Aldor44 Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) So, funny story.... I have tried reading Lenormand several times in the past- and it didn't clicked - I dropped it after a short period every time- not understanding the "rules" .. I picked it up again like 2 weeks ago- on a whim- and started following the rules a bit more loosely ( after watching again a few online videos) - so far the results ( especially in prediction ) were spot on- to a point where I told someone an hour before the event that something she planned would be canceled and the way it would be canceled.. which happened - in that precise way.. This rarely happened for me in Tarot - despite me reading it quite well for a number of years now While the Lenormand went well- Surprisingly VERY well- The Tarot suddenly started looking rather complex to me.. I started having issues reading/ interpreting spreads - especially reversals - which is again something I have done for 6 months or so - with relative ease. I had a few readings where the cards were simply jibrish - something that almost never happened before... Trying to figure it out... Any insights would be appreciated. Edited August 21, 2020 by Aldor44
Decan Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 Maybe your Lenormand wants more attention than 2 weeks 🙂 For the Tarot I don't worry, if you are fluent with it, it's like riding a bicycle (something you won't forget).
Aldor44 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Posted August 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, Decan said: Maybe your Lenormand wants more attention than 2 weeks 🙂 For the Tarot I don't worry, if you are fluent with it, it's like riding a bicycle (something you won't forget). I havent stopped doing Lenormand 😄 just started 2 weeks ago
katrinka Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Aldor44 said: While the Lenormand went well- Surprisingly VERY well- The Tarot suddenly started looking rather complex to me.. I started having issues reading/ interpreting spreads - especially reversals - which is again something I have done for 6 months or so - with relative ease. I had a few readings where the cards were simply jibrish - something that almost never happened before... Lenormand should improve your Tarot skills. It conditions you to combining cards, makes you consider proximity, and lends precision. At one time Tarot would have been read much like Lenormand or playing cards (they're all actually "playing cards"). It's authentic predictive reading that's been preserved. That's why we defend the traditional ideas when people try to "innovate" it. It works. You've only been seriously at it for a couple of weeks and you already made a striking, detailed prediction that turned out to be correct. Imagine what you'll be able to do in 5-7 years when you're really fluent (yes, it's a language!) The method is genius, it still amazes me sometimes. So now you've experienced that, and you lay out the Tarot and it looks like a big smear of card salad. I get that. But I suspect you're noticing how vague it is rather than losing your ability. If that's the case, the problem is not you. It's the popular ideas that have been imposed on Tarot in recent decades. "Cards don't predict the future." "There are no bad cards." "Whatever you feel is right." Etc. I'd advise sitting down with your Tarot and sorting it into three piles: positive, neutral, and negative. (Yes, the Tower can be "positive" when something needs to be broken down, but the core meaning is "destruction" and that's negative.) Look at the meanings you use - are they as precise as Lenormand meanings? Take the time to read through these playing card meanings. You don't have to learn YET ANOTHER system, but see if any of this can be incorporated into your Tarot method. The Ace of Cups/Hearts, for instance, can refer to the home, much like the House in Lenormand.https://artofcartomancy.blogspot.com/p/cartomancy-card-meanings.html Hope this helps.
AJ-ish/Sharyn Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 I think Katrinka nailed it. Totally agree.
Aldor44 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 Thank you @katrinka I will give it a try for sure! And thanks the others who took the time to answer me 😍
Aldor44 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 @katrinka Could you help me figure out which playing cards suit refers to which Tarot? I know Hearts is cups. Diamonds- Pentacles? Spades- Swords? and Clubs -wands?
katrinka Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aldor44 said: @katrinka Could you help me figure out which playing cards suit refers to which Tarot? I know Hearts is cups. Diamonds- Pentacles? Spades- Swords? and Clubs -wands? Yes, that's the usual way of doing it! Now, (and you might already know this, but it bears mentioning) Lenormand insets won't work with these. That's because the deck is based on an Alemannic cartomancy method, so Clubs is the trouble suit, not Spades. But it's helpful with Tarot. Edited August 22, 2020 by katrinka
Guest Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 23 hours ago, Aldor44 said: So, funny story.... I have tried reading Lenormand several times in the past- and it didn't clicked - I dropped it after a short period every time- not understanding the "rules" .. I picked it up again like 2 weeks ago- on a whim- and started following the rules a bit more loosely ( after watching again a few online videos) - so far the results ( especially in prediction ) were spot on- to a point where I told someone an hour before the event that something she planned would be canceled and the way it would be canceled.. which happened - in that precise way.. This rarely happened for me in Tarot - despite me reading it quite well for a number of years now While the Lenormand went well- Surprisingly VERY well- The Tarot suddenly started looking rather complex to me.. I started having issues reading/ interpreting spreads - especially reversals - which is again something I have done for 6 months or so - with relative ease. I had a few readings where the cards were simply jibrish - something that almost never happened before... Trying to figure it out... Any insights would be appreciated. It is a shift in perspective and it is quite common. You are looking at the cards in a new way. Over time, you might find yourself stripping the superfluous material that can drench the tarot of the Anglo-Saxon school of thought. In its place can be a more direct connection with the cards’ essence rather the representational meanings, astrology, Qabalah, &c. That will not ruin your tarot abilities it will open up vistas.
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