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Yup. And Quabbalah is not my forte & I don't use it - although I do vagueley remember a most excellent presentation on pathworking with the Majors in this manner, given by the inestimable Suzanne Corbie. So - that's for you to tell us all about 🙃.

@KiMo How dare they get married during The Conference 🤣🤣.

@Marina Give me a while with the book. I haven't read it yet. As for the cards I've taken out... it's something to do with the image itself & also the card label not matching up with the image. 'Water' is depicted in a circle (there are ALOT of circles in the artwork) - & I find that annoying. 'Fire' is also in a circle - 🧐. 'Sacrifice' & 'The Giveaway' both have ladies "offering hands up to the sky" - & somehow neither of these say that adequately to me. I didn't like 'Thunder'... until I noticed that under the circle which is supposed to contain thunder (🙄), there is a group of running wilderbeast. Oh... they're not called wilderbeest... they're what?.... Gnus! Now - I can see how the sound of racing Gnus can be THUNDER 👊🏽 🙃 See what I mean? Your mileage may differ (as they say), depending on how the images strike you.

Actually I have found you a newer version. For a very good price indeed. You have PM.

There are decks with those images but where the images look rather poor quality - allegedly put out by ASS in 2003. I believe they are now part of Cartamundi. http://sova38.ru/index.php/galereya/lenorman-tsyganskie/88-lenormand-ass-2003?u but I can't see one for sale that looks "reliable"

Thank you both for your thoughts! I actually remembered the details incorrectly: it was a different deck I was gifted. This one I bought myself at a vintage fair, and I think I was aware the cards were missing before I bought it, I don’t remember exactly. The images must have appealed but I never read with it and put it away for many years because I thought it was useless incomplete. Just a silent part of my collection. I kept it in a random box (the cards were loose when I bought them) and I sort of rediscovered it by accident. And fell in love with it. My thinking now is that maybe the deck was meant to come to me with the two cards missing. That said, I have tried to source replacements. For now, I have only found complete decks for lots of money. It must be rare, and one of the reasons I like it is that I’ve never seen the images before or since.

I would have loved to have gone but we're travelling to a wedding that weekend! ☹️

I only own and (occasionally) use one deck where one card is missing. It's the Hanged Man. As a substitute I use the cover card that was left (you know those with deck title on it). So the message of the Hanged Man could get through. Of course one can read with an incomplete deck – but why? Because it's hard to declare a thoughtful and beautiful gift as useless? I hope this doesn't sound rude but I think that's the crux. If you fell for the deck's charm (understandably, it's one of my favourite Lenormand decks) drop me a line and I may be able to get you a replacement.

I'm not an experienced Lenormand reader ...although I own several decks and occasionally try a reading. As you say, the previous owner seems to have removed two 'dark' cards ...Coffin and Scythe...for a reason. Maybe afraid of the idea or symbols of death? Fair enough—although they passed the deck along to a new owner, so maybe the altered deck didn't work for them very well. I believe any deck (Tarot, Lenormand, Kipper, Oracle) takes on whatever vibe you, the reader, put into it. So, by all means, give it a try without the two cards, as you still find the deck has lovely energy. See how you get on. If you feel the deck tells you what you need to know without those two cards, then the altered deck works for you. 🙂 If you sense the deck is missing out on vital aspects of a reading, then maybe just retire it? Or see if you can replace the cards in some way? It's your deck now, and you don't need to absorb the fears of the previous owner. As to working with incomplete decks, I have been known to occasionally remove all the court cards from a tarot deck before doing a reading. This removes the references to actual people or personal characteristics, and sometimes simplifies the reading for me. (I don't do this often at all, by the way ...but occasionally.) Cards are a tool; how you use that tool is up to you.

Feedback -- Questions and comments are welcome. This reading gives us insight into energies that we can focus on during specific days of the upcoming week as well as throughout the entire week as a whole This week's reading will use the Magical Hours Tarot by Cecilia Lattari and illustrated by Fabiana Belmonte.. Here are focal points for our meditation: Sunday: How Can I Express Generosity: IV 'Sovereignty' Spend time listening. Monday. How Can I Set the Emotional Tone for my Week? XXI Oreget 'Web of Life' Dream journal. Tuesday What Do I Want to Manifest? Person of Swords 'Defender' Facilitate communication. Wednesday What Wisdom is Coming to Me? Six of Swords 'Movement' Dream re-entry. Thursday: What Do I Want to Develop? XVII Na'arah. 'Hope' Emigration research. Friday: Connection with Romance, Friends & Nature? XVIII Chachamah. 'Wise Woman' Study AI 3-D rendering. Shabbat: How Can I Rest? Four of Cups 'Epiphany' Magic for Dream/Tarot circle.

I have been gifted a vintage Lenormand (this: http://spielkartenonline.de/product.php?id_product=3305) with cards 8 and 10 missing. The deck has a lovely energy to it and I’d like to use it. So I’ve been thinking what to do about the missing cards. My first thought was to recreate or otherwise add the two cards, but then I decided it was the ‘fate’ of the deck to be read without Scythe and Coffin. The previous owner took them out for a reason, adding the cards now would disturb the energy of the deck for me. I’m not a confident Lenormand reader and certainly not someone who would do a grand tableau, but, obviously, the deck will speak differently without those two cards. Does anyone else read with incomplete decks?

Ha ha! I enjoy your sense of humour. It just wants to feel things and eat grapes. But yeah. It's hard not to see the Empress and the Emperor as totally divergent energies. They both seem so immersed in their separate roles. I wonder if they can interact with each other at all. Is there any modicum of cooperation or understanding between them? 'Just you wait till your father gets home!' 'I'll let your mother deal with that.'

