Hi I am Calmness and a bit skeptic about Tarot Cards but they interest me too.

[Calmness]

Hi Everyone! The forum looks lovely and I hope that my skepticism about Tarot cards might go away. Thank you for an opportunity to talk to Tarot lovers!

[LogicalHue]

It might never go away but in my experience you just kinda push through, maybe sometimes you have to take a break from it. In those times I focus on just loving the decks for art's sake. Of course you may have a completely different experience from me and one day it'll lock in and you'll never go back! I am also very new to this forum so its not my place to welcome you but, hello and best wishes!

[stephanelli]

10 hours ago, Calmness said:

Hi Everyone! The forum looks lovely and I hope that my skepticism about Tarot cards might go away. Thank you for an opportunity to talk to Tarot lovers!

Welcome to the forum!

I can understand your skepticism and admire you for keeping an open mind!  I found that reading for others as well as myself and getting readings really helped me to open up and stop being skeptical!

I hope you enjoy it here 😊

[and_it_spoke]

11 hours ago, Calmness said:

Hi Everyone! The forum looks lovely and I hope that my skepticism about Tarot cards might go away. Thank you for an opportunity to talk to Tarot lovers!

Hi, @Calmness!

 

If I may ask, what is your skepticism about Tarot? As a fortune telling tool? As a magical aide? 

 

There are a lot of different and surprising deep approaches regarding Tarot that may fit into a perspective you don't find yourself skeptical about.

 

Any ways - I hope you enjoy yourself here!

[joy]

Hello @Calmness welcome to the TT&M Family

[katrinka]

I'm pretty rational and skeptical by nature. I don't view this as something to be defeated, things like logic and reason and science are vital for keeping us out of the Dark Ages. (Right brain? We should be using our WHOLE brains! But that right and left brained stuff has been debunked, anyway.)

And I've been reading cards since T. Rex was charting. Not with the nonpredictive, introspective, or psychological methods that were probably designed with skeptics in mind, but regular fortunetelling. Tall dark strangers, the whole tamale. I've seen it work, over and over. I've journaled and kept tabs on the outcomes. I don't know how it works (I don't buy "synchronicity". Why would cards work according to some law of synchronicity, but most other things don't seem to at all?) It's crazy, it shouldn't work, but it does.

I've thought about it a lot over the years. I've observed myself and others reading, and even discounting things like generalized information, there's always some striking, specific information that the cards just know. At this stage of the game, I suspect it's something to do with the nature of time. Einstein, and later, Stephen Hawking had some interesting things to say about time, the way it can bend and curve and do strange things. And they were only beginning to scratch the surface. Hawking once said that time is spherical, and asking what's before the beginning of time is like asking what's north of the North Pole. Maybe the cards can reflect something at another location on the sphere? It's really all there at once? I don't know.

But I've rambled. Welcome!

Edited July 22, 2020 by katrinka

[Calmness]

16 hours ago, LogicalHue said:

It might never go away but in my experience you just kinda push through, maybe sometimes you have to take a break from it. In those times I focus on just loving the decks for art's sake. Of course you may have a completely different experience from me and one day it'll lock in and you'll never go back! I am also very new to this forum so its not my place to welcome you but, hello and best wishes!

Thank you @LogicalHue I am just a beginner though familiar with tarot for about 3 years. I think the problem might be that I don't know how to use the cards properly and I am a skeptic because I love science and science impressed me because science is a verifiable and demonstrable knowledge. I just thought that how just a playing card deck tell something about a person's life. It can be interesting to draw cards as a fun but as a serious business it is difficult to understand how tarot works. I just think that how playing cards can predict something and I also have questions that can tarot tell something like unseen knowledge, for example if I ask from a tarot reader that am I married? I wonder can he or she answer this question just by looking at cards. I am quite confused and skeptic about them that's why I joined this forum in the hope that I will find clarity. My nature is to love the occult and esoteric phenomenons that's why I get attracted to the tarot cards. Thanks.

[and_it_spoke]

3 hours ago, Calmness said:

... I am a skeptic because I love science and science impressed me because science is a verifiable and demonstrable knowledge.

 

...My nature is to love the occult and esoteric phenomenons that's why I get attracted to the tarot cards. Thanks.

Same here!

 

Which is why I like what I guess what you'd call a more 'Jungian' approach to the cards. Tarot cards (the Rider-Waite-Smith deck especially) are filled with intentional symbology. Carl Jung himself encouraged use of Tarot as a means of aiding the process of individuation - or becoming whole within your own consciousness.

 

The cards help poke the subconscious. The symbols on the cards are intentionally designed to poke the subconscious in almost all cases. When taken in the context of different questions asked in a Tarot reading, those symbols evoke different subconscious ideas or feelings that can provide a more conscious insight into the question you or another are asking. 

 

I look at the cards as less of fortune telling device, but more of a tool for internal insight and wisdom. But that's not to "poo-poo" perspectives like @katrinka's! Because as Shakespeare said, "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio..." and at times I wonder if maybe I'm just not brave enough to acknowledge them fully. Yet.

 

But... Explore! Welcome! There are lots of different aspects (and decks!) to explore. 🙂

[Decan]

3 hours ago, and_it_spoke said:

Shakespeare said, "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio..."

Ah great reference! 🙂

 

Hello and welcome @Calmness 

I’m sure you will find an approach that speaks to your soul!

Edited July 23, 2020 by Decan

[Calmness]

Thank you to all friends who welcomed me. I shall keep sharing and learning whenever I get time. Thank you!

[LogicalHue]

12 hours ago, Calmness said:

It can be interesting to draw cards as a fun but as a serious business it is difficult to understand how tarot works. I just think that how playing cards can predict something and I also have questions that can tarot tell something like unseen knowledge, for example if I ask from a tarot reader that am I married?

Well now you've got me curious: Do you draw cards for fun? I'm unsure from everything you've written if you're approaching this as a new reader or as an outside observer?

[Calmness]

@LogicalHue as I said previously I am quite skeptic but sometimes I just pick  a card for myself and just try to see its relevance. But I also did few serious readings for few people. All of them were ladies. One of them said Wow! And the other one was someone who spent her life in the field of intuition she just said that it was the best reading she ever got in her life. I just laughed in my heart by whispering to myself: Haha nice but I don't believe in cards! After 3 months she contacted me again and she started telling me a story and she told me that I saw cheating in my reading and now she have found that her boyfriend cheated. I was again in surprise because I did not even remember what I said to her.