Different Tarot Readers Give The Same Outcome - It is NOT coming true - CURSE ?

[ilovemylife]

Hi All,

 

I'm in this forum for the first time. I have been in the tarot topic for over half a year now. When I first received my tarot reading - I did not like it - I changed the path of my life, thoughts and I started meditation, visualisations and so on. After 3-4 months, I had another readings and it seemed that i changed my "former destiny". I did not ask the same questions, but yes - I was talking about the same topic, but in close cooperation with the tarot card readers who used different cards and we did not ask the same questions. I talked to 3 people or even 4.

The results they gave were practically the same and they gave almost the same time for the fulfillment of the divination. BUT IT IS NOT HAPPENING.

My question is: why the tarot is not working for me? But it is not just what I want to know.  I have a few more issues that are puzzling me. In this whole process I had contact with someone who supposedly knows something about magic, can read people's minds - generally a strange person, for me quite negative energetically. I do not know how to ask a question so that it makes sense. But I will try. Is it possible that someone "enchanted" all cards for me so that the reading outcomes would be good for me? Can I have any blockages being the reasons why these messages do not work, although they are so similar to each other? Can I be cursed ? And if so, would the cards still give me the same messages?

 

I'm sorry if what I am writing does not make much sense, but I have been on a very rough patch lately and the issues I have been asking about concern my family life, which is of utmost importance to me and I do not know what to do...

 

Tarot readers are also puzzled - they all said they are very surprised things are not going the way they predicted, as the cards "were so calm" describing the outcome as "a book example" leaving no roomm for misinterpretation...

 

Please share your views.

 

Thank you in advance for any help.

[Emilija]

I think there's a simpler explanation. You say that all of the messages were similar, it could be that the messages were not understood. It could be that this negative person is a fraud. I would be critical of anyone who says that they can read people's minds. It could be that these people are telling you what they think you want to hear.

[Guest]

do this for your self, divination is a tricky animal,

 

The moment of our observation of the cards alters our awareness and by extension the usage of the levels of energy we have stored up to change the small things taking place in life but merely observation doesn't have the energy for the big things.

 

Changing big things takes big energy at the right times, or a constant drip in the perfect places.

 

"What frame of mind are we in when we are asking," this is a critical issue. I would suggest get your own deck of cards, do your own spread, and leave it there for a day or two. See how this spread looks in the morning when you wake up, then try drawing cards constantly. Do it in meditation, do it distracted, while watching tv, talking to others. always shuffling those cards and cutting them.

 

Every spread is a moment. a slice of the current state you are in. regardless of the questions you ask the cards they will reflect this state above and beyond the question.  A chaotic unstable inner state will give chaotic unstable answers. At this point, you have a choice of calming and quieting the interior person so that the question can be asked in a properly balanced manner or we learn to filter out the noise caused by our current state of functioning by learning to ignore things in the spread or take them into special consideration

 

[ilovemylife]

I think there's a simpler explanation. You say that all of the messages were similar, it could be that the messages were not understood. It could be that this negative person is a fraud. I would be critical of anyone who says that they can read people's minds. It could be that these people are telling you what they think you want to hear.

 

Dear Emilija,

 

I was quite nervous while writing my post, so I guess I brought some confusion to what I am actually trying to understand.

The guy who claimed to read people's minds DID NOT give me a reading, 3 other people did. He wasnt involved in the process.

He claimed to know magic (white and black magic) and I am just worried that he might have "cast" something on me.

[Emilija]

It's possible that he did, and depending on your faith tradition, there are some prayers or rituals that you can use to protect yourself from negative energy.

[ilovemylife]

 

 

Every spread is a moment. a slice of the current state you are in. regardless of the questions you ask the cards they will reflect this state above and beyond the question.  A chaotic unstable inner state will give chaotic unstable answers. At this point, you have a choice of calming and quieting the interior person so that the question can be asked in a properly balanced manner or we learn to filter out the noise caused by our current state of functioning by learning to ignore things in the spread or take them into special consideration

 

My tarot card readers all said the cards were very calm and  that the readings were very easy to interpret and that there was no way to make a mistake. One added that if she felt some confusion or anything, she would always tell me and she was also surprised nothing is coming true..

