Does anyone here use the Tarot of Mystical Moments, by Catrin Welz-Stein

[Chariot]

Just wondering if anybody  here uses the Tarot of Mystical Moments, by Catrin Welz-Stein.

I have been tempted by this deck many times, but am not sure that I would be able to use it in readings because the images are so strange.  Beautiful, but strange.  I have looked at the flip-through offerings on YouTube many times and am still not sure.  I actually find the Minor Arcana cards more readable than the Majors, which is not the way this usually goes for me!

I think what I need is a review of the deck.  I see it's listed in our Deck Library, but there is no review.  Is there anybody here who uses the deck and is willing to share their opinion of it as a reading deck? 

[DanielJUK]

There is a thread discussing it in the past on the forum with some insights by forum members....

 

(It's fine to have a second thread discussing this deck 🙂 )

[gregory]

I imagine I'm in that thread - I absolutely DO use it.

 

Checked back: I see I only said I was going to use it. Well, I do, and I love it; it works really well, for me.

Edited September 25, 2024 by gregory

[Bodhiseed]

This is one of those decks that normally wouldn't ping my radar, but a friend encouraged me to get it. I find the odd images actually help with my reading (while I have a framework of tarot meanings, I tend to read intuitively).  I've got no regrets with this one!

Here's a few uses of it on my blog if you're interested:

By the Sycamore Tree: Search results for tarot of mystical moments

 

Edited September 26, 2024 by Bodhiseed

[Nemia]

I used this deck for my ancestral readings. I worked through Nany Hendrickson's wonderful book systematically, and the two main decks I used to do the readings were the Anna K. and Mystical Moments (I'm a German so these two decks just clicked for me). The imagery is a bit crazy but very evocative. I should take it out more often! 

 

 

Just look at that amazing family tree. Me, my parents and my grandparents. This has told me so many stories, and I have understood aspects of their characters that were hidden to me before. It was a magical experience. 

[FindYourSovereignty]

I see from the previous thread on this that there were questions regarding the card choices. I will pull the guidebook out and see what is shared there. I cannot do this until tomorrow.

 

Overall, I am quite pleased with this deck and look forward to using it as @Nemia did for going through Nancy Hendrickson's Ancestral books.

[FindYourSovereignty]

On 9/25/2024 at 2:51 PM, Chariot said:

Just wondering if anybody  here uses the Tarot of Mystical Moments, by Catrin Welz-Stein.

I have been tempted by this deck many times, but am not sure that I would be able to use it in readings because the images are so strange.  Beautiful, but strange.  I have looked at the flip-through offerings on YouTube many times and am still not sure.  I actually find the Minor Arcana cards more readable than the Majors, which is not the way this usually goes for me!

I think what I need is a review of the deck.  I see it's listed in our Deck Library, but there is no review.  Is there anybody here who uses the deck and is willing to share their opinion of it as a reading deck? 

 

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My one concern, is the strange male/female vibe I get from this deck. On one hand, the deck seems very female-oriented, even to the extent of having a female Emperor as well as a male Emperor card, and two KIng cards for each suit as well—one male and one female card. Okay, interesting idea. But why? And why not a male and female card for the other three court cards as well? If this deck is intended for women to use, why the occasional token male? And if it's a 'for everybody' deck, why are the figures mostly female?  

 

I haven't done a count, but the deck seems to depict mostly females. Not sure what that's all about. Does anybody know the thinking behind this issue, as related to these cards? It's almost like the RWS system turned on its head ...and neither system portrays the 50-50-ish split that is the real world. Not sure what this is trying to say, because it seems a deliberate choice on the part of the artist ...otherwise why the double King and Emperor cards? I would find it difficult to assume gender-neutrality with this deck ...as in 'this card can represent a male or a female and any other gender.'  

 

I don't have access to the accompanying book, which might serve to explain the choices the artist made. I'd be interested in hearing about them.

 

(Just for reference, I did a count via a flip-through. The Emperor card and the four King cards all include a second 'female' card in the deck. One card I'm not sure about ...the 8 of Swords. It's not clear whether the image is of a man or a woman. Of all the other cards, only four depict male figures - 7 of Wands, 3 of Swords, Page of Swords and 10 of Pentacles. And why THESE cards in particular?)

 

I finally had a moment to pull the deck out and look at the manual. I believe several of us have shared the readibility of the deck so I will attempt to provide different information.

 

In the guidebook, there is an introduction from the creator which states, "Most of the cards I originally designed for this deck depicted the tarot scene from a female point of view. But since the tarot should reflect a more inclusive perspective, I added traditionally male figures for the Kings and some Minor Arcana cards." 

 

The artist also shares that she "... tried to develop my own personal stories and interpretations for the cards." In the Minor Arcana she kept the traditional suit names, but used different objects as symbols in each card. For example the Nine of Swords has nine pairs of eyes in the image and the Two of Swords has two birds; the Three of Cups has three hoola-hoops and the Five of Wands has 5 chess pieces. There does not appear to be any specific rhyme or reason to her choice of symbol used for each card, i.e. she also uses birds in the Six of Wands.

 

In the guidebook for each card she describes the image and symbolism reflecting the energy and message in the card along with an upright and revese meaning.

 

The edges have silver gilding. The cards can be riffle-shuffled, but not comfortably as they are a bit stiff as a full deck. The cards measure 3.25"x5" and are borderless except the bottom border for name and number.

 

There is one spread example near the end of the guidebook along with a brief About the artist details of how Catrin Welz-Stein started on her digital art journey.

 

And the 8 of Swords is referenced as a Human Angel "... he is unable to see the way out..."

 

 

Edited March 10 by FindYourSovereignty