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Adamgee75
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I’m wondering what your interpretations of the sun are? Upright and reversed.

 

Its coming up a lot in my spreads, I’m new to this.

DanielJUK
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I've moved this thread to the correct area to discuss individual cards 😀

JoyousGirl
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What does the booklet say? Which one of the keywords/sentences matches the question best?

DanielJUK
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This section of the forum is for discussing the meanings of a card. We presume they know they can look it up online or the deck booklet.

What are your ideas and interpretations of The Sun?

Pierre-Yves
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The Sun is a card that I still find difficult to fully grasp. Here is what I understand: It is said that this card represents the archetype of the father, the one who warms us, nourishes us, and from whom we hope for recognition. The sun illuminates the shadows. It invites us to see reality as it is. By revealing our shadow side, the sun invites us to become who we are, whole. This could be the image of the twins in the Marseille tarot or the child on the horse in the Rider-Waite.

 

The joy that the sun brings us is free and available to all. We need only open our arms to feel its warmth and open our eyes to see its light. But the sun can also burn, especially if we exploit what it offers us to excess.

November
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Well, this is not card I like, it's quite cynical with me. When I happened to pull The Sun, it was because I were in a situation where reality hit me in the face and it was bad news, but at least I finally knew how things actually were. It's a card of clarity indeed, for better or for worse.

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57 minutes ago, November said:

Well, this is not card I like, it's quite cynical with me. When I happened to pull The Sun, it was because I were in a situation where reality hit me in the face and it was bad news, but at least I finally knew how things actually were. It's a card of clarity indeed, for better or for worse.

It's not a card I particularly like either.  I always get the impulse to grab the sunshade when The Sun card pops up.  It's interesting that so many depictions of the Sun, which naturally illuminates everything far and wide in real life, usually is shown in a very constricted tarot environment.  You get to see a close-up view of a happy child on a horse (or whatever other symbol the card's designer chose) but nothing much beyond that.  The brightness of the sun actually obscures the long view.  I do actually prefer the reversed card, which implies a dimming of the Sun's light ...which I find more comfortable.

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JoyousGirl
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11 hours ago, November said:

reality hit me in the face

@November this is a really good choice of words.  It speaks of the enlightenment aspect. I'm going on a ramble here.

 

Both the Sun and Lightning (in the Tower) are incredibly bright lights. They illuminate.  The Tower is an upsetting flash, a light that is there and gone in an instant.  The Sun is more of a coming to consciousness gradually - think of the way it rises and sets - its more steady than the storm with lightning that is here and gone. Your words made me think of going from a dark room/indoors and walking out into the blinding light. You need a little time adjusting.

 

The Sun is either a child on a horse or a pair of twins. Nakedness is a feature. That can speak to an integration of anima/animus that may have external impacts. (Sunburn - surface changes that can lead to internal changes). 

 

The child is integrated and perfect already, seemingly - it 'divides' as it gets older. Joy and exhilaration are inherent already.

 

Going back to my old reflections (I wrote myself a little book years ago but never refer to it). In terms of who's in the pictures - There's only one child in the RWS image, but he's riding a horse, instincts - or is it the noble higher self?  So there's 2 aspects to us - our self - the wild horse and the child; or in the case of the Sun card imagery with twins, anima and animus. We are our physical flesh but also a spirit watching over our flesh (the sun itself). 

 

The twins might speak to the integration process, and how each integration of opposites into ourselves gives us a sense of wholeness and success. 

 

11 hours ago, Chariot said:

which naturally illuminates everything far and wide in real life, usually is shown in a very constricted tarot environment.

@Chariot 

it may be that this is because there is a rising of the sun in the self. The card also represents birth. So it's a personal thing - our little garden of life is ours to till.  It doesn't really include the rest of the world (although it does if we consider that everything is one and we are all part of a whole) "There's no coming to consciousness without pain" so that might be something about the light and consciousness. At the end of the sunny day we reflect (the Moon) and while we might not have enjoyed what the day brought, we're wiser because of it. Our garden has grown, but sometimes seedlings fail. 

