Moon-Hermit Posted August 29, 2024 Posted August 29, 2024 I was studying the imagery of the cards more closely today, and two questions popped up in my head while I was studying Rider Waite’s Chariot card in particular. 1. In terms of the Astrology: If we look at the belt the male figure is wearing, we notice four signs; one of them is cancer obviously, and the far right we have the moon. Left to the moon, there’s a symbol I see as a flash to the left (tell me if I’m wrong) and on the far right, we have a sign that looks either like the north node or leo, I’m not sure which. I wanted to ask if what I’m seeing makes sense at all, or if I’m just being too deep? Also, do the signs on the figure’s lower clothing mean anything? If so, what? 2. In terms of Symbolism and interpretation: While I was studying the two crescent moons on his shoulders, I noticed that one of them is smiling while the other looks almost upset. Can this mean balancing the two facets of our personality? The dark persona vs the light persona. The chariot itself represents a water sign, and is even surrounded by water itself. He also holds a wand similar to the magician’s, although it’s blue in color. So maybe we could interpret it as taking conscious action/using one’s will in order to bring two contradicting forces into harmony? Maybe that’s how he can drive the chariot: The one being the material tool, fueled by his own inner opposing forces, put from the unconscious mind to the conscious.
SilverFox Posted August 29, 2024 Posted August 29, 2024 (edited) #7 Chariot - it's triumph of the winner. And that's all.....this is a classic....Work ! Just Do It ! Edited August 29, 2024 by SilverFox
Moon-Hermit Posted August 29, 2024 Author Posted August 29, 2024 10 minutes ago, SilverFox said: #7 Chariot - it's triumph of the winner. And that's all.....this is a classic....Work ! Just Do It ! Thank you @SilverFox🙏 OMG I love the beats, really matches the vibe! 😂😁
DanielJUK Posted August 29, 2024 Posted August 29, 2024 I've moved this thread to the Individual Card Meanings area of the forum, it's the best place for discussing cards and comparing them
Misterei Posted August 29, 2024 Posted August 29, 2024 4 hours ago, Moon-Hermit said: 1. In terms of the Astrology: If we look at the belt the male figure is wearing, we notice four signs; one of them is cancer obviously, and the far right we have the moon. Left to the moon, there’s a symbol I see as a flash to the left (tell me if I’m wrong) and on the far right, we have a sign that looks either like the north node or leo, On a general note, Cancer is ruled by Moon and Moon is affected by North Node as caput draconis / Rahu cases Lunar eclipse. Sun / Leo symbolism might make sense as Sun/Moon polarity in alchemy. But I can't see the belt symbols clearly [too small] and have never read a good explanation of its symbolism.
Moon-Hermit Posted August 30, 2024 Author Posted August 30, 2024 11 hours ago, Misterei said: On a general note, Cancer is ruled by Moon and Moon is affected by North Node as caput draconis / Rahu cases Lunar eclipse. Sun / Leo symbolism might make sense as Sun/Moon polarity in alchemy. But I can't see the belt symbols clearly [too small] and have never read a good explanation of its symbolism. Thank you so much for explaining, @Misterei.🙏 I’ll definitely look into its astrology further. Here’s a high resolution picture of the Chariot I could find on the internet, just in case you wanted to take a look.
Misterei Posted August 30, 2024 Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) @Moon-Hermit It's quite frustrating. The first two *might* be Leo and Cancer -- but then what are the other glyphs? And it might be Rahu on one end and Moon on the other? Per my originial post. If it's Rahu and Moon, its about Lunar eclipse If it's Leo/Cancer then it's alchemy Sun Moon. I would hazard the guess that it's more alchemical [Leo/Cancer] becuase alchemical symbolism has always been hidden in Tarot even before Waite. Most Tarot decks don't delve into the lunar nodes. But I'm making an educated guess. Without understanding the full symbol set --- who can say? Ugh! Edited August 30, 2024 by Misterei
Chariot Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 (edited) Not only do I have my sun sign in Cancer, but according to the numerical calculations I did while reading Mary K Greer's Tarot For Your Self, The Chariot is also my lifetime Personality/Soul card. I do feel that is correct for me. I'm not sure of all the symbolism on the RWS card, but for me The Chariot has always meant 'the vehicle.' In other words, HOW do I travel the world? How do I present myself? How do I like to get things done? How do I get where I want to go? Some Chariot cards in other decks portray the Charioteer as driving an insanely spirited couple of horses. One deck I often use depicts the Chariot as springing off the earth and rocketing into the sky. However, that's not how I see this card. For me, The Chariot is about being in control of my vehicle. I want to decide for myself how I present to the world, how I drive through it, as well as—of course—my ultimate destination. So I do like the RWS card because the Charioteer is calm, and seems to be in control over the beings (sphinxes?) that are pulling his vehicle. For me, this card isn't about enthusiastically dashing off somewhere. It's about doing things 'my way.' I have no interest whatsoever in controlling other people. But I do have a lot of interest in controlling my own life, circumstances, and what happens to me. Interestingly, my lifetime 'shadow' card I got (via the calculations) in the Mary K Greer book is The Tower. And yes, this is the card I most hate to get. It means I have no control over what happens to me (at a given time) ...and I really don't like that feeling! It is truly the opposite of The Chariot, for me. Edited September 1, 2024 by Chariot
Misterei Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 11 hours ago, Chariot said: ... I do have a lot of interest in controlling my own life, circumstances, and what happens to me. Interestingly, my lifetime 'shadow' card I got (via the calculations) in the Mary K Greer book is The Tower. And yes, this is the card I most hate to get. It means I have no control over what happens to me (at a given time) ...and I really don't like that feeling! It is truly the opposite of The Chariot, for me. Interesting comparison of these cards. They are related numerologically, of course, but I never considered the control / no control aspect. It hits. Thanks!
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