarot for myself. Then I graduated to my son's Robin Wood deck and shortly after that I realized I wanted to make reading tarot cards a source of income. I purchased this deck to be my main working deck of the complex symbolism and lushness of color on each card. I have spent the week thinking about how I should go about my study and decided to do a reading with my cards. I will ask them a yes/no question, interpret their answer and point out all the symbols on each card. I'm curious to see what my cards have to say! I don't usually use spreads and I use 3 cards for yes/no questions. Reversed cards are no, upright cards are yes, the moon is a no regardless of the other cards and the sun is a yes regardless of the other cards. I can (as in this instance today) assign positions to the cards but usually I look at the big picture and then pick each card apart. In the reading today, I assigned intent to 3 different positions. Deck used http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/illuminati/ The reading (click!) Cards left to right: The Devil, 8 of Pentacles, 4 of Swords (rev) I had to laugh at the reading. The reply is the deck most likely enjoyed working with me but the 4 of Swords is a qualifying statement. This deck has always had a sense of humor! Without knowing the intent of the positions assigned to the cards, this is my immediate take. I love Devil cards, they are the top 3 of my most favorite cards (Devil, Moon and Temperance). I think it is my deck's nod to my proclivities. The deck knew I was using it to hone my skills as a reader. Back in my early days, I used the deck all the time, day after day. What I did was ask it questions and threw the answers out to the universe. I did this for hours. I feel the reason the 4 of Swords is reversed is because I used the deck so much and wore it out! It also brings up the Devil as my source of obsession and I kept the deck in service as long as the cards allowed me—then finally begged me for rest. After I gained confidence, I did purchase many more decks and the Illuminati finally got the rest it wanted and needed. Now, if I'm doing a multiple readings at a time, I never use the same deck. Every reading gets it's own deck to avoid deck fatigue! The reading: 1) Did you enjoy my intent when I queried? The Devil. Early on I had trouble voicing my intent. I felt many times I confused the cards but they knew I was asking for a reply. Knowing what I know now, I'm sure they felt enslaved to me and they HAD to reply in a way I would understand but it was difficult for them because my intent of the reading was not clear enough for them and they felt trapped. 2) Did you enjoy the purpose I asked of you? 8 of Pentacles. The reply is very clear. They understood I was learning and working on my skills all the time and their reply today made me feel really happy I didn't betray them. I learned so much from the deck. 3) Did you enjoy your messages to me? Again I feel I wore these cards out and in turn I wore myself out as well. For a solid year I lived and breathed the tarot, 24/7. If I wasn't working at my table doing universal readings I was watching tarot videos. But after 3 concentrated months of exclusive use, the deck did get a rest as I purchased more decks and moved on expanding my skills with new decks. My Illuminati finally got the rest it deserved! Now for the symbols on each card of the reading. The Devil 1. Colors – This devil does not wear Prada, it wears red. A passive blue surrounds the red showing the aggression of the Devil but the passivity of bondage from the humans. 2. Chains represent a situation we have become a slave to such as thoughts, vices or to others. 3. The Devil represents spiritual blindness and temptation. 4. Nudity indicates ego is dissolved and laid bare. Nudity expresses transforming to higher selves. After the Devil card, many decks finish with naked trump cards indicating there is no longer a place for false modesty, hiding anything from ourselves or each other, or protection from forces and processes we encounter along the way. This journey past the Devil asks that we face each step honestly and openly. 5. Where they are looking. The Devil faces forward with dominance in his face. The images reminds me of Xerxes in the movie, 300. 8 of Pentacles 1. Colors are red and orange and indicate a passion for what he's doing but with a playful side when he's not working. (At least I like to think that). 2. He's looking down indicating a more passive, meditative state—he's in the zone! He's intent on what he's doing and loving it. 3. Brick wall in the background indicates to not hold ourselves back or sell ourselves short, appropriate for the card. 4. The bench reminds us to take a moment to examine the details; that the querent needs to sit back, relax and take the time to examine or enjoy the situations laid out in the reading. 5. Fire is the symbol of creative and destructive power. In this card it is the energy, passion, ambition and inspiration the card represents. 6. This particular card does not have a hammer, it has fire instead. A hammer can symbolize that we need to get the job done and do it well. 4 of Pentacles 1. Stained Glass is a symbol of perception and how our vision (mental, physical and spiritual) can change according to our perception and beliefs. Looking through the glass points out the need to be honest about perceptions of situations. Seeing clearly or through rose colored glasses? 2. Arches as openings or passageways. A new direction indicated by the reading. 3. The Coffin (Tomb) represents laying to rest the thoughts and things that no longer serve us. This can also be a coming out symbol—as we are coming out of a tomb-like state of mind. After stagnation this symbolizes evolution from a stagnant state to an awakened state and a new phase of understanding. 4. Orange and red colors are healing powers and desire. 5. Snake [skin] on the clothing. Snake [skin] is about renewal, rebirth and development. Snakes shed their skin to grow just as coming out of stagnation helps us grow. I have enjoyed spending my time with this deck today and learned a lot more about symbolism in cards!