 

Can evil forces be interfering there?

 

[ilovemylife]

It's possible that he did, and depending on your faith tradition, there are some prayers or rituals that you can use to protect yourself from negative energy.

 

 

OK, let's say that he did - would my cards and readings still be giving the same outcome during past 2 months and from different readers ?

 

I don't know who to turn to regarding this.

[Emilija]

It's possible, but it's hard to say for certain. You said that the cards were "calm." That doesn't indicate any negativity. But what does stand out to me is that you said that these readers told you that there were no room for questions. There's ALWAYS room for questions and needing clarification. The fact that they were telling you this makes me wonder if they didn't understand what the cards were telling them. It's possible that this "negative" guy is making you nervous. I would do a prayer or cleansing, stop seeing him, and like whatsawhosit said, re- approach it with a fresh perspective.

[ilovemylife]

It's possible, but it's hard to say for certain. You said that the cards were "calm." That doesn't indicate any negativity. But what does stand out to me is that you said that these readers told you that there were no room for questions. There's ALWAYS room for questions and needing clarification. The fact that they were telling you this makes me wonder if they didn't understand what the cards were telling them. It's possible that this "negative" guy is making you nervous. I would do a prayer or cleansing, stop seeing him, and like whatsawhosit said, re- approach it with a fresh perspective.

 

Emilija thank you so much for your answers and help. I appreciate this very much.

 

When I got my first reading after a break of 3-4 months (and with the changed ourcome for a positive one for me) I asked my card tarot reader "are you sure?"  as I was shocked that the cards were so positive that time. She said "look, cards are like an example from a book, I don't see a chance of misinterpreting, If I saw some confusion I would tell you, your reading has so many positive cards that it is bewildering to me that it is not coming true". Later, we tried to ask the cards more quesion related to the same topic and she said they are so nice, calm and they kind of give more details to the  outcome and they do not contradict with what was previously said.

 

The "mind's reader" supposedly does magic and can cast a spell (supposedly) but I think he is a fraud, yet I have  been very uneasy and fearful since I had contact with him.

 

I tried to check if he had done something to me and I was told by one magician that there has been no black magic involved but a lot of negativity around me.

 

Will healing/cleaning process (white candles?) help me get rid of those negative emotions ?

 

I am so confused right now. I  have been  on a very rough path recently (it is about my family life and my marriage) and the readings gave me so much consolation and positivity after long period of unhappiness, yet nothing seems to be coming true :(

 

BTW, their previous readings came true..

 

 

[Page of Ghosts]

If you believe you've been cursed there are ways to break it and I hope you don't see this creepy guy anymore. He sounds very unsettling and regardless if he did anything it sounds like he could have been trying to intimidate you. From what I've read about curses it's important to first examine the mundane possibilities and as such I throw out some ideas about your tarot readings.

 

When I read tarot I don't neccessarily try to predict the future, I do it more for advice and guidance based on where I am in the present. And if I want to succeed I need to follow that advice. I need to put in some effort to get what I want. So if I did a spread about my artwork and how I can improve and I didn't actually follow through on that advice (get better materials, get a better work structure, paint every day, do gesture drawings to better understand anatomy etc) and actually not did not work on my art at all of course I wouldn't improve, because I didn't do what the reading advised me to do. So I wonder if there could have been any kind of advice or suggestion for something you could do in your reading(s) that you didn't follow through with. I think tarot is great for giving us agency and show us ways in which we can influence or survive a situation even when it seems hopeless. Or was it a purely predictive reading where you were more of a passive presence with other things happening around you?

