Raggydoll Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Is anyone else attending the free workshop that Lisa (from Divination and fortune telling) so kindly offers this Saturday? It is all about how you interpret the direction of court cards, and how they interact with each other in a reading. Sounds really interesting and I truly love all the other free stuff that Lisa is offering on her website (not only on tarot, but she has a great course on lenormand as well). Here's the link to the registration page: https://divinationandfortunetelling.com/court-card-directions-workshop (I added a screen shot of the information she had regarding the workshop. I really liked that those who can't make it to the workshop on that specific time will still be able to access everything for another 48 hours. That will also be great if someone, like myself :P, wishes to take notes)
Starlight Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 TFS. I hadn't heard of her before, so I went to her website. She has a very moving blog post there about how she start working as a tarot/lenormand reader and psychic. Should be an interesting workshop!
Raggydoll Posted January 10, 2018 Author Posted January 10, 2018 I hope so too, Emilija. We can discuss it here afterwards and share notes with those who missed it :)
Saturn Celeste Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Is anyone else attending the free workshop that Lisa (from Divination and fortune telling) so kindly offers this Saturday? It is all about how you interpret the direction of court cards, and how they interact with each other in a reading. Sounds really interesting and I truly love all the other free stuff that Lisa is offering on her website (not only on tarot, but she has a great course on lenormand as well). Here's the link to the registration page: https://divinationandfortunetelling.com/court-card-directions-workshop (I added a screen shot of the information she had regarding the workshop. I really liked that those who can't make it to the workshop on that specific time will still be able to access everything for another 48 hours. That will also be great if someone, like myself :P, wishes to take notes) Thank you Raggydoll, I joined! ;D See you Saturday!
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 Thanks for the heads up, Raggydoll! I already signed up and confirmed. This falls on a Saturday night here and I might have some things to attend to then, so it's good that I have the option of watching a recording. But heck, it's only 30 minutes so I guess I can just find a quiet place somewhere and drop by. :D
Raggydoll Posted January 11, 2018 Author Posted January 11, 2018 This is taken from Lisa Boswells latest newsletter called 10 things court cards can represent. I think it gives an idea of what we might expect from her workshop. "Courts are funny Tarot cards which are in a class of their own. However, they are also classed as Minors BUT somewhat halfway to Majors. The fact they cannot fit nicely in a neat little box makes them very confusing. One thing which makes Tarot Courts special is their ability to be read multiple ways. The possibility that you can interpret each Court differently, in different readings for different reasons makes Court cards both amazing and terrifying at the same time. Therefore you’re probably wondering, “What are Tarot Court cards”? and, “How do I read Tarot Court cards”? In general, Tarot Courts are the ‘people’ of the Tarot and mostly represent people in your life. However, they don’t always symbolize people and can be a multitude of things. Here, I am going to share with you the top 10 ways which Tarot Courts can be read, and different things they can represent. The Seeker One of the most common things for a Court to symbolize, is the seeker i.e. the person who is getting the reading. If you’re reading for someone else, they are the seeker but if you’re reading for yourself, you are your own seeker. The reason why Courts often represent the person getting the reading, is because many of the Tarot spreads out there now-a-days ask self-development questions. Typically, if you’re performing a spread on a personal development issue, all of the Courts will be aspects of your personality. When you do self-development readings such as, “What can I do to improve this situation”? Instead of predictive readings such as, “What will happen in this situation”? You’re essentially laying all of the action and responsibility in the seeker’s hands: they alone are responsible for the actions they take. By contrast, in predictive readings, you are opening your seeker up to outside help and influences. Which brings me to my next point. Another Person Another common thing for Tarot readers to read on, is their seeker’s relationships with other people. For example, their love lives, friendships, family quarrels and readings about business associates all fall into this camp. It is normal in these situations for Courts to be evenly split for who they symbolize. For example, half of the Courts could be the seeker but the other half could be their partner/lover/cat or whoever they are getting readings on. Tarot readings such as, “Will my lover come back”? or “Will I get that promotion”? Fall into this category. An Outside Person Sometimes, you will be performing a reading on a situation which will have an outside person’s input. For example, you might be doing a Tarot reading on a supposedly monogamous relationship, but infidelity is involved. In these cases, the Court cards can symbolize the seeker, their lover AND an outside person who has a say in the matter. A Situation There will be times when a Tarot Court represents a situation; it is a frequent