Does anyone know what deck this is?

[Raggydoll]

Ok, so I bought this deck pre-loved and I know nothing about it. The box has no information regarding manufacturer. The deck has 80 cards, and it has a historical style to it. Every card has titles in four languages, but I must admit that I am not 100% sure which languages they are (although I am perfectly able to discern which card is which anyhow). Some of the cards have a banner with some words on them, I will add pictures of that as well.

 

So, please, any information you guys can give me (about anything really!) is welcome! I am thinking that this is a mass produced deck and that it perhaps is slavic?

 

The images are really lovely and quite interesting. And I really like the artistic style.

 

The first two pics are of the box and the back of the cards

[Raggydoll]

Here are some of the majors. I know that these pictures are not the best, I struggled with lighting and had to resize them as well  :-\

[Raggydoll]

Here are some wands. Its definitely a pip-styled deck. But I am really loving the court cards. Many of them look female, even some of the 'kings'

[Raggydoll]

Here is a close up of the text-banner, plus a picture of the two extra cards. It looks like it says "abm drove" on most cards, except for some of the cups cards, where it seems to say "amor mve". So, obviously this is not any language I recognise. Do any of you guys know what it means?

[Flaxen]

I don’t know what this exact deck is, but it looks like a version of the Visconti.

 

It’s very beautiful!

 

 

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[Raggydoll]

Thank you flaxen!

 

I'll try to add some more (better) pics

[Raggydoll]

Hopefully you can tell the languages better here!

[Flaxen]

Two of the languages are Polish and Czech....

 

Edited to add another is Hungarian.

 

Definitely a deck produced for the Eastern European market.

 

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[Raggydoll]

Flaxen: Thank you so much  <3 I have never worked with Visconti-sforza decks in the past so this is going to be interesting!

[Flaxen]

You’re welcome - I like a good mystery. [emoji16] Hopefully, someone can come along and actually name the deck...(so I can rush out and buy it).

 

 

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[gregory]

It seems to be included in a book by Jan Witold Suliga

 

http://www.taniaksiazka.pl/tarot-arkana-male-p-333769.html

 

Which reads (as well as "unavailable):

 

The book by Dr. Jan Witold Suliga on Small Arks Tarot with the FREE: attached Tarot cards, modeled on Viconti Sforza's waist.

 

Table of Contents:

 

    Introduction

    Esoteric symbolism of Little Initiations

    Kabbalistic symbolism of the Little Arkana

    Astrological Symbolism of Minor Initiations

    The predictive symbolism of the Little Arkana

    Bibliography

 

dr Jan Witold Suliga - ethnographer, cultural anthropologist, tarocist, PhD student at Ranchi University, Bihar, India. He has been dealing with tarot and kabala for nearly a quarter of a century. Writer, author of books devoted to the symbolism of the tarot, pagan beliefs of the Slavs, esoteric traditions of Europe. Therapist, founder and director of the Center for Spiritual Addiction Therapy. A man who discovered the secret code of the Marseilles tarot. He conducts courses and individual lessons on the methods and techniques of divination of tarot, esoteric and kabbalistic symbolism of tarot, spiritual work safety and mystical kabbalah. He implements series of lectures at the University of the Third Age. A fortune teller, for whom the tarot is not a secret.

 

There are two books, one majors and one minors.

 

I know someone who WILL know; I'll be back :)

[Raggydoll]

It seems to be included in a book by Jan Witold Suliga

 

http://www.taniaksiazka.pl/tarot-arkana-male-p-333769.html

 

Which reads (as well as "unavailable):

 

The book by Dr. Jan Witold Suliga on Small Arks Tarot with the FREE: attached Tarot cards, modeled on Viconti Sforza's waist.

 

Table of Contents:

 

    Introduction

    Esoteric symbolism of Little Initiations

    Kabbalistic symbolism of the Little Arkana

    Astrological Symbolism of Minor Initiations

    The predictive symbolism of the Little Arkana

    Bibliography

 

dr Jan Witold Suliga - ethnographer, cultural anthropologist, tarocist, PhD student at Ranchi University, Bihar, India. He has been dealing with tarot and kabala for nearly a quarter of a century. Writer, author of books devoted to the symbolism of the tarot, pagan beliefs of the Slavs, esoteric traditions of Europe. Therapist, founder and director of the Center for Spiritual Addiction Therapy. A man who discovered the secret code of the Marseilles tarot. He conducts courses and individual lessons on the methods and techniques of divination of tarot, esoteric and kabbalistic symbolism of tarot, spiritual work safety and mystical kabbalah. He implements series of lectures at the University of the Third Age. A fortune teller, for whom the tarot is not a secret.

 

There are two books, one majors and one minors.

 

I know someone who WILL know; I'll be back :)

 

This is so interesting, thank you!

[gregory]

I like the way it was modelled on Visconti Sforza's WAIST....

[Raggydoll]

I like the way it was modelled on Visconti Sforza's WAIST....

 

Yeah, I saw that too ;D I’m guessing that’s why I find these cards so perfectly sized  :))

[gregory]

I want it. I have mentioned this to my Eastern European contact :)

[Flaxen]

I want it. I have mentioned this to my Eastern European contact :)

If they’d like a bulk order....[emoji16]

[Raggydoll]

It looks like a store in my country has it, but it is labeled as back order so it’s not certain that they will be able to get it from their supplier. However, it is very inexpensive so I’m gonna take a chance and place an order. Wouldn’t mind a back up copy in case I feel

like trimming those multi title borders. So we shall see if they cancel my order or not, and if I managed to order the right thing  ^-^ I will keep you guys updated!

 

Ps. Just ordered two copies. Fingers crossed it’s the right thing and they are able to deliver, but it had 2-4 weeks estimated delivery time so we might have to wait some time to find out

[gregory]

If it works, you can get me one :)

[Raggydoll]

If it works, you can get me one :)

 

Maybe :). We will just have to wait and see, and if it works, we’ll talk  8)

[Celice]

Ooh I love this what a beautiful find. If anyone ever finds a source for a group order I would be interested

[Morsoth]

I was also looking for that deck (I created a new thread not knowing this one existed for the same deck!)

 

I could find some more info here (mainly screen captures) : https://tarotrengeteg.blogspot.ca/2016/11/tarot-jan-witold-suliga.html?m=0

[CharlotteK]

Seems to be one going here for about £7.50 from a Polish site - https://bit.ly/2HBB8NQ

 

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[gregory]

I would love to buy it - and did everything up to enter details - but it WILL not accept my UK phone number and I'm stuck. Help, someone ? Yes I tried with and without the +44, 44 and with and without the 0...

[gregory]

WAIT - I did it ! YAY ! Thanks Charlotte :)

[Saturn Celeste]

I love the watercolor splashes on the cards.  To me the color splashes are what make this deck so special, without it, it would be a nice historical deck.