HOLMES Posted September 18, 2018 Posted September 18, 2018 So, if you are working out the importance of FOCUS vs NOUNS with Cards 1 or 2 how would you view these: Heart and Snake Snake and Heart Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin Doing FOCUS and NOUNS and looking at 1 or 2. DND ---------------- i think the key thing to make a note of ,, i am refering to the central card in your 3 , 5 , 7, 9 cards lines.. that sometimes were chosen by "focus"aka praying/mediating with it and so is choosen to focus on the issue.. and your regular central card that isnt' chosen but is still the focus of the issue. it should be noted that beyond tarot world , aka donna teaches in her 3 card video that it is .. topic, does what, how so in this this excerise i suppose the topic will be switching place with does what not sure. anyways let's start. using the french cartomancy cards (cold heart snake by paula abdul comes to mind) Heart and Snake Snake and Heart focus card is the snake he loves the snake woman (jack and queen of clubs ) that sounds a little sexist i know .. the snake threatens the heart of the man (jack of hearts) in this sense i felt the onus was on the breaking of the heart.. perhaps python style. focus card the heart the loving heart is in danger from the snake the romance is in danger because the danger is real. the snake bites at the heart , the heart recieves willing. the dangerous woman opens her fangs to his heart which he recieves willing.. under the roses lenormand hence the coffine becomes the grave Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin focus card is the ring the ending is the promise . the promise of eternity never exists for time doesn't exist.. the ring the grave I promise you , you will end up in the grave ! my favourite part of dallas is when j.r. says "i will be there the day they put you in the ground ". focus card the grave i will marry you to the end.. some people are so powerful in love they really keep the promise of til death does us part. as i wrote this, imagine a person knowing their loved one is going to die,, but will marry anyways. ! grave ring despite the death,, i will risk loving you.. this here speaks of turmoilous times..i know i may be killed aka romeo ,, but still will follow my heart. numbers grave, ring 8 plus 25 active governor plus peacemaking empath , knowing freedome 8 2 5 active governor plus knowing logic from knowing peace, and empathic freedom. 8 7 25 active governor plus knowling logic =15 8 7 active will plus knowing freedom, 1 5 becomes thinking provider=6 so the coffin and ring makes us think that we will have to become thinking providers for those we love. snake, heart 7 26 knowing logic and empatchic pacemaker , thinking provider 7 2 6 knowing logic and active governor peacemaker because providers becomes governor,,and thinking empath becomes active 7 8 26 knowling logic and active govenor becomes active will plus knowing freedome 7 8 15 active knowing and willful freedom 15 becomes thinking provider= 6 the snake and the heart because of thinking provider because the snake owever dangerios is willing to go extremes to protect the heart.
DownUnderNZer Posted September 18, 2018 Posted September 18, 2018 Donna is one of the most loveliest and vibrant ladies one could learn from and I think there is no doubt she knows the Tarot in and out. However, with the Lenormand, her earlier stuff is her learning it and there are mistakes she makes. Even she will admit it. I think there is another book I mentioned to you that I learned of recently that I think is likely beyond Andy B and this man is also a Traditionalist. The book is expensive (both) , but somewhere it was mentioned to me or I may have read it. Perhaps both! He was actually at the same conventions as Donna, Rana and one other demoing the Lenormand. Let's just say they all did well, but he shone more than the others. His style is what I started out in and he does know it in and out from what I have been told. I might buy one of the books just to make sure as I would not want to recommend it unless I know for sure it is good material. Will look at what you just wrote properly now. So, if you are working out the importance of FOCUS vs NOUNS with Cards 1 or 2 how would you view these: Heart and Snake Snake and Heart Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin Doing FOCUS and NOUNS and looking at 1 or 2. DND ---------------- i think the key thing to make a note of ,, i am refering to the central card in your 3 , 5 , 7, 9 cards lines.. that sometimes were chosen by "focus"aka praying/mediating with it and so is choosen to focus on the issue.. and your regular central card that isnt' chosen but is still the focus of the issue. it should be noted that beyond tarot world , aka donna teaches in her 3 card video that it is .. topic, does what, how so in this this excerise i suppose the topic will be switching place with does what not sure. anyways let's start. using the french cartomancy cards (cold heart snake by paula abdul comes to mind) Heart and Snake Snake and Heart focus card is the snake he loves the snake woman (jack and queen of clubs ) that sounds a little sexist i know .. the snake threatens the heart of the man (jack of hearts) in this sense i felt the onus was on the breaking of the heart.. perhaps python style. focus card the heart the loving heart is in danger from the snake the romance is in danger because the danger is real. the snake bites at the heart , the heart recieves willing. the dangerous woman opens her fangs to his heart which he recieves willing.. under the roses lenormand hence the coffine becomes the grave Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin focus card is the ring the ending is the promise . the promise of eternity never exists for time doesn't exist.. the ring the grave I promise you , you will end up in the grave ! my favourite part of dallas is when j.r. says "i will be there the day they put you in the ground ". focus card the grave i will marry you to the end.. some people are so powerful in love they really keep the promise of til death does us part. as i wrote this, imagine a person knowing their loved one is going to die,, but will marry anyways. ! grave ring despite the death,, i will risk loving you.. this here speaks of turmoilous times..i know i may be killed aka romeo ,, but still will follow my heart.
