On 6/22/2024 at 4:53 AM, ViviennePrintice said:

I like the deck but not Crowley. I researched him in the 1980s and his calling himself “The Beast 666” and the fact that he brutally hurt women with extreme bdsm still repulses me. He was known as the most “Wicked man in the world”.

 

Scholarship has moved on greatly since the 1980's with numerous biographies being written that present Crowley and his life in a more balanced and nuanced way. But the caricature of infamy that was created mostly by the tabloid press of his day lives on. It takes an open and inquisitive mind to be prepared to see through this. 

 

I'm not sure where you are going with your comments about bdsm. While it's not my cup of tea, it is a perfectly valid form of sexual expression for those people who are attracted to it. (Maybe even some members of this very forum.) While you can try to use it as a stick to beat Crowley with, he would have probably enjoyed it.

 

On 6/22/2024 at 4:53 AM, ViviennePrintice said:

I don’t toot any Satanist’s horn.

 

What exactly do you mean by Satanist? Crowley rejected the Judeo-Christian worldview which includes Satan. While Crowley famously declared, "The Devil does not exist," he was well aware that ignorant and superstitious people in the past ascribed evil and devilish intent to all manner of innocent things. To this end he decided to "let names stand as they are." It is an incredibly effective filter mechanism for people of a certain mindset.       

On 6/22/2024 at 5:53 AM, ViviennePrintice said:

I like the deck but not Crowley. I researched him in the 1980s and his calling himself “The Beast 666” and the fact that he brutally hurt women with extreme bdsm still repulses me. He was known as the most “Wicked man in the world”. 
Yes, he knew Magick (orders & ceremonial) (and created Thelema) very well but I don’t toot his horn. I don’t toot any Satanist’s horn. Nor do I spread information about what he did with Magick but neglect to inform others of the reality his evil nature. Transparency is key and being responsible is crucial.

I hope this helps someone know what kind of 

vile man Crowley was.

 

Blessed Be 🌒🌕🌘🪶🪶🪶

 

While everyone here is allowed to have an opinion, can I please remind you to stay on topic? We are not discussing Crowley here. Ok? Thank you for your understanding.

On 6/23/2024 at 1:27 PM, joy said:

 

While everyone here is allowed to have an opinion, can I please remind you to stay on topic? We are not discussing Crowley here. Ok? Thank you for your understanding.

 

Respectfully, what I said about Crowley is not just opinion, dear.

 

I forgot about that topic thing, sorry about that. 

Blessed be 🌖🌕🌔🧹💫

 

Edited July 18, 20242 yr by ViviennePrintice