 

I'm curious if all the readers received the same cards or just the same overall message. I would never claim that there isn't any room for error on my own end even with a reading I think is quite straightforward. I believe I get the correct cards when I do the reading and it's up to me to interpret them correctly. Most of the time I get it but other times there is something I've missed or I just don't get it at all. Then I need some time to mull it over or if I'm super stuck I can pull out a book for some ideas to start brainstorming. At least I have some ideas then and I can discuss things if I'm reading for someone else. I record my readings so I can look back on them and the few times I've done a reading for others I've provided a picture of the reading (except my very first readings when I were a proper noob, outside of this forum) so they can look at it at a later time. The cards are pictures so they might see something I didn't in them. Did you get any picture or did they record the cards they pulled for you so you or they can re-examine them?

 

Tarot is not basic mathemathics or always very straightforward. There is, as Emilija says, definetely room for clarification and questions and follow ups after some time has passed. If you own cards yourself you could ask for advice on what you could do to make the situation come to fruition, if there are any hidden influences you should know of etc. I think whatawhosit has some good ideas about trying it out for yourself. Reading for yourself can be a bit tricky but I think it's great fun and helps you build a relationship with the cards and give them some personal meanings. That is, if you're interested in learning to do it for yourself.

[faerybraids]

Practicing witch popping in here! I'm glad I refreshed the page before posting my previous response to see the new replies. xD; I'll skip my view of the situation because you've mentioned someone else has sensed negativity around you, which basically confirms both things I thought could be causes. (Short version: I doubt he actively cursed you.)

 

Cleansing is usually all that's needed. Depending on how strongly your mind manipulates things you might need to cleanse several times to get of it all (latent fear of being cursed often leads to the self-fulfilling prophecy of things happening as though you have been cursed, so sometimes you need to quash the new negativity as it arises), but that's about it. Different methods of cleansing work for different people--some choose prayer, some choose luxurious baths, some choose white candles and an elaborate ritual, etc. I've been known to throw salt at myself to cleanse (though that was a different situation...). It can be as simple or elaborate as you want.

 

My guess is that once you sort through this the tarot readings may yet come true, though obviously I could be wrong. Sometimes we have unseen hurdles we need to overcome before things come to pass. It's possible this is one of those things. eta: Not to mention, like the others have as well (that I forgot to touch on, whoops), there's always room for clarification, and there's always the chance for misinterpretation.

[Raggydoll]

This might not help you with your current dilemma, but it is a piece of advice for the future. There are, in my opinion, certain circumstances under which you should never do a tarot reading. The main ones being: Whenever you are really stressed or emotionally unbalanced, and when you have a hard time putting something out of your mind. And last, but not least, when you really want (or feel a need) to hear a specific answer to your question . This is so important. If you have any fears about a specific topic, that fear might show up in the cards - even if it has nothing to do with reality and the potential future. The same goes for when you have great (positive) expectations about something. That makes it very hard to get a clear reading.

 

I know it is not possible to be perfectly balanced every time you do a tarot reading, but there is such a difference between being a little bit wind up and being frantic.

 

Please be kind and patient with yourself through all of this.

[ilovemylife]

This might not help you with your current dilemma, but it is a piece of advice for the future. There are, in my opinion, certain circumstances under which you should never do a tarot reading. The main ones being: Whenever you are really stressed or emotionally unbalanced, and when you have a hard time putting something out of your mind. And last, but not least, when you really want (or feel a need) to hear a specific answer to your question . This is so important. If you have any fears about a specific topic, that fear might show up in the cards - even if it has nothing to do with reality and the potential future. The same goes for when you have great (positive) expectations about something. That makes it very hard to get a clear reading.

 

I know it is not possible to be perfectly balanced every time you do a tarot reading, but there is such a difference between being a little bit wind up and being frantic.

 

Please be kind and patient with yourself through all of this.

 

 

 

I want to repeat here that all the readings were clear and gave practically the same outcome.. Coincidence? Bad interpreting?

 

Yes, I checked the cards - I read everything about the cards I got in my readings that I could find on the Internet (I think I chose reliable sources)

 

Do people who resort to tarot, are all of them emotionally balanced ? No. That's why some of them resort to Tarot, right...

 

Yes,  I have to admit that now I am emotionally unbalanced - or should I rather say - I am simply miserable, unhappy and in a panic state of mind because of my problems which seem to be growing each and every day and nothing seems to be going right...

