What's The Postman Bringing? Part 2

[Eugenie]

@FindYourSovereignty, thank you! That's what I thought - since we (me and my girls) learn on books about RWS, we need to have the classic decks, otherwise many descriptions in the books just don't make sense. Rachel Pollack describes each card; what't the point for me in trying to read her books while having the Spacious Tarot in front of me? Fortunately for me, I find the classic RWS beautiful and have no issues with using it. 

I will be sure to share impressions from the Little Czech deck. To me, it is very nostalgic, as the Czech are culturally close to my own background, so much of the aesthetics of that deck is very close to me. So this deck is not something strange or exotic but like coming home. People say it leans on the negative side; we'll see. 

 

I am glad you got a Darkness of Light deck! and at a low price! My own "as is" deck looks perfect to me, I could not find any deficiencies. Of course it already looks dark, murky, full of mist, so I guess small defects can be masked by that. A stunning deck, I am happy that I have mine, and I was even tempted to buy a backup (but slapped myself on the wrist; I don't use them as much as to wear them out in several months). 

 

And I have just checked that Journey to Oz & Wonderland deck: it is fabulous! Delightfully quirky and unusual. I need to pay attention to what you want/buy, because it seems that I love many of your favorites. 

[FindYourSovereignty]

@Eugenie, I ordered the Darkness of Light as soon as I read your post about the ‘as-is’ deck. 😊 I’ve wanted it for awhile now, but do not need it. I am on a buying hiatus for the year, but this was incentive. I cannot wait to see it in person tomorrow.

 

We do appear to have similar interests in decks. I have heard the same about the Czech deck. It will be interesting to hear if that is true.
 

Happy Reading! 

[Sar]

I could not resist

I just had to do it.

I today purchased the Mildred Paynes Secret Oracle, deluxe version. 88 cards. Now this will be fun exploring. 

I would love to buy the X-Ray version one day too, since its more nocturnal caracther fascinates me.

Edited January 31, 2024 by Sar

[akiva]

1 hour ago, Sar said:

I could not resist

I just had to do it.

I today purchased the Mildred Paynes Secret Oracle, deluxe version. 88 cards. Now this will be fun exploring. 

I would love to buy the X-Ray version one day too, since its more nocturnal caracther fascinates me.

Ooh this has been on my wish list for a while! Do let us know how it reads, it might tempt me enough to buy it 😉

[Sar]

1 hour ago, akiva said:

Ooh this has been on my wish list for a while! Do let us know how it reads, it might tempt me enough to buy it 😉

 

I will of course try it out here too. What I have seen of this deck, it seems like a dark step sister of Lenormand. A fun, but sinister feel.

Edited January 31, 2024 by Sar

[akiva]

1 hour ago, Sar said:

 

I will of course try it out here too. What I have seen of this deck, it seems like a dark step sister of Lenormand. A fun, but sinister feel.

I look forward to it 😁 good luck! A dark step sister to lenormand sounds fun

[Sar]

2 minutes ago, akiva said:

I look forward to it 😁 good luck! A dark step sister to lenormand sounds fun

It is 88 cards, so the deck is a mastodont. The grand tableau will indeed be grand. 

 

[Guest]

My Tarot V finally arrived. Unfortunately after that, I wasn't very much interested in any of the remaining vampire-themed decks available in the market. 

 

 

However, I did remember encountering somewhere how one reader uses Magic: The Gathering cards in divination, and is successful at it to boot. So I low-key got curious because I sorta knew about their vampire tribal. I checked them out and welp, I know that saying this would plunge whatever cachet I may have to an all-time low, but my word, those are some of the most decadent vampire art I've ever seen.

 

So for the past two weeks, I began spending on MtG stuff for the very first time. Before I knew it, I've blown almost half a grand on their vamp-related goodies. I had to import some of them from overseas pronto, and I did buy a deck focused on ghosts/spirits and another on similarly dark enchantments so yeah.

 

 

Just sad that the Innistrad line is moving out of Standard this fall. Duskmourn will rise to make up for it this Q4 though, so I have to begin budgeting wisely if I aim to dive into that lol. 

 

And yup, Imma try intuition-heavy divination techniques for the very first time, exclusively using MtG vampire cards of course. 

[rylla]

Among a few oracle cards, I've got the Mind's Eye tarot. Nice deck, although the size of the cards does not do justice to the artwork.

[Misterei]

On 1/31/2024 at 6:49 AM, Sar said:

I could not resist

I just had to do it.

Yep. What you said ... only for me it was Arlecchino's Augmented Arcana.

I have experienced YEARS of frustration b/c i adore Bolognese style decks ... but so many of the current releases are Tarocchino [abridged 60 card deck] and I am a TAROT reader. I saw this Arlecchino Tarocchino and thought ... Alas ... another deck i would buy if only it were a full tarot. *sigh*

And THEN [wait for it] I noticed the artist made an expansion which is 84 cards ... full Tarot plus some Virtues as a bonus [and who can resist a Virtue Bonus?] This deck hits for me. Bolognese style. Harlequin motif.

