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Hi everyone, I'm looking for some advice on how to use Tarot to pinpoint the whereabouts of misplaced (I hope!) objects. I've never used tarot cards to do that, but I'd like to give it a go. I believe Lenormand is supposed to be a good system for this kind of thing, but I'm a newb when it comes to Lenormand and I'd like to find this misplaced ring sooner rather than later. :)

 

Do we read the cards slightly differently when using it for a more mundane, practical purpose? As in looking at what's in the card - symbols, objects, the location - or do we read the cards with the more usual meanings?

 

Thanks. :)

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OK, so I was flitting around the interwebs looking for some info on this topic and I came across this old thread on AT:

 

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=129841

 

Is anyone interested in playing the game Nisaba mentioned - someone hiding an object somewhere in their home and then the players using Tarot to try and find out a) what the object is, and b) where the object has been hidden?

 

It sounds like a fun game and I'd love to learn how to use my Tarot deck for finding lost or misplaced objects. Anyone game?

EmpyreanKnight
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It seems like it would take some really advanced Tarot knowledge to be proficient in using the cards to look for lost things. I've read somewhere that pendulums (through dowsing I think) are the best instruments for this tho.

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It seems like it would take some really advanced Tarot knowledge to be proficient in using the cards to look for lost things. I've read somewhere that pendulums (through dowsing I think) are the best instruments for this tho.

 

Yes, I did think of a pendulum too. I don't have much practice with it, but I could get a floor plan of our house and just see what happens when I put the pendulum into the mix.

 

I did pull two cards for where my lost ring might be and got 2 Wands and the card on the bottom of the deck was The Hanged Man.

 

2 Wands made me think of water and possibly toys - but the ring is not in the bathroom where my kiddos' bathtime toys are. Nor in our ensuite. According to the LWB, 2 Wands can also signify correspondence, writing and letters, so I looked in the place I normally write, but nothing there (so far) either. I'll try again. And give the pendulum a go, too. It can't hurt!

EmpyreanKnight
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The 2 of Wands makes me think of a place where you make your plans and stuff, so I'm thinking maybe a desk or somewhere you put your laptop. This might complement the place you thought of in your letters and correspondence-writing comment. The Hanged Man suggests something upside-down. It's also the card of unorthodox perspectives - somewhere you don't expect. Have you checked all of the nooks and crannies of your desk or table? It might be stuck somewhere - you may want to try to remove all the drawers to and all the items in them to really take a look inside. Also, have you searched around it? Behind it, below it, etc?

 

Maybe the other guys here can provide some more insights too.

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Yes! I have a room that I used to use for writing before it ended up looking like a store room... Hubby moved a computer out of there the other night and he's almost sure he saw the ring in there while he was doing it. It's possible now that the ring is no longer on the desk, but has fallen into the bin or down the side of the desk or behind it. So that's where I'll be heading next to look.

 

Thanks for that, EmpyreanKnight[/member]!

 

Could you share your thoughts as to why you think using tarot to find lost objects is an advanced skill? Do you think it is less straightforward than a normal tarot reading (can't use the usual meanings etc.), or is it that tarot as a system doesn't lend itself too easily for this sort of task?

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I came across this video last night demonstrating a spread the YouTuber found helpful when looking for HIS ring.

 

 

Synchronicity.

EmpyreanKnight
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Could you share your thoughts as to why you think using tarot to find lost objects is an advanced skill? Do you think it is less straightforward than a normal tarot reading (can't use the usual meanings etc.), or is it that tarot as a system doesn't lend itself too easily for this sort of task?

 

I guess it's because I haven't tackled much Tarot literature that equates the various cards to different places, so I'd have no idea how to go about it. I figure that it would be easier for very intuitive readers to get a grasp of this skill tho.

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It seems like it would take some really advanced Tarot knowledge to be proficient in using the cards to look for lost things. I've read somewhere that pendulums (through dowsing I think) are the best instruments for this tho.

 

Yes, I did think of a pendulum too. I don't have much practice with it, but I could get a floor plan of our house and just see what happens when I put the pendulum into the mix.

 

I did pull two cards for where my lost ring might be and got 2 Wands and the card on the bottom of the deck was The Hanged Man.

 

2 Wands made me think of water and possibly toys - but the ring is not in the bathroom where my kiddos' bathtime toys are. Nor in our ensuite. According to the LWB, 2 Wands can also signify correspondence, writing and letters, so I looked in the place I normally write, but nothing there (so far) either. I'll try again. And give the pendulum a go, too. It can't hurt!

 

I think the 2 of Wands was trying to suggest to you that the ring is inside your own little empire - so defs at home. It also makes me think of a smaller room that is definitely yours, where you are the boss. It also might be suggesting two rooms that you hang out in the most.

 

Wands are fire element, so they might be in a warm spot or literally near a fireplace. Also thinking of Hanged man - could it have fallen down a heating vent, and remained hanging there, so to speak? Not yet fallen into the deeper tube of the vent?

