Misterei Posted August 15, 2024 Posted August 15, 2024 I've seen different methods for reading the *corners* of a Tableau. My question is about a 6x6 GT --- but I think it applies to any type of tableau. Let's call the corners: A, B for the top and X, Y for the bottom [left to right] Do YOU read AB XY [i.e. top pair and bottom pair] or AY BX [criss cross] maybe even ABYX [a circle] What is your favorite method?
DanielJUK Posted August 15, 2024 Posted August 15, 2024 I do criss cross, I like the corners to be opposites 🙂 I have seen the Z method like a circle done as well
joy Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 And I do a circle. Starting with A and finishing with X.
Rose Lalonde Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 Criss-cross is how I learned, so I use that, but I think what really matters for me is just sticking with one method for this (no swapping it on the fly to avoid/create a certain message).
dancing_moon Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 I do criss cross. I generally see AY as more important (the first + the last card of the GT).
Misterei Posted August 16, 2024 Author Posted August 16, 2024 I ended up doing pairs: AB XY Most people seem to do criss cross but for some reason I bug on that. No idea why.
vendrazi Posted Tuesday at 05:53 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:53 PM I'm currently taking a class with Serge Pirotte and have learned AY BX (in 3x3 and GT).
Moon-Hermit Posted yesterday at 10:39 AM Posted yesterday at 10:39 AM I read a circle (ABYX) when I’m looking at the flow of external events and how they’re going to play out in the situation. I criss cross when I’m summing up a reading (AY, BX). This usually happens in a smaller spread like the 3*3 portrait. Because the timespan of a Grand Tableau is really broad, the corner cards are going to frame a broad theme as well, so I rarely use that method to sum up a grand tableau. Since I use the 8*4+4 formation, I look at the bottom four cards (the fate line) to see the outcome of a reading. I don’t stick to any one set method, because there are different ways to see each situation. If the cards speak to me in horizontal pairs (as in AB, XY or AX, BY) or zigzags I’ll use them accordingly. 16 hours ago, vendrazi said: I'm currently taking a class with Serge Pirotte and have learned AY BX (in 3x3 and GT). Lucky you! He’s a great teacher 🙂 I think he uses the method of distance…? AY and BX is frequently used in that system because you’re looking at where your cards fall primarily. So AY has greater impact than BX does because you’re moving from up to lower right. In the method of distance, cards that fall in the upper rows and to the right have more power.
vendrazi Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM 2 hours ago, Moon-Hermit said: Lucky you! He’s a great teacher 🙂 I think he uses the method of distance…? AY and BX is frequently used in that system because you’re looking at where your cards fall primarily. So AY has greater impact than BX does because you’re moving from up to lower right. In the method of distance, cards that fall in the upper rows and to the right have more power. No, Serge uses the Houses (or, at least, that's what he's taught us), although I guess there are elements that have come in from MOD, because that shows the flow of energy, then BX, although he reads them altogether as one element. He's also taught us that the focus cards in the center are just the cards in Garden and Mountain, not the four there, because with an 8x4+4 board those are the only central cards.
Moon-Hermit Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, vendrazi said: No, Serge uses the Houses (or, at least, that's what he's taught us), although I guess there are elements that have come in from MOD, because that shows the flow of energy, then BX, although he reads them altogether as one element. Oh, okay. His practice would be similar to Rana George’s then (at least from what I’ve seen in her book). Andy Boroveshengra and Lisa Young Sutton use the MOD, though Lisa has recently been incorporating the Houses in her videos too. I use both, and I think it would be beneficial to know both sides and then combine or pick & choose your methods as they suit your context. As for the criss-cross, yes, you’ll ultimately read both diagonals as a whole. In my personal practice I just mention to the reader that AY diagonal’s influence holds more finality than BX does. 3 hours ago, vendrazi said: He's also taught us that the focus cards in the center are just the cards in Garden and Mountain, not the four there, because with an 8x4+4 board those are the only central cards. Interesting view! Thanks for sharing it. He also views the four bottom cards as an additional row, then. When I’m doing readings, I only see four rows, hence why I read the central four cards in the houses of Birds + Child + Garden + Mountain. I won’t read the bottom four cards until the very end of the reading; in other words when I’m done examining the whole 8*4 tableau, I read those additional cards as a line which is the conclusion/what comes to pass. It’s always best to experiment and see what works for you. Edited 23 hours ago by Moon-Hermit
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