VGimlet Posted January 20, 2018 Author Posted January 20, 2018 What a fun side job CelesteSaturn! I loved the original Fallout. I mostly just play Wow, but I take some side trips here and there, LOL. Next World has read really well for me this week. Really, really tempted, but I have other decks coming in, and I want to also get back to my older decks.
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 I have my deck of the week to share! ;D My morning with the Tarot Illuminati. Tarot Illuminati – Yes/No – Do you enjoy working with me? Focus RW Symbolism. Positions: 1) My intent to you 2) Deck purpose for me 3) Your messages to me I'd like to start out with an apology for my absence. This study is only one day instead of a week because of time. I am currently beta testing a mod for a modder in Fallout 4. One of my side 'gigs' is doing voice acting on Fallout mods. We are going through a period of time where the mod is rapidly changing and I need to stay on top of it and play. Yup, life is tough when you're a beta tester! Anyway, I have some free time today I've set aside to share my thoughts with everyone. Perhaps I've overshared but this is where I'm currently at. I'm not even taking readings at the moment so I'm looking forward to this time today with an old friend, one of my very first decks. Beta testing doesn't usually consume this much time, I'll be back to normal in a few days. I chose the Tarot Illuminati deck to work with because it was the first deck I bought for myself as a beginning reader. I learned tarot on the JJ Swiss deck and I purchased the Etruscan tarot for myself. Then I graduated to my son's Robin Wood deck and shortly after that I realized I wanted to make reading tarot cards a source of income. I purchased this deck to be my main working deck of the complex symbolism and lushness of color on each card. I have spent the week thinking about how I should go about my study and decided to do a reading with my cards. I will ask them a yes/no question, interpret their answer and point out all the symbols on each card. I'm curious to see what my cards have to say! I don't usually use spreads and I use 3 cards for yes/no questions. Reversed cards are no, upright cards are yes, the moon is a no regardless of the other cards and the sun is a yes regardless of the other cards. I can (as in this instance today) assign positions to the cards but usually I look at the big picture and then pick each card apart. In the reading today, I assigned intent to 3 different positions. Deck used http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/illuminati/ The reading (click!) Cards left to right: The Devil, 8 of Pentacles, 4 of Swords (rev) I had to laugh at the reading. The reply is the deck most likely enjoyed working with me but the 4 of Swords is a qualifying statement. This deck has always had a sense of humor! Without knowing the intent of the positions assigned to the cards, this is my immediate take. I love Devil cards, they are the top 3 of my most favorite cards (Devil, Moon and Temperance). I think it is my deck's nod to my proclivities. The deck knew I was using it to hone my skills as a reader. Back in my early days, I used the deck all the time, day after day. What I did was ask it questions and threw the answers out to the universe. I did this for hours. I feel the reason the 4 of Swords is reversed is because I used the deck so much and wore it out! It also brings up the Devil as my source of obsession and I kept the deck in service as long as the cards allowed me—then finally begged me for rest. After I gained confidence, I did purchase many more decks and the Illuminati finally got the rest it wanted and needed. Now, if I'm doing a multiple readings at a time, I never use the same deck. Every reading gets it's own deck to avoid deck fatigue! The reading: 1) Did you enjoy my intent when I queried? The Devil. Early on I had trouble voicing my intent. I felt many times I confused the cards but they knew I was asking for a reply. Knowing what I know now, I'm sure they felt enslaved to me and they HAD to reply in a way I would understand but it was difficult for them because my intent of the reading was not clear enough for them and they felt trapped. 2) Did you enjoy the purpose I asked of you? 8 of Pentacles. The reply is very clear. They understood I was learning and working on my skills all the time and their reply today made me feel really happy I didn't betray them. I learned so much from the deck. 3) Did you enjoy your messages to me? Again I feel I wore these cards out and in turn I wore myself out as well. For a solid year I lived and breathed the tarot, 24/7. If I wasn't working at my table doing universal readings I was watching tarot videos. But after 3 concentrated months of exclusive use, the deck did get a rest as I purchased more decks and moved on expanding my skills with new decks. My Illuminati finally got the rest it deserved! Now for the symbols on each card of the reading. The Devil 1. Colors – This devil does not wear Prada, it wears red. A passive blue surrounds the red showing the aggression of the Devil but the passivity of bondage from the humans. 2. Chains represent a situation we have become a slave to such as thoughts, vices or to others. 3. The Devil represents spiritual blindness and temptation. 4. Nudity indicates ego is dissolved and laid bare. Nudity expresses transforming to higher selves. After the Devil card, many decks finish with naked trump cards indicating there is no longer a place for false modesty, hiding anything from ourselves or each other, or protection from forces and processes we encounter along the way. This journey past the Devil asks that we face each step honestly and openly. 5. Where they are looking. The Devil faces forward with dominance in his face. The images reminds me of Xerxes in the movie, 300. 8 of Pentacles 1. Colors are red and orange and indicate a passion for what he's doing but with a playful side when he's not working. (At least I like to think that). 