occurrence for the Knight of Wands to mark a move of house or a Page of Cups to predict the birth of a child. I tend to only read Courts as situations if there are other cards to support this. In the Knight of Wands case, I would only read him as a move of home if there were other ‘new home’ cards (such as a 4 of Wands) to back up this interpretation. A Course of Action Courts can offer advice for a course of action the seeker should take or personality traits they should take on in the situation which you’re reading/talking about. A Knight of Swords could mean that the Tarot cards advise they move quick in a situation before an opportunity evaporates. Or a Knight of Pentacles could be advising that they move slowly, take their time etc. A Positive Tarot Courts can represent someone’s positive attributes. For example, a Queen of Cups would be the card of an individual who is super caring and empathetic. Her appearance in a Tarot reading could mean that the seeker is going to meet someone like the Queen of Cups who is going to help them in some way. Or the seeker could be the one who puts the needs of others first and their considerate nature could pay off at a later date. A Negative Just as a Tarot Court card symbolize someone’s positive attributes, they can also represent their negative attributes. The Queen of Cups is caring but she can also have a jealous and possessive side to her. Perhaps, when she appears as a negative in a Tarot reading, this warns of someone who is envious of the seeker. Or the seeker could be the one who is the green eyed monster and needs to tone it down a bit. Time It is rather uncommon, but there are Tarot readers who take Court cards to represent time. In general, they might read the Swords to symbolize wintertime. If it is the case that Swords are metaphoric for winter, then each Court would show a particular time frame. For example, a Page of Swords would be early winter, Knight of Swords would represent early-mid winter, the Queen of Swords would symbolize mid-late winter and the King of Swords would be the card of late winter. Maturity I often read Tarot Courts to reflect someone’s level of maturity. Obviously, reading them this way means that I can also read them one of the other ways. For example, I might take a Court to be the seeker’s lover and then read the ‘grade’ (King, Queen, Knight or Page) to reveal their maturity. For example, let’s say that we have a seeker, Rhonda. She comes to us for a reading and she wants to know about a guy she has met, Sam. We do a reading and three of the spread positions are: 1. How she seen him in the past: 6 of Cups 2. How she sees him in the present: King of Wands 3. How she will see him in the future: Page of Wands Or even 4. How he is: Page of Wands I would read the above reading as a bad omen. To have a lover (or anyone) appear as a King in the past or present but then a Page in the future, usually means there is some sort of regression when it comes to that person’s maturity. In Rhonda’s mind, she is currently seeing Sam as the King of Wands; responsible and mature with his shit together. However, in the future she finds out that he is really not how she imagined; Sam is selfish, does things spur of the moment, likes to hang out with his friends etc. And the Page in the future reflects Rhonda finding out about these personality traits which she so kindly overlooked previously because A. she was wearing her rose tinted glasses and B. Because Sam is a charmer. Regression of Courts can reflect a lack of maturity and the opposite is also true. Let’s say we have a guy called Jose who comes to us for a reading. Jose is dating a younger female, Melissa. The age didn’t used to bother him but he has noticed one or two things he isn’t so keen on. She requires lots of attention, is needy and is always on her iPhone. For the same spread as Sam and Rhonda, Jose and Melissa got; 1. How she seen him in the past: Page of Cups 2. How she sees him in the present: 7 of Pentacles 3. How she will see him in the future: Queen of Cups This spread would tell me that up until fairly recently, Melissa had displayed childish behavior (Page of Cups) but she is evolving for the long-term (7 of Pentacles). In the future, she will be more mature and sensitive to other people’s needs (Queen of Cups). However, I can’t guarantee Jose that she’ll put down the iPhone any time soon! A Gatekeeper I am frequently asked, “What does it mean when a Court card appears in the outcome position of a Tarot reading?” And my answer is usually this, “that person is a gatekeeper”. As I have said above, Courts appear because they represent someone who has some sort of influence on a situation. However, there will be many times when an individual holds the entire outcome of an issue in their hands. They are the gatekeeper who controls whether a relationship, job, opportunity thrives or dies. When these Courts pop up in outcome positions, this can serve as either a reminder or a warning that this person holds the key. Your seeker can do what they want and bob along but ultimately it is this gatekeeper who will change the fate of a situation and can turn everything on its head. Therefore, your cards are giving you a gentle nudge to tell your seeker to keep this person happy because their future depends on it! Final Thoughts Remember, if you are trying to interpret Courts, you should trust your intuition and do what feels right for you at the time. But I will say that it is good to know some techniques! In the Court Card Direction workshop, we will be going over some techniques for discerning between what a Court card represent, even if your seeker is sitting there cross armed not saying anything!"
