Starlight Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 So, I don't really use the CC. I just never gelled with "The situation/what's crossing you/what lies beneath/what crowns you", etc. jargon. It just didn't resonate at all. I have the sort of mind that if something doesn't make sense, I'm outta there. :) But I have a friend that I sometimes do readings for. And when she learned the cards, the main spread she learned was the CC, so I kinda felt this pressure on me to do a CC spread. (The pressure wasn't directly from her, I don't think, but I was definitely picking it up from somewhere. Maybe an unspoken wish on her part?) My question is: where's a good place to source a modern take on the CC that respects the traditional positions but is actually practical and makes sense in plain simple language? No crowning, crossing, or anything vague. If anyone would like to share their take on the positions, please do! I making it one of my goals in 2018 to get to grips with the CC. :) Thank you!
Raggydoll Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 I can share my mini version of the Celtic cross (the actual cross-part of it) and how I interpret those positions. The first card represents me (or the client/seeker) and the way I am right now. The second cards (that crosses the other) stands for the things in my life that will challenge me and make me evolve (this can be things that appear either as 'positive'' 'negative' or even neutral to me). The third card (to the left) represents what is behind me (more specifically, the last two months of my life, or recent events that has led up to the present situation) The fourth card (to the right) represents what is before me (the next two months) The fifth card (above) shows what I should do more of (things/behaviors that are constructive and helpful for me at this time, can be seen as advice on how to deal with the situation) The sixth card (below) shows what I should do less of (things/behaviors/people that are not good for me right now (that I might want to limit in my life, or change they way I perceive/approach it) You could certainly still add the other four cards if you want to. I would then have those cards represent whatever else it is I more specifically want to know (like, one card could stand for love/relationships, another for work/money/education, and another for spiritual/inner work and the last one might be a traditional "outcome" or perhaps final advice. Make it relevant to you or to the seeker. And make sure you really understand what each position means before you lay out your cards. If you don't, then you will have a really hard time grasping the answers.
Page of Ghosts Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 In my Joan Bunning book there is a more down to earth version of the CC. There are many variations of this spread if you wish to use it. I think it can be fun on the rare occasion, butr in general I prefer smaller spreads than the CC. Here is Bunnings breakdown of the spread. She has suggestions on how to interpret each of the 10 positions in very plain language that I think you might find interesting: http://www.learntarot.com/ccross.htm
Starlight Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 Raggydoll[/member] - thank you for sharing your take on the positions. They make complete sense, and the positions of the cards echo the meanings of those positions, making it easy to remember what each means. I like it! I can definitely work with this. :) Thank you again.
Starlight Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 Here is Bunnings breakdown of the spread. She has suggestions on how to interpret each of the 10 positions in very plain language that I think you might find interesting: http://www.learntarot.com/ccross.htm Thanks, Page of Ghosts[/member]. Bunning's breakdown is very thorough as well as being clear and concise because she gives four different possible meanings for each position. I suppose the nature of the card is what determines which positional meaning to use. This is quite meaty and you're absolutely right - it's not an everyday type of spread. I prefer three cards myself but knowing how to read a CC is worthwhile. It's sort of par for the course if you're read tarot cards. Thanks again! :)
Alta Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 MeeWah did a talk on the CC at the Melbourne Tarot Conference years ago. I know that I still have the notes somewhere, if I can find them I’ll post. I think that CC can be useful, but best to be clear in your mind what you want each position to refer to. “What crowns you”, so does that mean ‘best outcome’, ‘the querent’s highest good’, ‘next steps’ ???
Page of Ghosts Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 Here is Bunnings breakdown of the spread. She has suggestions on how to interpret each of the 10 positions in very plain language that I think you might find interesting: http://www.learntarot.com/ccross.htm Thanks, Page of Ghosts[/member]. Bunning's breakdown is very thorough as well as being clear and concise because she gives four different possible meanings for each position. I suppose the nature of the card is what determines which positional meaning to use. This is quite meaty and you're absolutely right - it's not an everyday type of spread. I prefer three cards myself but knowing how to read a CC is worthwhile. It's sort of par for the course if you're read tarot cards. Thanks again! :) I agree with Estelle that it might be best to decide what each position is beforehand, but now you have a big list to choose from that isn't ye olde timey mystical jargon ;)
Starlight Posted January 13, 2018 Author Posted January 13, 2018 I agree with Estelle that it might be best to decide what each position is beforehand, but now you have a big list to choose from that isn't ye olde timey mystical jargon ;) Absolutely! Bunning's list is a BIG help, so thank you. I really appreciate it. :)
Starlight Posted January 13, 2018 Author Posted January 13, 2018 MeeWah did a talk on the CC at the Melbourne Tarot Conference years ago. I know that I still have the notes somewhere, if I can find them I’ll post. I think that CC can be useful, but best to be clear in your mind what you want each position to refer to. “What crowns you”, so does that mean ‘best outcome’, ‘the querent’s highest good’, ‘next steps’ ??? Thanks, Estelle. Yes, I've gotten some great resources to help me re-frame how I understand the traditional position meanings. Choosing those before I lay down the cards will be a big help. :)
faerybraids Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 If you don't mind me adding another resource, the CC I use is the one Danielle includes in her Starchild Tarot booklet, though you can also find a free download of the spread (and several others) here. :) I was pretty adverse to using any CC spread before because they just didn't seem to click for me, but I've done several readings using her version with some pretty great results. A couple of her cards do have different placements to other versions of the CC I've seen, but I'm sure you could lay them out in whatever order you want and still use her placement meanings.
Starlight Posted January 14, 2018 Author Posted January 14, 2018 Lovely - thanks, faerybraids[/member]! That's much appreciated. I will check the link out. It's reassuring to hear that you also had some issues with the CC initially and overcame them. :)
faerybraids Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Lovely - thanks, faerybraids[/member]! That's much appreciated. I will check the link out. It's reassuring to hear that you also had some issues with the CC initially and overcame them. :) No problem! :) I'm glad you brought the topic up, I'm gonna be checking out what the others posted as well.
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