 

Death Cleaning be d&amned. I ordered this deck from Gamecrafters ... it won't ship until March 15. The waiting begins 😉

 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2024 by Misterei

[Eugenie]

@Misterei, what a gorgeous deck! It is just stunning! If you will be using it a lot, it is not a contradiction to the cleaning, right? Can get rid of something else... 

[Raggydoll]

3 hours ago, Misterei said:

Death Cleaning be d&amned

Haha! Well, death cleaning is about legacy and what you leave behind. It’s so that the people who are due to inherit you will have a little less difficult time but also so that they can easily find the things that were special to you. In homes where the owner kept everything - including the stuff they didn’t even particularly like - then the future generations of relatives won’t know what to remember them by. They might frantically hold onto a random tea jar simply because it belonged to their ancestor, and perhaps that ancestor wouldn’t even had remembered that tea jar in the first place. Maybe it was something they had been gifted and kept from a sense of obligation, or maybe it was an item they kept just in case they’d one day start to like the taste of tea 😁 
 

In this case though, this particular deck probably would be a good item for a future ancestor to remember you by; it says something about you and what you liked!

[Sar]

@Misterei I see what you mean, because that was a gorgeous. readable deck and I fully agree with @Raggydoll about not hoarding, but sell/gift what no longer fits and keep only the things we love.

[Misterei]

15 hours ago, Eugenie said:

@Misterei, what a gorgeous deck! It is just stunning! If you will be using it a lot, it is not a contradiction to the cleaning, right? Can get rid of something else... 

I can use my 1 in 1 out rule. I'm pretty sure there is some other deck I will sacrifice to keep this one 😉

12 hours ago, Raggydoll said:

Haha! Well, death cleaning is about legacy and what you leave behind. It’s so that the people who are due to inherit you will have a little less difficult time but also so that they can easily find the things that were special to you.

LOL well they will know the tarot collection was special ... but my goal also is ... its not so huge to be a burden for survivors to sell / donate / keep.

6 hours ago, Sar said:

@Misterei I see what you mean, because that was a gorgeous. readable deck ... not hoarding, but sell/gift what no longer fits and keep only the things we love.

Yes. In a way its a reward for all the things I have recently cut loose. Many items I was surprised to discover I didn't even like [WHY do I still have this?]. Others were genuinely painful to release ... but no longer needed. This deck appears to be a nice small thing that will give joy in its use.

[akiva]

16 hours ago, Misterei said:

Yep. What you said ... only for me it was Arlecchino's Augmented Arcana.

I have experienced YEARS of frustration b/c i adore Bolognese style decks ... but so many of the current releases are Tarocchino [abridged 60 card deck] and I am a TAROT reader. I saw this Arlecchino Tarocchino and thought ... Alas ... another deck i would buy if only it were a full tarot. *sigh*

And THEN [wait for it] I noticed the artist made an expansion which is 84 cards ... full Tarot plus some Virtues as a bonus [and who can resist a Virtue Bonus?] This deck hits for me. Bolognese style. Harlequin motif.

I've been on the fence about this deck for some time now, I didn't realise the creator had made an expansion! 😯 IIRC the pips used Etteilla's meanings for the reduced deck. Looking at it, the full deck seems to not have keywords on it, which is great! 😁

 

Wouldn't be able to order it from game crafter due to customs. Though they offer the images and guidebook for free download... So tempting! I could get it in linen cardstock! 😆

[Misterei]

3 minutes ago, akiva said:

... Looking at it, the full deck seems to not have keywords on it, which is great! 😁

Seriously. Keywords are a dealbreaker for me and I'm NOT an Eteilla fan at all.

If this deck does have keywords i will trim it.

[akiva]

9 minutes ago, Misterei said:

Seriously. Keywords are a dealbreaker for me and I'm NOT an Eteilla fan at all.

If this deck does have keywords i will trim it.

The full one (84 cards) doesn't, I downloaded the images, so you're safe on that front. The deck really is stunning!

 

I like Ettiella's meanings (they fit well with pythagorean number symbolism) but I don't like being forced to use them through keywords, as it's fun to test different systems out! 😁

[Tom]

@akiva I'm not a key word fan either, but I did buy the Tell Me Tarot because I liked the artwork. I usually avoid them, but I think they an help  newbies I have the Classic Tarot and I was looking at it today, similar to the Tarot De Marseille but older,  It has key words that would be helpful to me that also make it possible to read with reversals (reversed meaning are in the LWB).  I have had trouble reading unillustrated pips, it just takes a lot more mental processing.  A cluster of cups, sword, etc don't spawn intuitive meanings in my mind. 

