Two of Cups vs The Lovers

[KitKat]

Hello!

 

I consider the Two of Cups and the Lovers to have very similar energies: romantic, partnerships, yin/yang duality. The Lovers has more of an element of choice to it, but otherwise they seem the same.

 

Lately the Two of Cups and the Lovers have been haunting me. I draw them in a lot of spreads and they fall out at me when I'm shuffling. It doesn't matter what deck I use. It just keeps happening and has been going on for a few months now. I'm trying to figure out what they mean as I don't have a romantic interest and am not exactly open to the possibility at this time. They usually fall out together, so I wonder what it could mean.

 

Any opinions in this context or in general?

[Starlight]

I tend to think that The Lovers is more about a choice to be made (and possibly one that is thrust upon you rather than being one you decide to make yourself).

 

My first deck was the Mythic Tarot and in the card are three goddesses and a man. The man is Paris who was asked by the three Goddesses (Hera, Athena and Aphrodite) to choose the most beautiful goddess of the three.

 

Two of Cups on the other hand I always tend to think is more about matters of the heart, and a potential relationship.

 

Oh, I've just read the last part of your post!

 

So. The Lovers and the Two of Cups. Have you had to make any major decisions related to a romantic interest/relationship in the past? Perhaps this is weighing on your mind? It might be one reason the cards keep falling out. Perhaps there's a need for closure there? Or coming to terms with something that happened?

[KitKat]

I tend to think that The Lovers is more about a choice to be made (and possibly one that is thrust upon you rather than being one you decide to make yourself).

 

My first deck was the Mythic Tarot and in the card are three goddesses and a man. The man is Paris who was asked by the three Goddesses (Hera, Athena and Aphrodite) to choose the most beautiful goddess of the three.

 

Two of Cups on the other hand I always tend to think is more about matters of the heart, and a potential relationship.

 

Oh, I've just read the last part of your post!

 

So. The Lovers and the Two of Cups. Have you had to make any major decisions related to a romantic interest/relationship in the past? Perhaps this is weighing on your mind? It might be one reason the cards keep falling out. Perhaps there's a need for closure there? Or coming to terms with something that happened?

 

That's a very interesting take on the Lovers! I really like that in general.

 

In my life, there hasn't really been any romantic decisions that I can think of... I've never really been in a relationship or engaged with romance in life. I've had people show interest, but I just don't feel ready for it. I suppose it might be referencing my closed-off approach? I don't remember a specific time I decided not to do the whole romance thing, but I suppose a decision was made sometime down the road?

[EmpyreanKnight]

Perhaps it's telling you to watch out and keep your eyes open because the love of your life is coming. :)

[Raggydoll]

Yes, I think it is very likely that your cards are referring to your closed-off approach. This might be something you will want to meditate on and do further readings about. I think it could be really helpful, if you are up for it. Though, if you keep pushing it away then you will most likely have 'love-cards' jumping out of decks and constantly invading your other readings. That's usually what happens for me when I try to avoid something's that my subconscious want to remind me of  :)

[faerybraids]

Sorry for the wall of text!

 

Maybe they're trying to say there's a deep, intimate relationship waiting for you if you open yourself to it? Or maybe to prepare yourself for one showing up? I don't know, maybe it's my particular mix of me, but I don't view either card as necessarily romantic per se, but rather that they both encompass relationships that are simply deeper and more intimate in some way than a regular platonic relationship is. The kind of relationship where you'd divulge things you'd never divulge to anyone else, you know? Even if you never saw them again.

 

Like, maybe an old friend will show up, and there'll be a sweet depth and tenderness to the intimacy you unexpectedly find with them? And a longing to be with that establishes a steady tie between you two, but doesn't necessarily result in a committed romantic relationship? (Finding comfort and companionship in the moments you do meet together, so to speak?)

 

If you're interested you can read my views on the cards below? My deck's the Royo Dark Tarot Mini, which deviates quite a bit from the meaning of some of the cards, though I think it's a biiit more subtle in these two's cases. So I could be way off in how they apply to your situation.

 

When I look at my Lovers card I see passion, something tying the two together yet not necessarily keeping them permanently together. Their meetings may skew more to the sexual gratification side of things than the romantic side, or they may be completely romantic with nothing sexual at all. It could be used to describe a deep, long-term partnership (however defined by those involved) or lovers who meet up once or thrice a year, or whenever they're in town, just to have that one night together--whether that's out to dinner or at a hotel for the night. Then there's the potential love addiction it could represent. (It's almost a Beauty and the Beast-type image on the card: a young woman lies in the arms of her lover, uncaring of his monstrous appearance and completely at ease, perhaps half-awake or half-asleep [and potentially even intoxicated or stoned depending on how you look at her face]. Her partner looks either completely possessive of her or completely loving and caring depending on how you look at them. It's interesting how neither of her breasts are completely revealed despite most other cards in the deck featuring nudity...)

 

When I look at my Two of Cups card (or Chalices, in this deck's case), the first thing I notice is the rain--their meeting is passionate, and in this card inherently sexual, though I don't necessarily believe that would be the case for whoever it represents. The passion's new. It might just last the one night without much depth to it all beyond it. Or, if the passion's been rekindled--say, in people that chose to give each other some space, thinking that perhaps they weren't right for each other, who later realised that they couldn't live without the person--then it's possible that that passion will unite them and mellow out to a comfortable partnership or even friendship. It could even represent people who simply haven't seen each other for years who meet again and something blooms between them. And, despite passion implied in the partially-removed clothing and her hand down his pants, there's a certain tenderness to the way the two pictured are kissing. It could be hopelessly romantic or a companionship without any romance at all. (Also interesting to note is they both wear collars, but neither is chained to anything--perhaps lending a "prisoners of love" tone to it, or to them being freed from their chains by their love.)

 

I personally love the Two of Chalices in this deck because it feels like it encompasses the beginnings of almost any deep relationship, not exclusively romantic ones, even despite the sexual act in the image. It's something to do with the rain and the tenderness...

 

(Tacking this onto the end of my post because I took way longer to write it than I thought I would, d'oh!: )

In my life, there hasn't really been any romantic decisions that I can think of... I've never really been in a relationship or engaged with romance in life. I've had people show interest, but I just don't feel ready for it. I suppose it might be referencing my closed-off approach? I don't remember a specific time I decided not to do the whole romance thing, but I suppose a decision was made sometime down the road?

 

Not all relationships have to be romantic. (*^^*) My partner and I, for example, are queerplatonic. I just don't feel romantic impulses or feelings like other people do. It does fluctuate a bit in terms of how I feel towards "romantic" things, but on the whole I just don't even know what they feel like (at best I just can't relate, at worst I feel the urge to vomit)--the rare time I think I feel them they feel foreign, and they're fleeting, and I often feel squeamish about them afterwards. My partner, on the other hand, is hugely romantic, and I love him all the more for being willing to tone it down for the sake of my comfort. :) So it's possible you're just somewhere on the aromantic spectrum like me, or that even if you do feel romantic feelings that maybe an overtly romantic relationship just isn't for you.

 

Of course, different people have different views of what romance even is, so in the end it's all relative to your culture and how you personally feel within it, isn't it? :) Maybe it's just a side of you the cards are saying it's worth exploring.