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 This begins in just a few hours. Curious as to how this would go.
Starlight Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 This begins in just a few hours. Curious as to how this would go. It starts 10pm Western Australian time, so there's about 9 hours to go. I'm looking forward to it! :)
Raggydoll Posted January 13, 2018 Author Posted January 13, 2018 Here it will be around three in the afternoon, so yes - about nine hours to go. Looking forward to it !
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 Seven hours to go. Btw kudos to you for posting that article, Raggydoll. At least we now know what Lisa's ideas are re: court cards, so that at the very least we'd have some context through which we can follow the ideas she'll present in her workshop.
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 Was anyone able to watch it live? How was it? I had something up during that time so I just downloaded the 53+ minute video for later viewing.
Starlight Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 I didn't get to it live, unfortunately. Something came up. But it's available for another 48 hours so I'll get to it tomorrow. How did you download it, EmpyreanKnight[/member] ?
faerybraids Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 I managed to catch it! Not completely sure how, but I managed. (I'm not a morning person, it started at 6am here. @_@ ) I haven't attended a tarot workshop before, so I'm not sure how helpful my review of it will be, but it felt nice to feel like I was back in uni again, haha. I've always loved attending workshops and taking notes. I enjoyed it. :) It was simple and informative, with some example spreads to illustrate what she was talking about. She rambles a bit, but overall there was also much less filler than I've experienced with some other (non-tarot-related) workshops, which was nice. I thought she made good use of the fifty minutes or so of time she was talking for. Got a couple pages of clear notes out of it without having to worry about missing much (thanks to the bit of repetition and rambling) yet didn't sit there thinking 'Oh come on with it' at any point.
Saturn Celeste Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 I'm so bad with these kind of things anymore. I missed it live but will catch up later today or first thing tomorrow!
Raggydoll Posted January 13, 2018 Author Posted January 13, 2018 I watched it and I liked it! She had lots to say and spoke rather quickly so I'm glad that I can go back and watch it again. The first twenty minutes was more about her story in general, and her experiences with court cards in particular. So I won't have to watch that bit again. The things that I found really interesting was her techniques for interpreting court card interactions. (I use court card interactions in my readings as well but approach it slightly differently, so it was interesting to hear her take on it). She had several very basic two-card examples, like for instance: two upright courts that are facing each other would imply two people that like each other and get along well (this could be either a romantic relationship or just co-workers/friends). And if they are both upright but are facing different directions (backs against one another) then that could imply that they are not as friendly or they are not so inclined to socialize with each other. That's all simple enough. But then she gets into the more interesting combinations, like if both cards are reversed or if one card is upright and the other is reversed. And all the different combinations of when they are facing or not facing each other. She interpret reversed court cards as people that are more secretive or less open about their feelings (people that are more inclined to keep up appearances, play games with others or just don't like public display of affection). Two reversed courts that are looking at each other could imply two coworkers that only socialize outside of their job (without anyone else knowing about it), or two very unlikely friends. But also the obvious - a secret love affair. On the other hand, two reversed courts that are not looking at each other could mean two people that don't get along but that have chosen not to talk openly about their problems. (Like a married couple that fights a lot in private, but keeps up appearances in their social circle). And she also gives examples for when there is a third card in between two courts. That card is then representing the nature of their communication or relationship. (She specifically talks about when an (upright) king and queen has 8 of wands in between them. To her, that would signify a relationship were they are able to communicate well and rapidly). And if there is three court cards in a row, like a king and a queen and a page, then that might represent a family (or a love drama!). And if the queen sits in the middle with her back to the king (and her gaze towards the page) then it might show a woman that often sides with her child but argue with her husband. Or a woman that has a younger lover. Or... you get the picture! Another really interesting technique is when you decide (before you draw your cards) what suit of court cards will represent your querent. For instance, if your querent asks about love, then you could decide that every court card from the Cups suit (that would show up in the reading) is representing your client. And the actual rank of that court would indicate the way your client is behaving in this particular situation. So if you get a page of cups in the "past" and a king of cups in the "present", then that would indicate that this person has become more mature. Likewise, if you would draw a queen of cups in the "obstacles" position, then it is very likely that your client is the one that is standing in his or her own way. And any other courts that aren't cups, would in this case be other people that are involved in the situation. She also gives another method that would work well in larger spreads. That's were you decide what rank will represent the querent. So for instance, if its a female, then every queen that shows up in the reading would represent her. And each of those queens would show different aspects of the querent and her life. So if there is a queen of swords near work-cards, then you can deduce that your clients acts as a queen of swords in work related situations. (And you would also take into account if that queen is upright or reversed, and if she is facing the other card or not). But then there might be a queen of pentacles near cards that represent families or children, and that would suggest that your querent has a softer side to her when she is at home with her family. And so on. I'm not sure how well I described all of this. I think Lisa did a great job with this workshop. It felt really meaty and I am glad that I was able to participate!