 

I've always found when using cards of any kind to suss out where lost objects are, you must use the most literal translation of the card that you can. For instance, when I was using the Lenormand deck to find some lost key ring, I got Anchor/Mountain/Garden. I went and looked in the back yard, and the keys were stuck (Mountain) point sides up (Anchor) in a snow bank (Mountain) in my back yard (Garden).

 

I do think Lenormand works better at this than tarot! And remember to be extremely literal in your take. I hope you find your ring!

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I guess it's because I haven't tackled much Tarot literature that equates the various cards to different places, so I'd have no idea how to go about it. I figure that it would be easier for very intuitive readers to get a grasp of this skill tho.

 

OK, I see what you mean. I did have to look at the LWB to see what the meanings were for examples of locations. I think it is a tricky way to do it and you'd almost have to put aside your understanding of cards' meanings to just focus on the literal side of things. A pendulum is probably WAY easier, and something I would like to practice with a lot more.

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I think the 2 of Wands was trying to suggest to you that the ring is inside your own little empire - so defs at home. It also makes me think of a smaller room that is definitely yours, where you are the boss. It also might be suggesting two rooms that you hang out in the most.

 

This sounds very like the room I used to write in! (The other room I hang out the most in is the kitchen.)

 

Wands are fire element, so they might be in a warm spot or literally near a fireplace. Also thinking of Hanged man - could it have fallen down a heating vent, and remained hanging there, so to speak? Not yet fallen into the deeper tube of the vent?

If it is the kitchen, then I could look near the stove or the cooker. This is not a place I would have thought of looking in, so it's worth exploring.

 

I've always found when using cards of any kind to suss out where lost objects are, you must use the most literal translation of the card that you can.

 

I agree - and I think that's what makes it so tricky! It's like shifting mental gears and putting aside more subtle, nuanced meanings and refocusing on the images and suits and numbers.

 

For instance, when I was using the Lenormand deck to find some lost key ring, I got Anchor/Mountain/Garden. I went and looked in the back yard, and the keys were stuck (Mountain) point sides up (Anchor) in a snow bank (Mountain) in my back yard (Garden).

 

I do think Lenormand works better at this than tarot! And remember to be extremely literal in your take. I hope you find your ring!

 

Yes, that's what I thought, too. Lenormand is ideal because it's so no-nonsense, sharp and to the point. It's another divination system that I want to study. :)

 

Thanks, Padma, for your suggestions. I now have another avenue to explore for that ring.

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Yes, and you can get results with Lenormand using very basic meanings and sometimes literalism, as shown here. (Nadia is a top tier reader, BTW. But for this, she doesn't get into nuance. And I think that's the problem with using Tarot for this kind of thing - too much nuance.)

https://cowriemoon.wordpress.com/2013/08/10/finding-a-lost-object-using-the-lenormand/

 

As mentioned, it can be quite literal. I recall that I mislaid my glasses awhile back. (How can you find them when you can't see well? LOL.) I don't remember the whole draw, but the focus card was the Tree. They were on top of a tall wooden bookshelf. On the wall behind it is a reproduction of a thangka: Tara of Kadhira Forest. Wood and more wood.  ;)

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in hermetic work finding something usually has roughly the same steps.

 

Governorship and rulership of the missing item used. For instance, I have lost my wallet. The wallet is definitely ruled by Saturn in my case ( it has my money i saved ) but it is governed by Taurus being my personal; money.

 

So the cards with these values ( Saturn and Taurus) are pulled from the deck. These two cards are your  significator and co-significator to be used in the spread.

 

I use the astrological tarot spread at this point to find stuff. The place the significator falls is the direction you would want to look, the top of the spread is South btw, the co-significator will lead you to it.

 

depending on how lost it is I will use more or fewer cards.

 

the best way to test is just put something somewhere, choose your significators, then just shuffle up 12 cards and see how it goes.

 

 

Saturn Celeste
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Hi everyone, I'm looking for some advice on how to use Tarot to pinpoint the whereabouts of misplaced (I hope!) objects. I've never used tarot cards to do that, but I'd like to give it a go. I believe Lenormand is supposed to be a good system for this kind of thing, but I'm a newb when it comes to Lenormand and I'd like to find this misplaced ring sooner rather than later. :)

 

Do we read the cards slightly differently when using it for a more mundane, practical purpose? As in looking at what's in the card - symbols, objects, the location - or do we read the cards with the more usual meanings?

 

Thanks. :)

I use the combination of the Tyldwick Tarot and Secret Language of Color.  I use the color oracle to see the color the object might be near and what room the object could be lost in.  I've used this combo for several people but have never received feedback if it worked or not. :(

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I've only used a pendulum for finding lost objects. I've had fair results. Though recently, I was trying to help a friend find a misplaced amethyst, working off of a sketch of the rooms, I had a very strong indication of it being in the bedroom, but put it in one spot, but it was found in a slightly different spot. Though the happenstance made me think I had the drawing oriented wrong. Next time it comes up, I might try the Tarot though...