DownUnderNZer Posted September 18, 2018 Posted September 18, 2018 Will have to do this when I get home tonight. If I knew this was going to be an extensive write up I would have brought my laptop along today. So, read through it, but need to make sense of what you have written so will have to it when I have the time to do it properly - tonight. DND <3 So, if you are working out the importance of FOCUS vs NOUNS with Cards 1 or 2 how would you view these: Heart and Snake Snake and Heart Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin Doing FOCUS and NOUNS and looking at 1 or 2. DND ---------------- i think the key thing to make a note of ,, i am refering to the central card in your 3 , 5 , 7, 9 cards lines.. that sometimes were chosen by "focus"aka praying/mediating with it and so is choosen to focus on the issue.. and your regular central card that isnt' chosen but is still the focus of the issue. it should be noted that beyond tarot world , aka donna teaches in her 3 card video that it is .. topic, does what, how so in this this excerise i suppose the topic will be switching place with does what not sure. anyways let's start. using the french cartomancy cards (cold heart snake by paula abdul comes to mind) Heart and Snake Snake and Heart focus card is the snake he loves the snake woman (jack and queen of clubs ) that sounds a little sexist i know .. the snake threatens the heart of the man (jack of hearts) in this sense i felt the onus was on the breaking of the heart.. perhaps python style. focus card the heart the loving heart is in danger from the snake the romance is in danger because the danger is real. the snake bites at the heart , the heart recieves willing. the dangerous woman opens her fangs to his heart which he recieves willing.. under the roses lenormand hence the coffine becomes the grave Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin focus card is the ring the ending is the promise . the promise of eternity never exists for time doesn't exist.. the ring the grave I promise you , you will end up in the grave ! my favourite part of dallas is when j.r. says "i will be there the day they put you in the ground ". focus card the grave i will marry you to the end.. some people are so powerful in love they really keep the promise of til death does us part. as i wrote this, imagine a person knowing their loved one is going to die,, but will marry anyways. ! grave ring despite the death,, i will risk loving you.. this here speaks of turmoilous times..i know i may be killed aka romeo ,, but still will follow my heart. numbers grave, ring 8 plus 25 active governor plus peacemaking empath , knowing freedome active governor plus knowing logic from knowing peace, and empathic freedom. active governor plus knowling logic =15 active will plus knowing freedom, becomes thinking provider .. so the coffin and ring makes us think that we will have to become thinking providers for those we love. snake, heart 7 26 knowing logic and empatchic pacemaker , thinking provider knowing logic and active governor because peacemaker and providers becomes governor,,and thinking empath becomes active knowling logic and active govenor becomes active will plus knowing freedome active knowing and willful freedome becomes. thinking provider the snake and the heart because of thinking provider because the snake owever dangerios is willing to go extremes to protect the heart.
DownUnderNZer Posted September 18, 2018 Posted September 18, 2018 HOLMES Going through it now to see if I get it. So, if you are working out the importance of FOCUS vs NOUNS with Cards 1 or 2 how would you view these: Heart and Snake Snake and Heart Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin Doing FOCUS and NOUNS and looking at 1 or 2. DND ---------------- i think the key thing to make a note of ,, i am refering to the central card in your 3 , 5 , 7, 9 cards lines.. that sometimes were chosen by "focus"aka praying/mediating with it and so is choosen to focus on the issue.. and your regular central card that isnt' chosen but is still the focus of the issue. so in this this excerise i suppose the topic will be switching place with does what not sure. anyways let's start. So, do you mean something like this for FOCUS: 1 Heart 2 SNAKE Crossroads 1 Snake 2 HEART Mountain Mountain 1 HEART 2 Snake Crossroads 1 SNAKE 2 Heart or 2 Heart 1 SNAKE Crossroads 2 Snake 1 HEART Mountain 1 being the central position followed by the 2 card or it being 2 with the 1 card coming before it? Or vice a versa and so forth. Heart and Snake Snake and Heart focus card is the snake he loves the snake woman (jack and queen of clubs ) that sounds a little sexist i know .. the snake threatens the heart of the man (jack of hearts) in this sense i felt the onus was on the breaking of the heart.. perhaps python style. focus card the heart the loving heart is in danger from the snake the romance is in danger because the danger is real. the snake bites at the heart , the heart recieves willing. the dangerous woman opens her fangs to his heart which he recieves willing.. So, the example you are going with is "relationships". SNAKE: Issues, trouble, risks, deceit, deviance. HEART: Emotions, love, feelings. Do you see what you have written here: 1) focus card the snake - the snake threatens the heart of the man (jack of hearts) 2) focus card the heart - the loving heart is in danger from the snake It is more or less the same thing. Only most times this little duo not only means issues, but it can indicate cheating. Whether it is HEART+SNAKE or SNAKE+HEART. I think whatever card(s) follows