devin Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 A while back My dad asked if I had any doodling suggestions for him. I passed on some tarot reference. He starting passing some lovely ink and brush drawings back and is now working his way through the majors. He's combing RWS and TdM elements as the fancy takes him. The effect is great, imo. The observant will notice that the TdM being referenced is the Jodo/Camoin. No plans for a deck as of yet. 🙂 Here's Strength and Temperance (previously posted in another thread): And here are the Star and the Sun: Plus an as yet uncoloured Judgement: More to follow.
gregory Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 So why are there no plans for a deck. Many of us have already demanded....
Decan Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Beautiful drawings! We can’t say that one is stronger than another, his work is constant. Likely he draws for a very long time. I’m pretty sure about that, no card needed! 🙂
Flaxen Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 These are beautiful drawings! His colour work is spectacular.
Starlight Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 These are BEAUTIFUL! He's very talented. I concur with Gregory, is there a deck in the pipeline?!
katrinka Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Those are excellent. And yes, people would BUY that! Do the Majors at the very least.
Starlight Posted June 24, 2020 Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, katrinka said: Those are excellent. And yes, people would BUY that! Do the Majors at the very least. 👍
devin Posted June 24, 2020 Author Posted June 24, 2020 Yeah, I think they're looking great too! I will pass on the kind vibes. As for a deck: I've thought this would be an interesting idea since he showed me the first card (Temperance). But 78 cards is quite a challenge, I reckon. Maybe majors only is a possibility. And since I've been reading majors (with aces) only lately, that would be okay by me. 🙂 Then again, he's so taken with the imagery and symbolism of the tarot that a full deck might take his fancy. I'll speak to him. That reddish purple is, I'm informed, mainly Solar Scarlet, sometimes overlaid with Mars Red. I've always loved his bold and unusual colour sense, but for years he's been more into black and white when working on a smaller scale. So thank you tarot for reintroducing some colour! Here's a piece of his from the 80s ( but the colour hasn't come out very well in the photo. Too blooming blue. 😒 ) : I'll post some more soon, hopefully. 🤞
devin Posted June 24, 2020 Author Posted June 24, 2020 Of course, if things work out, I/he have no idea how to go about self publishing a deck. We'd have to tap some of the brilliant minds hanging around this place.
geoxena Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 There are a number of good online resources for that when the time comes. I find Arnell Ando's guide on self-publishing a good starting point for researching how to do it. Plus asking the experts here, of course! How to Publish Your Own Tarot Deck
Decan Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) I saw people putting their deck on the MPC's shop, that way they don't have to deal directly with customers or dealing with worldwide shipping because from South Africa I guess this part could be a burden. I don't know what percentage they take on each sale, but it's likely better than what Amazon would take. You even don't need to have a website! Just a link besides your signature would be enough! May I suggest that you choose linen for the cardstock? (just in case you go in that direction in the future of course!) Edited June 25, 2020 by Decan
Raggydoll Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Decan said: I saw people putting their deck on the MPC's shop, that way they don't have to deal directly with customers or dealing with worldwide shipping because from South Africa I guess this part could be a burden. I don't know what percentage they take on each sale, but it's likely better than what Amazon would take. You even don't need to have a website! Just a link besides your signature would be enough! May I suggest that you choose linen for the cardstock? (just in case you go in that direction in the future of course!) Printerstudio takes 5% but it is automatically added to the price so you don't have to pay anything to sell through their site. So you basically list your item and then people can have it printed on demand. You get paid when the profit reaches 100 dollars (you decide your own profit margin). I am unsure how the other sites work.