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 How did you download it, EmpyreanKnight[/member] ? Certain software apps/programs allow you to download videos off a web page. You can find one that's compatible for your laptop or even smartphone. Btw to make sure that you don't get into any trouble, any video that you download must strictly be for personal use only so make sure that you don't distribute it, Starlight.
Mi-Shell Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 I also managed to watch the video. It was a bit tedious due to her accent - but I think, that was just me..... She spend a long time talking about all her insecurities, anxieties and "just winging a reading" I hope, professional readers do not just wing it...... She did a good job, explaining court cards and a few different way as to how to work with them. For me personally there was nothing new in her presentation, but I think beginning readers will find her video quite helpful. :)
Starlight Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 How did you download it, EmpyreanKnight[/member] ? Certain software apps/programs allow you to download videos off a web page. You can find one that's compatible for your laptop or even smartphone. Btw to make sure that you don't get into any trouble, any video that you download must strictly be for personal use only so make sure that you don't distribute it, Starlight. Thanks, EmpyreanKnight[/member] - yup, it's just for my own personal use and just in case I don't get to watch it in the next 48 hours, what with family responsibilities - and what looks to be a bushfire very close to home.... :o
Saturn Celeste Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 She spend a long time talking about all her insecurities, anxieties and "just winging a reading" I hope, professional readers do not just wing it...... I just watched it and honestly felt the same way. But through her insecurity she did have resolve with her technique. It was interesting! Raggydoll[/member] you described it really well! I concentrate more on the energy of the court cards because I do it by email but when they appear in a reading I feel obligated to include a mention of actual people in their reading also. It really depends on the other cards in the readings.
Saturn Celeste Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 How did you download it, EmpyreanKnight[/member] ? Certain software apps/programs allow you to download videos off a web page. You can find one that's compatible for your laptop or even smartphone. Btw to make sure that you don't get into any trouble, any video that you download must strictly be for personal use only so make sure that you don't distribute it, Starlight. I have a suite dvdvideo soft that I use to download vids. ;) https://www.dvdvideosoft.com/
Starlight Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 How did you download it, EmpyreanKnight[/member] ? Certain software apps/programs allow you to download videos off a web page. You can find one that's compatible for your laptop or even smartphone. Btw to make sure that you don't get into any trouble, any video that you download must strictly be for personal use only so make sure that you don't distribute it, Starlight. I have a suite dvdvideo soft that I use to download vids. ;) https://www.dvdvideosoft.com/ Thank you, SaturnCeleste!
Starlight Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 I did get round to watching Lisa Boswell's tutorial, and I liked it! I'm not a professional reader, so seeing how she used reversals and the directions courts faced in groups of two and three cards was very insightful. She also broke the techniques up into categories which depended on whether or not the querent was interactive or more close-mouthed and on what sort of question they were asking - was it predictive or more about insight into how they could act (taking responsibility for their own actions and outcomes). It was good. :)
Emilija Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 I have to say that I did not really like it. I couldn't focus the first twenty minutes and I felt bored with her stories. The only thing I really took from it was technique 1. I thought that was interesting. I really didn't understand technique 2. I *kind of* understood technique 3 and 4. Overall, I don't think I took away that much from it.
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