them, if any, is what needs to be looked at if they are indeed cards number 1 and 2. But if they are the last two - then it is just as it is - issues in a relationship and possible cheating. So, if CROSSROADS follows them - then multiples and likely separating. Complex choices. Wanting to play the field. The positions of the cards are important most of the time, but there are some combinations that pretty much mean the same thing. And this is one of those combos especially when it comes to the theme of relationships. under the roses lenormand hence the coffine becomes the grave Coffin and Ring Ring and Coffin focus card is the ring the ending is the promise . the promise of eternity never exists for time doesn't exist.. the ring the grave I promise you , you will end up in the grave ! my favourite part of dallas is when j.r. says "i will be there the day they put you in the ground ". focus card the grave i will marry you to the end.. some people are so powerful in love they really keep the promise of til death does us part. as i wrote this, imagine a person knowing their loved one is going to die,, but will marry anyways. ! grave ring despite the death,, i will risk loving you.. this here speaks of turmoilous times..i know i may be killed aka romeo ,, but still will follow my heart. numbers grave, ring 8 plus 25 active governor plus peacemaking empath , knowing freedome 8 2 5 active governor plus knowing logic from knowing peace, and empathic freedom. 8 7 25 active governor plus knowling logic =15 8 7 active will plus knowing freedom, 1 5 becomes thinking provider=6 so the coffin and ring makes us think that we will have to become thinking providers for those we love. Bugger ending up in a grave Holmes! Ouch! Eeek! That is taking a promise or marriage to a different level indeed. NOTE TO SELF: Continue to avoid as ending up in a grave is not your idea of the ideal relationship. X-D This is one combo that does need to be looked at a bit when it comes to relationships and/or marriage. One way does mean there could be getting back together and a reconciliation, but the other way means a definite end. On AT about 2-4 years ago there was one person that touched on this in either a 7 card spread or box of nine and although s/he was correct about the combo (getting back together) - s/he kind of did not put the whole spread together as those two cards were part of the first three cards and the cards that came after had an influence on the outcome which was putting across that it would not be so. E.g. Crossroads/Mountain. As for Numerology - I do not do it so cannot go there. snake, heart 7 26 knowing logic and empatchic pacemaker , thinking provider 7 2 6 knowing logic and active governor peacemaker because providers becomes governor,,and thinking empath becomes active 7 8 26 knowling logic and active govenor becomes active will plus knowing freedome 7 8 15 active knowing and willful freedom 15 becomes thinking provider= 6 the snake and the heart because of thinking provider because the snake owever dangerios is willing to go extremes to protect the heart. I like the idea of "thinking provider" and "empath", but the SNAKE is one of the most lethal cards of the Lenormand, but at least more obvious than the FOX. Together - watch out! I read somewhere earlier today something you wrote about reversals - yes, I have seen you do it and work with that way of doing them rather well. Keep doing it. DND <3
HOLMES Posted September 19, 2018 Author Posted September 19, 2018 1. 1 being the central position followed by the 2 card or it being 2 with the 1 card coming before it? Or vice a versa and so forth. i didn't think what was coming after or before.. that said,, one of them was definately the noun as the beginning,, and one of them was the central soo in a 3 card spread.. it would be more 1 2 cross 2 1 cross. 2. the example you are going with is "relationships". SNAKE: Issues, trouble, risks, deceit, deviance. HEART: Emotions, love, feelings. yes as it was designed to be a quikie,, i went with the danger with snake , and romance with heart. 3.the same thing almost,, the wording was the heart of the man of jack of hearts is a little differece.. see if you consider spiderman where the green goblien alter ego tells osborne "the heart , the heart " so it isnt' about breaking the heart romanatically it is about defeating the heart . like the movie rocky balboa the woman tells rocky "the last thing to go on a fighter is their heart." and rocky 5, adrian tells rocky " he doesn't have your heart". where in the second line "the loving heart" is in danger from the snake indicates a possible loss of romantic partner due to snake bite ! so the way i meant it,, it wasn't the same thing but i underwhat you are saying.. i remember doing my kipper study nine card,, and doing line of combos mostly said the same thing . 4. avoid ending up in the grave.. i know that tarot we are supposed to say , death isnt' death,, and in the lenormand ones says something is definately dying in the coffin/grave. so my attempt was to find various degrees in regards to the coffin.. but the idea to love forever despite death.. is true, some never remarry ! 5. I like the idea of "thinking provider" and "empath", i do not know if you been following my work with numerology and lenormand,, the titles for each number is still undergoing changes as i explore.. the thinking provider used to be thoughtful provider,, and empath has gone through "peaceful empath , peacemaking empath, to empathic peacemaker.. " one of these will stick with me..
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