Decan Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 Interesting to learn that. Well 5% isn't robbery in my opinion.
gregory Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Decan said: I saw people putting their deck on the MPC's shop, that way they don't have to deal directly with customers or dealing with worldwide shipping because from South Africa I guess this part could be a burden. I don't know what percentage they take on each sale, but it's likely better than what Amazon would take. You even don't need to have a website! Just a link besides your signature would be enough! May I suggest that you choose linen for the cardstock? (just in case you go in that direction in the future of course!) YES PLEASE ! 1 hour ago, Decan said: Interesting to learn that. Well 5% isn't robbery in my opinion. Yes - I find them pretty fair. And the drop shipping makes it a no-brainer !
offramp Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 Those ink drawings are superb, but I think your Dad should have a good look at some other old Tarots before trying to create his own; then his deck would be truly original. One of the reasons I don't like the Dalí Tarot deck is because I don't believe he was an expert, and the deck may have been a money-making exercise😃. I'd rather use a naively drawn Tarot by an untalented expert than a brilliantly drawn Tarot by someone who is copying a previous deck
devin Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) On 6/25/2020 at 4:59 AM, geoxena said: There are a number of good online resources for that when the time comes. I find Arnell Ando's guide on self-publishing a good starting point for researching how to do it. Plus asking the experts here, of course! How to Publish Your Own Tarot Deck Thank you. Some very useful reading to be had. On 6/25/2020 at 7:37 AM, Decan said: I saw people putting their deck on the MPC's shop, that way they don't have to deal directly with customers or dealing with worldwide shipping because from South Africa I guess this part could be a burden. I don't know what percentage they take on each sale, but it's likely better than what Amazon would take. You even don't need to have a website! Just a link besides your signature would be enough! May I suggest that you choose linen for the cardstock? (just in case you go in that direction in the future of course!) On 6/25/2020 at 10:13 AM, Raggydoll said: Printerstudio takes 5% but it is automatically added to the price so you don't have to pay anything to sell through their site. So you basically list your item and then people can have it printed on demand. You get paid when the profit reaches 100 dollars (you decide your own profit margin). I am unsure how the other sites work. Print on demand services have to be one of the most impressive features of the internet age. Amazing, really. But I didn't know there was such a ready made infrastructure for printing tarots specifically. Double amazing! 5% is beyond reasonable. And, yeah, Decan, you're right, posting from South Africa would be a stumbling block. And you just can't beat linen.... 19 hours ago, offramp said: Those ink drawings are superb, but I think your Dad should have a good look at some other old Tarots before trying to create his own; then his deck would be truly original. One of the reasons I don't like the Dalí Tarot deck is because I don't believe he was an expert, and the deck may have been a money-making exercise😃. I'd rather use a naively drawn Tarot by an untalented expert than a brilliantly drawn Tarot by someone who is copying a previous deck Offramp, I'm almost exclusively a TdM reader, originality is not high on my priority list! 🙂 Seriously, though, I think the important thing to remember is that he didn't set out to do a deck and any such talk of one is still mostly hypothetical. That being said, I am enjoying the results of his endeavors. I concur with Ms. Gregory on Dali. Edited June 26, 2020 by devin
gregory Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, devin said: I concur with Ms. Gregory on Dali. Ms gregory did not refer to Dali. She referred to the idea of a person who really knows their tarot and can't draw creating a deck. The fact that they know their tarot does NOT make the result a good deck, it REALLY REALLY does NOT. The Dali amuses me, and I am well aware that he was almost certainly not much involved in its creation - that fell to Amanda Lear.
devin Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, gregory said: The Dali amuses me, and I am well aware that he was almost certainly not much involved in its creation - that fell to Amanda Lear. I did not know that. Well, I never. 4 minutes ago, gregory said: Ms gregory did not refer to Dali. She referred to the idea of a person who really knows their tarot and can't draw creating a deck. The fact that they know their tarot does NOT make the result a good deck, it REALLY REALLY does NOT. I agree with that too. Form and function, not easily separated (if at all).
devin Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, gregory said: A nice read for you then Dali article.pdf 367.72 kB · 0 downloads Being so out of date is a rather disconcerting feeling. Thanks for the read, though. Regardless, while the deck might be somewhat patchy, and despite the fact that I don't own a copy, it does have its successes. Edited June 26, 2020 by devin
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