2. He's looking down indicating a more passive, meditative state—he's in the zone! He's intent on what he's doing and loving it. 3. Brick wall in the background indicates to not hold ourselves back or sell ourselves short, appropriate for the card. 4. The bench reminds us to take a moment to examine the details; that the querent needs to sit back, relax and take the time to examine or enjoy the situations laid out in the reading. 5. Fire is the symbol of creative and destructive power. In this card it is the energy, passion, ambition and inspiration the card represents. 6. This particular card does not have a hammer, it has fire instead. A hammer can symbolize that we need to get the job done and do it well. 4 of Pentacles 1. Stained Glass is a symbol of perception and how our vision (mental, physical and spiritual) can change according to our perception and beliefs. Looking through the glass points out the need to be honest about perceptions of situations. Seeing clearly or through rose colored glasses? 2. Arches as openings or passageways. A new direction indicated by the reading. 3. The Coffin (Tomb) represents laying to rest the thoughts and things that no longer serve us. This can also be a coming out symbol—as we are coming out of a tomb-like state of mind. After stagnation this symbolizes evolution from a stagnant state to an awakened state and a new phase of understanding. 4. Orange and red colors are healing powers and desire. 5. Snake [skin] on the clothing. Snake [skin] is about renewal, rebirth and development. Snakes shed their skin to grow just as coming out of stagnation helps us grow. I have enjoyed spending my time with this deck today and learned a lot more about symbolism in cards! SaturnCeleste, I love the level of detail and erudition in your reading. If this one is what an average one is like for ypu, then I applaud how much effort you pour in them. I also like how you interpreted the cards. Most of all tho, what I'm taking away from this is that a careful dissection of the symbols in a card can give one's readings more nuance and depth, making them even more vivid. I don't often give that much focus on the symbolism of the cards I draw, so I am taking note of this. One more thing, I have always been interested in the efficacy of Yes/No spreads. How often do you employ the Y/N methodology you used in this reading, and how accurate do you find it? Thanks!
Saturn Celeste Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 SaturnCeleste, I love the level of detail and erudition in your reading. If this one is what an average one is like for ypu, then I applaud how much effort you pour in them. I also like how you interpreted the cards. Most of all tho, what I'm taking away from this is that a careful dissection of the symbols in a card can give one's readings more nuance and depth, making them even more vivid. I don't often give that much focus on the symbolism of the cards I draw, so I am taking note of this. One more thing, I have always been interested in the efficacy of Yes/No spreads. How often do you employ the Y/N methodology you used in this reading, and how accurate do you find it? Thanks! VGimlet[/member] thank you I love doing voice work! One thing I can say, I'm not afraid to talk on the mic when I start my video series. ;) EmpyreanKnight[/member] I enjoyed your comments very much. :D I bought the Illuminati for symbolism, back then I felt it held a lot of meanings per card. I use yes/no questions all the time. I might have a client with a couple of questions that are y/n and I'll do a 3 card reading for each question. There are at least 6 major ways of doing a y/n question. Some use 5 or 6 cards, some use less. I think I read somewhere you like John Ballantrae. He has a few y/n videos that are really good to watch. For me, it is the intent you put in your question. I know a common practice is to count the middle card twice, so if it's reversed and is a no, then it would be 2 no's. I don't care to do it that way, I would rather do a 4 card y/n spread than counting a card twice. My way is kind of cobbled together with a complicated original version that is excellent and does not use any reversals. If I have a deck that does not like reversals, then I'll use the complicated version because it's so thorough. I have to use the instructions when I do that spread but it does feature the moon as no and the sun as yes and I have adopted that to my intent. I do have trouble reading minimal decks. I don't have hardly any. To me the symbols, color and action on the cards are as important as the card's meaning. For me, to use a minimal deck I rely simply on my knowledge of the RW version of each card so why use a minimal deck then? I would prefer the RW deck if I'm going to use the RW meanings. Marseille decks are like that to me except for the Medieval Scapini deck. Even though the pips aren't totally illustrated in a sense they actually are and I love the deck for that. But with Marseilles decks at least you have lovely trump cards. A bare minimal deck doesn't have that so I guess I avoid buying those kind of decks. :-[
Saturn Celeste Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Thanks for your thorough reply, SaturnCeleste! And now I'm curious about that complicated Y/N version lol. Also, VGimlet just upped a new Deck of the Week thread HERE. You may want to join us if you don't have a lot on your plate. :) I'll have to pass next week but I'll join up again when thing quiet down. I have some readings coming up in the next few days also so I'm booked up for now. I will post that y/n version in my journal in the next few days for you.
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Thanks for your thorough reply, SaturnCeleste! And now I'm curious about that complicated Y/N version lol. Also, VGimlet just upped a new Deck of the Week thread HERE. You may want to join us if you don't have a lot on your plate. :) I'll have to pass next week but I'll join up again when thing quiet down. I have some readings coming up in the next few days also so I'm booked up for now. I will post that y/n version in my journal in the next few days for you. It's all good, but only do so when you have the time, alright? All the best on next week's readings, SaturnCeleste. :)
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