That is the impression I got too! I think I may give this oracle a chance. What about the book? Is it any good? Uh-oh, why? Due to theme or imagery? If you don't mind sharing, of course!

I was re-reading the classic premise of John Gray’s 1992 book, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, and I had a lightbulb moment. Did Gray secretly steal his whole book concept from a Rider-Waite deck, or was he just channeling major Tarot energy? His whole thesis is that men and women speak such vastly different emotional "languages" that we might as well be from different planets. Sound familiar? Look at our favorite Major Arcana power couple: The Empress (Venus): Living her absolute best life on a cozy velvet couch, surrounded by nature, flowing gowns, and good vibes. She looks like she just got back from a 5-star spa retreat. The Emperor (Mars): Sitting on a rock throne wearing full plate armor in the middle of a desert, looking like he's about to declare war on a parking ticket. Honestly, whenever The Emperor pops up in a love reading, I never know whether to say "congratulations" or "I'm so sorry." Talk about high-maintenance, rigid energy! If we look at them through a psychological lens: The Empress is the Subconscious: She’s pure feeling, creativity, and flow. But let’s be real—the subconscious is a chaotic artist. It doesn't care about your Google Calendar or whether you have bills to pay; it just wants to feel things and eat grapes. The Emperor is the Conscious Defense System: He’s the stubborn security guard of your brain, building rigid walls and boundaries to keep the chaos out. Without the Emperor, life is a boundary-free emotional hot mess. But without the Empress, life is a cold, boring military drill where fun goes to die. Honestly, I now can't unsee them bickering over whose turn it was to load the dishwasher!

Yes @Tanga they all are, but the Major Arcana are the paths on the Tree of Life—meaning the steps you need to take. That’s what makes them stand out. They don't just help you achieve what you want; they also guide you.

@Darrell I will definitely keep you posted for when the deck arrives and I have a chance to 'try' it. I do hope it's easy to shuffle and handle. I have too many decks with imagery that I love, but the card stock and /or size is problematic. I want to just be able to USE this deck straight out of the box. If you think about 'godmother' and how the concept differs from 'mother,' it can throw up a lot of new ideas for the Empress card. A godmother is somebody who has agreed to look after the welfare of a young person, to offer assistance if they get into difficulty, to support them emotionally if they need support, and possibly to give them gifts (both physical gifts on certain occasions and the gift of opportunity and potential, if they can. A godmother is a woman whom the god-child can petition if they need a boost, but who is not legally obligated to raise them. A FAIRY godmother is all I mentioned, plus she has powers beyond the human sort. That is in keeping with The Empress being more a force of nature than a human being who bears children. The concept of magical powers working on behalf of the god-child can certainly add to weight of The Empress card. A reversed Empress can indicate the absence of these qualities, or the reversal of the qualities. The reversed Empress may use her powers (human or supernatural) to deliberately cause trouble for the god-child. Lots to explore. Sometimes The Empress, as traditionally seen, can feel a bit vague to me, if she's not directly connected to fertility or creativity ...or 'mom.' This fairy godmother aspect opens up more ways to interpret the card.

So... @Marina it is indeed quite Susan-Seddon-Bulet ish. And... I like it! There are a couple of cards I don't like (don't know why yet) which I may omit from the deck... or, change my mind, once I've studied them more closely. And the card stock is thin for the pocket version, which is what I have. But I will very happily use this easily an an oracle.

I just got this new oracle deck by Alana Fairchild titled Lightworker Oracle. It’s really beautiful. This deck will be great for light workers, healers, starseeds, etc. The guidebook includes invocations for each card, too. Here are some of my favorites so far:

OK - thanks.

That’s such a great depiction — the fairy godmother fits her energy really well, and reversed as the Sleeping Beauty fairy is a perfect contrast. I took a moment to look up Lisa Hunt’s deck after reading your reply, and seeing the Empress card in context makes your description even better. It’s a really interesting take on her, and I’m glad you mentioned it. I’d love to hear what you think of the deck once it arrives and you’ve had a chance to work with her version of the Empress.

Up till the moment my brain had its little philosophical fart, I would always say the 10 of Swords is a 'duration' card. Upright: bad times have reached their worst and will start to improve; reversed: there is still more bad stuff to come. However, the ORIGIN of the bad stuff has now come into play. Bad times deliberately caused by other people, versus random events? I'll see how that idea works in an actual reading.

@gregory if you select the text and use the T crossed out. I think that is the remove formatting now. Hopefully it will remove font? or select the default font on the font menu @geoxena You can choose fonts now, go on the .... menu on the text box. Just please make it still readable to the members 🤣 They have really worked on the input box with new better features in this version I think. There are lots of useful new things.

We recently discussed the person cards in Celine's thread in which I also posted a link to a video by Donna Leigh. Her notion of a ”different influence independent of gender” is reverberating anew. The man alone could have reprented AI – the coffin just made it clear to me (that's why I love those descriptor cards!).

I had a thought about the 10 of Swords the other day. I see the suit of Swords as 'action,' (as well as thoughts,) so could it be that the 'ruin' exemplified by the 10 of Swords is deliberately brought about by the actions of another person or people? Not to make folks paranoid or anything, but it seems easy to compare the card to Death. But if you see Death as a natural ending of an event, situation, or person ...maybe the 10 of Swords is an end intentionally caused by the actions of another person or group. (Group might be implied by the number of swords stuck in the person's back.) In other words, the 10 of Swords may not indicate misfortune, so much as betrayal? I do buy into the notion that it indicates things have reached their lowest point, and I also believe the reversed card indicates the pain will still go on for a while and has not ended yet. It's the cause of the pain or ruin that has given me food for thought.