 

But when I asked for another card reading (after the span of 3-4 months) I prepared myself for THE WORST.. I wasn't expecting ANY positive outcome given what I had heard from the same person 4 months before.. And yes I was scared to even read the reader's reply, but I simply didn't expect anything positive. Of course, everyone wishes they received good cards, and probably so did I at that time, but I was worried that I might have gotten same answer as 4 months back telling me NO WAY LADY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

 

 

 

 

 

[Emilija]

 

Emilija thank you so much for your answers and help. I appreciate this very much.

 

When I got my first reading after a break of 3-4 months (and with the changed ourcome for a positive one for me) I asked my card tarot reader "are you sure?"  as I was shocked that the cards were so positive that time. She said "look, cards are like an example from a book, I don't see a chance of misinterpreting, If I saw some confusion I would tell you, your reading has so many positive cards that it is bewildering to me that it is not coming true". Later, we tried to ask the cards more quesion related to the same topic and she said they are so nice, calm and they kind of give more details to the  outcome and they do not contradict with what was previously said.

 

The "mind's reader" supposedly does magic and can cast a spell (supposedly) but I think he is a fraud, yet I have  been very uneasy and fearful since I had contact with him.

 

I tried to check if he had done something to me and I was told by one magician that there has been no black magic involved but a lot of negativity around me.

 

Will healing/cleaning process (white candles?) help me get rid of those negative emotions ?

 

I am so confused right now. I  have been  on a very rough path recently (it is about my family life and my marriage) and the readings gave me so much consolation and positivity after long period of unhappiness, yet nothing seems to be coming true :(

 

BTW, their previous readings came true..

 

It's possible that the positivity has yet to come to pass. I'm just throwing that possibility out there.

 

It sounds like this man is trying to scare people, and that is causing negative energy. It could be that you're frantic or fearful.

 

This is what works for me. I kneel at my bed and I ask God to be with me and send angels to comfort me and protect me from negativity. Ask God to help you with your marriage and guide you to wise decisions. Then, you can take some sage or incense and say the Lord's Prayer while running the smoke over yourself and your deck. Then smudge the corners of each room.

 

There's a short prayer that you can say three times in the morning and three times in the evening. You don't have to be Muslim to say it. You can substitute "God" for "Allah.

 

[ilovemylife]

Did you get any picture or did they record the cards they pulled for you so you or they can re-examine them?

 

 

Yes, they told me the cards and I examined them. They werent the same of course all the time for different readers because questions asked were different, although they revolved around the same topic. But all of them were surprisingly very positive..

 

 

[ilovemylife]

Or  was it a purely predictive reading where you were more of a passive presence with other things happening around you?

 

 

One person only answered my questions.

Other one, after I had told her nothing is coming true, asked tarot for advice and used also angel  cards. Tarot only said that I need to have faith that everything is going right though it may seem not to and that I should remain calm. Angel cards said that my prayers have been listened to and I am manifesting my desires. The third one might have been a bit contradictory as it said that there is going to be further separation (marriage) and the angels will give a hand in this process.

[RavenOfSummer]

I agree with what others have already said, but just to add my personal view, I would always advise not to stake major events or decisions in your life on an answer from a tarot reading, or any other form of divination. Similar to what Page of Ghosts said, I view tarot as a tool that allows you to tap into knowledge and wisdom that is otherwise difficult to access. Whether that wisdom comes from the universe, God, your inner self, etc is a matter of personal perspective. But regardless, it allows you to tap into something deep and true.

 

Like Page of Ghosts, I generally don't use tarot as a predictive tool, but rather as a tool to clearly show the path that I am on, and based on that receive guidance that I can choose to incorporate (or not) into my life. But we have to deal with the reality we are living in. That doesn't mean we can't change our reality, and tarot is very powerful with helping to do that. It might be viewed as something akin to prayer. Like, school children might pray that there is a snow storm tomorrow, because they haven't studied for the test they have to take, so they really want school to be closed. They may pray for this even if it's the middle of October and there is very little chance of a snow storm. That's not to say they can't wish for it. It's not to say that a snow storm could not happen. The universe, or God, or however you view the world, has a mysterious way of supporting you and conspiring with you, sometimes even in the most unexpected of ways and situations. 