Guest Empathic_Cap
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Even as a Capricorn having the trait of laziness I do tend to lose things often.. if I must be honest so whenever I've lost something I'd refer back to my cards. When u use your tarot try using simple questions like "Where is my (name of the lost item)?" Then you'll pull out a card.

 

A prime example for my statement is a personal experience that I've recently had where I needed to find my purse because it had important documents in it for financial purposes. So I asked the cards "Where is the location of my purse?" I then drawn out three cards

 

----[1]-----

-[2]---[3]--

[1] Is the location of the lost item

[2] How you have lost the item

[3] Why you have lost the item

 

From what I can recall the location card was the 4S. In which from my experience I would take this card as a location throughout the house where anyone could "rest" and relax. So the rooms in the house would be bedrooms/couches and so forth. So after a while I ended up finding the purse in my bedroom underneath a whole heap of stuff inside my closet...

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in hermetic work finding something usually has roughly the same steps.

 

Governorship and rulership of the missing item used.

[snip]

the best way to test is just put something somewhere, choose your significators, then just shuffle up 12 cards and see how it goes.

 

Thanks, whatsawhosit[/member]. I don't know a lot about Astrology although I do have a primer on my bookshelf that I will dive into one of these days, but thank you for sharing your process.

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in hermetic work finding something usually has roughly the same steps.

 

Governorship and rulership of the missing item used.

[snip]

the best way to test is just put something somewhere, choose your significators, then just shuffle up 12 cards and see how it goes.

 

Thanks, whatsawhosit[/member]. I don't know a lot about Astrology although I do have a primer on my bookshelf that I will dive into one of these days, but thank you for sharing your process.

Doesn't really use astrology for this. The spread is a12 card circle. the one the significator  card falls on is where you look. North south east west.

 

 

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I use the combination of the Tyldwick Tarot and Secret Language of Color.  I use the color oracle to see the color the object might be near and what room the object could be lost in.  I've used this combo for several people but have never received feedback if it worked or not. :(

 

Have you had any success doing it for yourself? It sounds like a very practical method.

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Doesn't really use astrology for this. The spread is a12 card circle. the one the significator  card falls on is where you look. North south east west.

 

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But the significator is related to astrology, isn't it? You mentioned Saturn for your wallet? I wouldn't know which planet to associate with my ring unless I did some research... But laying twelve cards out north south east west is doable. :)

Posted

I've only used a pendulum for finding lost objects. I've had fair results. Though recently, I was trying to help a friend find a misplaced amethyst, working off of a sketch of the rooms, I had a very strong indication of it being in the bedroom, but put it in one spot, but it was found in a slightly different spot. Though the happenstance made me think I had the drawing oriented wrong. Next time it comes up, I might try the Tarot though...

 

Yes, pendulums are a go-to for this sort of thing, but because I'm more familiar with tarot than pendulums I thought I'd try my deck first. :)

Posted

Even as a Capricorn having the trait of laziness I do tend to lose things often.. if I must be honest so whenever I've lost something I'd refer back to my cards. When u use your tarot try using simple questions like "Where is my (name of the lost item)?" Then you'll pull out a card.

 

A prime example for my statement is a personal experience that I've recently had where I needed to find my purse because it had important documents in it for financial purposes. So I asked the cards "Where is the location of my purse?" I then drawn out three cards

 

----[1]-----

-[2]---[3]--

[1] Is the location of the lost item

[2] How you have lost the item

[3] Why you have lost the item

 

From what I can recall the location card was the 4S. In which from my experience I would take this card as a location throughout the house where anyone could "rest" and relax. So the rooms in the house would be bedrooms/couches and so forth. So after a while I ended up finding the purse in my bedroom underneath a whole heap of stuff inside my closet...

 

Lovely! Thank you, Empathic_Cap[/member] . I've got a couple of suggestions now from everyone for spreads to use. Much appreciated. :)

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Doesn't really use astrology for this. The spread is a12 card circle. the one the significator  card falls on is where you look. North south east west.

 

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But the significator is related to astrology, isn't it? You mentioned Saturn for your wallet? I wouldn't know which planet to associate with my ring unless I did some research... But laying twelve cards out north south east west is doable. :)

You choose a crd that signifies the missing thing. I would use the card that signifies the planet that rules said item. Select a card you feel signifies the item.

 

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You choose a crd that signifies the missing thing. I would use the card that signifies the planet that rules said item. Select a card you feel signifies the item.

 

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Oh I SEE. I'm so sorry! That really is very straightforward! I choose a tarot card that I feel reflects/embodies the ring. I'm going to give that a go!

 

Posted

Thanks, everyone, for your help! As well as a couple of tarot spreads I've also got the pendulum option. That ring will not remain lost for long!! :D I'll let you know the outcome.

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