[akiva]

9 hours ago, Tom said:

@akiva I'm not a key word fan either, but I did buy the Tell Me Tarot because I liked the artwork. I usually avoid them, but I think they an help  newbies I have the Classic Tarot and I was looking at it today, similar to the Tarot De Marseille but older,  It has key words that would be helpful to me that also make it possible to read with reversals (reversed meaning are in the LWB).  I have had trouble reading unillustrated pips, it just takes a lot more mental processing.  A cluster of cups, sword, etc don't spawn intuitive meanings in my mind. 

The only tarot I have with keywords is a piedmontese tarot by Dal Negro, but they're in Italian so they don't get in the way! 😆

I also wrote thylbus' keywords on a piquet deck when I was learning his system, as it was quite in depth. It served it's purpose, but I’ve learnt other piquet systems now and having a blank playing card deck is much better for swapping and changing.

 

Keyword decks are great for learning, and they are definitely useful when you're first starting, but after a while they can become a crutch. But as an intro to pip decks, definitely use it until you're comfortable. 😊

This deck arrived today (which I totally forgot I ordered 😅).

 

 

It's the Toscane regional cards by Modiano, and apparently it's 100% Italy according to the box! 🤣

A 40 card deck, Ace - 7 plus Jack, Queen, King. The court cards are beautiful and the french style pips have no index which is nice. The card stock is thick with little give to the cards. So definitely not a riffling deck!

[Misterei]

On 2/4/2024 at 12:12 PM, akiva said:

The full one (84 cards) doesn't, I downloaded the images, so you're safe on that front. The deck really is stunning!

... I like Ettiella's meanings (they fit well with pythagorean number symbolism) ...

Hmmm. I never got that ... but then again i just look at an Eteilla deck and my eyes glaze over. It's sort of like Sola Busca only I experience overwhelming boredom rather than overwhelming revulsion. I never looked into Eteilla's pips so much. I read about a para on his astrology + Majors and my mind just shut down. I know the GD / Waite system of astrology + Majors is clunky ... but god help me I'm used to it now.

 

In any case, thanks for checking that my longed-for expansion pack does NOT have keywords ... b/c I would really hate trimming 84 cards!

[DanielJUK]

I remember when the Modern Witch Tarot was being made, we were all so excited online about the 10 of Swords, it is like the perfect, internet meme, modern life card....

 

That was perfect keywords on a card!

When the deck came out, the 10 of Swords didn't have the text on it 😢. The actual cards have no keywords!

However some editions of the deck got it added as a bonus card with captions and you can buy it as a print. Only time I really wanted keywords on a card in the actual deck 🙂 .

[RunningWild]

37 minutes ago, DanielJUK said:

However some editions of the deck got it added as a bonus card with captions and you can buy it as a print. Only time I really wanted keywords on a card in the actual deck

I have one with the extra 10 of Swords and the keywords.  In fact, the only reason I got the deck is because of that one card.  Yep, I’m one of those people!  😅

[akiva]

11 hours ago, Misterei said:

Hmmm. I never got that ... but then again i just look at an Eteilla deck and my eyes glaze over. It's sort of like Sola Busca only I experience overwhelming boredom rather than overwhelming revulsion. I never looked into Eteilla's pips so much.

This made me chuckle. I don't use his deck so much, I just adopted his pip meanings (with some changes) to learn TdM while I was learning pythagorean numbers. Then weirdly found a lot of the meanings I was coming up with aligning with his meanings. Probably because he learnt from an Italian cartomancer, I think? There's definitely Greek links there. A lot of Italian tarot meanings have Etteilla vibes, but it's a bit of a chicken or the egg scenario. And a lot of Italian regional cartomancy has pythagorean vibes too. For instance 2's representing journeys/movement. That's found in a fair few systems and methods. 

 

11 hours ago, Misterei said:

In any case, thanks for checking that my longed-for expansion pack does NOT have keywords ... b/c I would really hate trimming 84 cards!

No problem, trimming decks is the worst, it requires a special kind of patience! 😅 I wonder if people maybe commented on the keyword thing so they got removed? 🤔 

[gregory]

I just got my Amazing from Pathwalker - does that count ? I'm also waiting for a KS deck but the weird mail hub they use doesn't show me WHICH !

[Misterei]

On 2/7/2024 at 1:59 AM, akiva said:

This made me chuckle. I don't use his deck so much, I just adopted his pip meanings (with some changes) to learn TdM while I was learning pythagorean numbers. Then weirdly found a lot of the meanings I was coming up with aligning with his meanings. Probably because he learnt from an Italian cartomancer, I think? There's definitely Greek links there. A lot of Italian tarot meanings have Etteilla vibes, but it's a bit of a chicken or the egg scenario. And a lot of Italian regional cartomancy has pythagorean vibes too. For instance 2's representing journeys/movement. That's found in a fair few systems and methods. 

 

No problem, trimming decks is the worst, it requires a special kind of patience! 😅 I wonder if people maybe commented on the keyword thing so they got removed? 🤔 

I had a question about this ... but moved it over to my journal so Daniel doesn't scold for going off topic };>