 

But, it's very different from, a week before the test is scheduled, praying that you can learn the material before it's time to take the test, and then using the intention and power of that prayer to put into practice whatever advise comes from that. Studying, trying to improve your focus, etc.

 

I'm not sure if this makes sense or is helpful...I guess what I'm trying to say is, my advice would be to make sure that you allow a reading to really connect with your source of deeper truth, and on that basis let it guide you. It's hard to be more specific without knowing more about your situation, exactly what the cards were, etc. It's possible what the cards showed will still come to pass. It's possible the cards were showing something you are hoping for rather than an outcome. It's possible the cards were showing that things are going to work out and be good for you, even if you don't get the outcome you hoped for. The cards speak in mysterious ways. I would say just let any reading you receive help you tap into your source of wisdom and knowledge, rather than feeling like you have received a definitive answer that cannot change.

 

Just my thoughts! Sending love and energy your way in hopes that everything will work out <3

 

And also echoing what others have said, take steps to cleanse and protect yourself, and stay away from those from whom you feel a negative energy!

[Page of Ghosts]

Or  was it a purely predictive reading where you were more of a passive presence with other things happening around you?

 

 

One person only answered my questions.

Other one, after I had told her nothing is coming true, asked tarot for advice and used also angel  cards. Tarot only said that I need to have faith that everything is going right though it may seem not to and that I should remain calm. Angel cards said that my prayers have been listened to and I am manifesting my desires. The third one might have been a bit contradictory as it said that there is going to be further separation (marriage) and the angels will give a hand in this process.

 

Hmm.. I gotta admit I'm a bit out of my depth here! Like I said I'm not one who usually does a lot of predictive readings. I imagine quite a few things must align for a prediction to come true, especially if it involves other people. Is it long since you had the last reading done? Is it possible you or someone else could have done something in the meantime to change the course of this prediction? You mentioned when you had your first ever reading you didn't like it and you changed up your ways, and then the other readings, which I'm not sure if were on the same topic, changed in their tone. Did that first reading come true in some form or another, or was it thwarted?

 

Like RavenOfSummer says it's a bit hard to come up with very specific ideas when we don't know much about the issue or cards involved. It is possible that it could still come through, but it's taking some longer time for one reason or another. Is it something you could do about the situation to push it further along?

[DanielJUK]

When I first really started studying tarot, I was going through a depressed period of my life. The readings kept throwing up depressing cards about current or immediate time frames but in the future they were really positive!

 

I did get better from that situation and my cards changed to more positive in my immediate life but the fulfilment in the future never came true or has not yet, I believe that the future message was a "light at the end of the tunnel", like the Star card. It gave me some hope and faith in a dark time but I am not sure it would ever come true. It was guidance.

 

Second idea, if you get another reading I would look at why it's blocked? why is it not happening? What do you need to do to make that fulfilment occur?

 

I am not sure about the magical guy or enchanting or cursing cards, this seems to make you fearful and also that you can't trust the readings. I think the readings are probably true but you need to work out why it's not happening and also like I say it might just give you hope or to change your destiny path. I would ask "what do I need to do to make it happen now?" or something like that if you get a reading.

[dancing_moon]

All I can add to the excellent replies above is that we don't always know what's best for us, and our desired 'best' outcome might not be the best one in the big picture. Some outcomes are simply impossible to manifest, especially if other people's wills are involved. I can pray all I want for a happy relationship with John, but if John doesn't want to be happy with me, it won't work. In the worst-case scenario, I'll stay in an unhappy relationship with the above-mentioned John. In the best one, my angels will help us break up so that I can meet someone I can be happy with. But at first, it'll probably feel like my prayers are being ignored, and my wonderful outcome isn't coming true. The cards might still be showing a real outcome, but with different people involved. Some things can only be achieved to a certain degree.

 

Hope your life will get better soon. :hugs: