#32 Moon Card - appearing repeatedly in Real Estate topic. Thoughts? Conjectures?

[Misterei]

I've recently done several spreads regarding Real Estate and Moon has been a repeater. It appears in the center of the line or similar position which suggests it as the most important card.

Texts give Moon as reputation and fame; for some, it's their employment card; for others, it relates to emotions.

NONE of these classical meanings prepares me for Moon appearing repeatedly in spreads regarding a RE transaction.

 

It makes sense per astrology. Moon is karaka of Houses and Homes. But LN is secular--not occult.

 

Yes, there are emotions involved, residential RE can be an emotional business. Yes, there is work involved. Option #1 would be a vacation rental. Option #2 would be a renovation project. Both are work [but usually Anchor or Fish are my work cards]. Yes reputations are involved b/c RE depends on relationships. But it's not like I'm an influencer where my reputation *is* my work.

 

Thus it feels odd to see Moon as a central card in real estate questions.

Not house [literal and obvious]. Not bear [investments]. Not Ship [a business venture in a distant locale]. Not Stork [moving house or new reno project]. Nope. Moon. Like 3-4 times now.

 

Anyone see this before? Any ideas?

I don't want to post the individual spreads. This isn't about the spreads. My question is general: why is the Moon showing up as a real estate card?

 

Edited June 18, 2024 by Misterei

[joy]

That is indeed interesting. However, as Lenormand is really only read in pairs, it is difficult to say, what it really means. For me the Moon is recognition and fame and neither emotion nor my work card. How about 'recognizing' something? Would that fit?

[Misterei]

On 6/18/2024 at 6:38 AM, joy said:

That is indeed interesting. However, as Lenormand is really only read in pairs, it is difficult to say, what it really means. For me the Moon is recognition and fame and neither emotion nor my work card. How about 'recognizing' something? Would that fit?

The various other cards confirmed that Moon was, indeed, on-topic for our RE plans.

 

I watched a YT video last night that gave an interesting take on the Moon card. I'm starting to feel that Moon [in this case] relates to emotional and creative fulfillment from work. The recognition aspect didn't hit which was part of what perplexed me. The only way we *might* say it hits is that even the tiniest changes to appearance require posting new photos on the Air BnB page. But this is far in the future for an apartment we've not even bought yet.

 

Taking Moon as a work card [which is new for me, but not unheard of] then it *does* hit with the spreads as I worry that I would get no creative satisfaction from the work; and I really desire creative satisfaction from my work.

Edited June 21, 2024 by Misterei

[akiva]

On 6/18/2024 at 3:40 AM, Misterei said:

Thus it feels odd to see Moon as a central card in real estate questions.

Not house [literal and obvious]. Not bear [investments]. Not Ship [a business venture in a distant locale]. Not Stork [moving house or new reno project]. Nope. Moon. Like 3-4 times now.

 

Anyone see this before? Any ideas?

I don't want to post the individual spreads. This isn't about the spreads. My question is general: why is the Moon showing up as a real estate card?

The Moon can show the querents (or others) interests and fascinations. I think this is a product of the fame aspect of this card. It can also show us things that stand out or impress us. Could it be that there's a condo/home that is or will stand out from the rest? It can also be the lunar month as timing and our hobbies too.

 

Literally anything that piques our interests 😁

 

16 hours ago, Misterei said:

The only way we *might* say it hits is that even the tiniest changes to appearance require posting new photos on the Air BnB page. But this is far in the future for an apartment we've not even bought yet.

This is part of what the Moon represents. It's all about how things appear to others or you. 

 

16 hours ago, Misterei said:

I worry that I would get no creative satisfaction from the work; and I really desire creative satisfaction from my work. I value beauty and creativity and I'm dealing with 100% money people.

This is kind of a Moon thing too, as it can represent our self esteem 🤔

[Misterei]

On 6/19/2024 at 12:12 AM, akiva said:

The Moon can show the querents (or others) interests and fascinations. I think this is a product of the fame aspect of this card. It can also show us things that stand out or impress us. Could it be that there's a condo/home that is or will stand out from the rest? It can also be the lunar month as timing and our hobbies too.

Yes. Ive reflected along these lines. 1 month hits b/c Escrow is normally 1 month.

Certainly this complex *stood out* from our other options, although I took that more from Key than Moon [Key has also appeared several times].

As far as interests and fascinations, that hits. see below comments.

On 6/19/2024 at 12:12 AM, akiva said:

Literally anything that piques our interests

This is part of what the Moon represents. It's all about how things appear to others or you. 

This is kind of a Moon thing too, as it can represent our self esteem 🤔

This ended up being more about T than myself. See below.

Edited June 21, 2024 by Misterei

[Misterei]

Update & Accuracy Report:  The Moon is fickle.

 

Everything I wrote previously is wrong. And right. More miss for me and hit for T.

Hits:  Moon is *definitely* emotional satisfaction from Work. Also a 1-month time frame.

 

Misses:  After meeting the Realtor yesterday, I got the actual numbers on this property. The profit margin is terrible. It's *not* a money maker. At best and God Willing it's a vacation get-away that will break even. The margins are eaten up by tax and management fees. *sigh*.

 

Tower was also a repeating card which I sort-of glossed over as the inevitable legalities of Escrow. But it was a warning about the administrative and tax fees. 40% of the gross goes to tax and admin. And this is before expenses.

 

T. started-out being the *money person* then experienced a reversal and made an emotional fulfillment decision. [Moon].

I very UN-emotionally advised against it based-on the numbers for admin/tax costs. [Tower].

Edited June 21, 2024 by Misterei

[akiva]

Wow so the Moon was more for emotional satisfaction and a months timing. Maybe the fickleness is because it appeared in several spreads? If it appears in multiple spreads, chances are it displayed multiple meanings too depending on the context and combinations 🤔

 

On 6/21/2024 at 4:19 AM, Misterei said:

T. started-out being the *money person* then experienced a reversal and made an emotional fulfillment decision. [Moon].

I very UN-emotionally advised against it based-on the numbers for admin/tax costs. [Tower].

Moon and Tower could be "seperation from what interests us" basically moving away from the idea. I know some people see Tower as government/institutions, but it can represent distancing from something. 

[Misterei]

10 hours ago, akiva said:

Moon and Tower could be "seperation from what interests us" basically moving away from the idea. I know some people see Tower as government/institutions, but it can represent distancing from something. 

I recenently watched a YT where the LN teacher mentioned that students often found both Moon and Tower to be "mute" cards. I.e. the cards don't seem to speak in a loud distinctive voice.

 

Most of the nuances you mentioned for the Moon *were* present [fascinations, interests, etc], but I had to boil it down to what was specific in a RE/business context to get that "loud & clear" voice for the card. Thus, Moon as emotional satisfaction and self esteem from work and/or 1 month distills this complex card down to keywords that applied in the RE/business context [for me, anyway 😉]

 

Vis a vis Tower it was too easy to dismiss it as "of course Tower is there, there's paperwork and buraucracy. Visits to the Escrow office, etc.".

When actually the card was warning about severe taxes and admin fees.

So perhaps Tower is a bit "mute". The other cards tended toward favorable, so I didn't see Tower as a warning. But I'm starting to think that in BUSINESS spreads, it's NOT a favorable card [in spite of being a Spade]. For most small business people, Tower is *never* a good sign if I'm honest.

 

Vis a vis your comments about Moon & Tower together. Yes this hits. When I observed the Tower as Tax and Admin killing the profit margin--I experienced immediate emotional distancing/separation from the project.

Edited June 22, 2024 by Misterei

[akiva]

On 6/22/2024 at 7:55 PM, Misterei said:

I recenently watched a YT where the LN teacher mentioned that students often found both Moon and Tower to be "mute" cards. I.e. the cards don't seem to speak in a loud distinctive voice.

This is probably due to people coming from tarot, so makes total sense! We all get mute cards, for me it's Tree 😆

 

On 6/22/2024 at 7:55 PM, Misterei said:

Most of the nuances you mentioned for the Moon *were* present [fascinations, interests, etc], but I had to boil it down to what was specific in a RE/business context to get that "loud & clear" voice for the card. Thus, Moon as emotional satisfaction and self esteem from work and/or 1 month distills this complex card down to keywords that applied in the RE/business context [for me, anyway 😉]

It's a card that varies quite greatly depending on the author/reader. I was reading a few French sources yesterday that focused on it being about the emotional sphere. It seems to be a common way it's viewed in their circles. 

 

On 6/22/2024 at 7:55 PM, Misterei said:

So perhaps Tower is a bit "mute". The other cards tended toward favorable, so I didn't see Tower as a warning. But I'm starting to think that in BUSINESS spreads, it's NOT a favorable card [in spite of being a Spade]. For most small business people, Tower is *never* a good sign if I'm honest.

I've always found the Tower to be tricky. I kind of see it as neutral, as it really depends on the cards around it to 'flavour' it. For me it's essence is distance, solitude, seperation and old. In business this isn't something you'd generally want, but it can add a long lasting element to something, which can be good.

 

Was the Tower the last card at all? That could explain the warning 🤔

[Misterei]

On 6/24/2024 at 12:34 AM, akiva said:

This is probably due to people coming from tarot, so makes total sense! We all get mute cards, for me it's Tree 😆

I think this teacher also included Tree on her list of "mute" cards. For me, as I've done so many health readings, Tree=health. I know it can be more complex---but when I impose that limit it clarifies the card.

On 6/24/2024 at 12:34 AM, akiva said:

It's a card that varies quite greatly depending on the author/reader. I was reading a few French sources yesterday that focused on it being about the emotional sphere. It seems to be a common way it's viewed in their circles. 

Yes. I think I'm taking a hybrid approach to Moon. Like Heart is 100% emotional card. But Moon is the emotional aspects of reputation, self esteem, and work interests / recognition.

On 6/24/2024 at 12:34 AM, akiva said:

I've always found the Tower to be tricky. I kind of see it as neutral, as it really depends on the cards around it to 'flavour' it. For me it's essence is distance, solitude, seperation and old. In business this isn't something you'd generally want, but it can add a long lasting element to something, which can be good.

Yep. Tower is tricky. I *do* call it a mute card LOL it's the card's very nature to not be talkative 😆

I'm at the stage of LN studies where I'm developing card meanings in context. A process I did for Tarot many years ago.

 

This was one thing that threw me off. The cards around Tower *were* fairly positive. So, for example, in a health reading I would take Tower + positive cards = decent outcome from hospital visits, or decent outcome with your insurance approval. As the card of government red tape, I think that Tower is *always* negative in small business. Small business depends on close personal relationships. Tower is impersonal and uncaring government or corporate interests which are inimical to small business. The positive cards may mitigate it---but it's never good for small Business. Just my take. ymmv.

On 6/24/2024 at 12:34 AM, akiva said:

Was the Tower the last card at all? That could explain the warning 🤔

Hard to remember. It appeared in various positions in various spreads. Good point, though.

Edited June 25, 2024 by Misterei

[akiva]

45 minutes ago, Misterei said:

I think this teacher also included Tree on her list of "mute" cards. For me, as I've done so many health readings, Tree=health. I know it can be more complex---but when I impose that limit it clarifies the card.

See for me it would appear in readings that weren't based on health, so it would always leave me scratching my head!

 

45 minutes ago, Misterei said:

Yes. I think I'm taking a hybrid approach to Moon. Like Heart is 100% emotional card. But Moon is the emotional aspects of reputation, self esteem, and work interests / recognition.

I was going to ask you about how you saw Heart if Moon was emotions too 🤣 the French sources I read also have Moon as reputation too, and heart as feelings, love and affection. 

 

1 hour ago, Misterei said:

This was one thing that threw me off. The cards around Tower *were* fairly positive. So, for example, in a health reading I would take Tower + positive cards = decent outcome from hospital visits, or decent outcome with your insurance approval. As the card of government red tape, I think that Tower is *always* negative in small business. Small business depends on close personal relationships. Tower is impersonal and uncaring government or corporate interests which are inimical to small business. The positive cards may mitigate it---but it's never good for small Business. Just my take. ymmv.

See this is interesting because Tower can be good and bad for relationships too, it can show a long term relationship, but also a distancing of love too. It really is a nuanced card!

[Misterei]

6 minutes ago, akiva said:

See for me it would appear in readings that weren't based on health, so it would always leave me scratching my head!

LOL as my health has been so sh*t for the past 18 months, health is ALWAYS a factor in ANY reading. But, yes. I might encounter this issue if I start seriously reading LN for clients.

6 minutes ago, akiva said:

See this is interesting because Tower can be good and bad for relationships too, it can show a long term relationship, but also a distancing of love too. It really is a nuanced card!

LOL I have to say, after a month of sharing small spaces and small beds with my beloved who snores like a freight train and talks ALL THE F&CKING TIME---well, let's just say a little Tower energy can be a good thing for old people in a long relationship 🤣

[akiva]

25 minutes ago, Misterei said:

LOL as my health has been so sh*t for the past 18 months, health is ALWAYS a factor in ANY reading. But, yes. I might encounter this issue if I start seriously reading LN for clients.

As horrible as bad health is, at least it helps clear the cards up. It's so frustrating having Tree pop up in a spread that's not health based 😆

 

27 minutes ago, Misterei said:

LOL I have to say, after a month of sharing small spaces and small beds with my beloved who snores like a freight train and talks ALL THE F&CKING TIME---well, let's just say a little Tower energy can be a good thing for old people in a long relationship 🤣

This made me laugh, my partner snores too, I feel like I need a support group sometimes. Definitely agree about the Tower in that context 🤣