 

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8 hours ago, JoyousGirl said:

 

 

@Chariot 

it may be that this is because there is a rising of the sun in the self. The card also represents birth. So it's a personal thing - our little garden of life is ours to till.  It doesn't really include the rest of the world (although it does if we consider that everything is one and we are all part of a whole) "There's no coming to consciousness without pain" so that might be something about the light and consciousness. At the end of the sunny day we reflect (the Moon) and while we might not have enjoyed what the day brought, we're wiser because of it. Our garden has grown, but sometimes seedlings fail. 

 

I like that.  Maybe I should stop fighting the 'up close' aspect of most Sun cards, and embrace the fact that The Sun card does relate to an up close and personal experience, and does not depict a long-distance sunny view.  I think that will work for me.  

I guess I just wonder why the same decks usually provide a long-distance view of 'The Moon' and 'The Star.'  Both of these card treatments imply distances ...even though the distance in The Moon card is unclear as to detail.  I would have expected The Sun card to do the same, only to illuminate the distances in warm, sunny light, with clarity of vision.  

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To me, the Sun represents primarily a) joy, exuberance, childlike playfulness, having fun, b) healing, c) attainment of some spiritual goal, therefore your light is shining a little brighter. Reversed, it would make me think of someone who is struggling to find joy in their lives. In this sense, the Sun is similar to the Star, but the Star for me is more about regaining hope or being inspired, finding inspiration again in life. You can also draw parallels between The Star and the 3 of Cups and the 6 of Wands--celebration, achievement, joy. 

 

For a while, I struggled to differentiate the Sun and the Star, but now when I see the Sun I think (joy, healing, personal glory) and when I see the Star I think (hope, inspiration, improvement)... they are very similar, though, at least in my mind. 

Grizabella
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If it keeps coming up in readings both upright and reversed positions, then there must be other of the cards that come up repeatedly  at the same time.  What I suggest is that you do more readings, but use named positions for each card in the spread.  Write down your question, your spreads and where the cards fell, and which were reversals and which were not.  Date the reading and make notes as to what happened that day. Do this for----say----a week.  Then go back and have a look through the readings and consider everything you see there.  Ponder over it if need be.  Take your time and see what you find in the bigger picture., In order to learn Tarot, it's very important that you sharpen your focus.  I can't stress strongly enough how important it is to make your question precise.   Don't just think "hmmm, I wonder what I can expect when I see my friend next week" and then just plop down a few cards without positional meanings.  You have to pin-point your question as well as what in particular you wonder about.

 

I'm seeing John on Wednesday next week. 

 

What can I expect if we go to Bingo?

 

What can I expect if we go swimming in the ocean?

 

What can I expect if we choose to go to a movie?

 

I'm kind of lame on thinking things up on the spur of the moment but you probably get the idea.  You can't just have a vague "wondering" about nothing specific and ---nothing specific--- and nothing specific---and expect answers.  You have to be honest with yourself about exactly what you want to know.  It just works better that way Then it's much  easier to know what the cards are saying and much easier to figure out what multiple cards are saying.

 

Let's say we're really wondering if there will be any romantic moves.  We haven't specified that in our spread positions, though, so we're still not likely to understand the cards drawn.

 

Making your spread as pinpoint as possible and naming positions as well as keeping a written record and studying it will help you immensely.

 

Good luck!  You'll soon get the hang of it. 😊 

 

 

AtelierCarousel
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In "Golden Dawn" decks, to which the RWS for me kind of belongs, the fool is a naked child, and I think this energy is here in the Sun card. 

 

It's a "natural, innocent victory or success" energy.

 

Then there is that theory that Jesus was the Sun, not the Son, and even if we don't follow that "witchy" train of thought any further, the sheer importance of the day and season cycles of the sun for the survival of ancient cultures kind of warrants such a big sun in the layout. If we say that sun energy "gives life", then this would mean it is the force that allows any kind of victory we could ever want to even occur. That gives it a kind of "god-like" power. It also makes us "dependent" on it. Maybe that is the essence of the ego-free victory attitude of the child. It just "rides the wave of sun energy" into success without a care in the world on its mind. 

 

Seen in the context of an "Arcana Life journey", the sun sits at the spot where scriptwriters using Campbell's "Monomyth" structure see the "Seizing the sword" step. It's at the end of the story in act 3, right before the "big end battle", where you "find strength and recognition through the trials and sufferings of acts 1 and 2, and get handed "that final thing" that makes you able to win the big battle. The card for me highlights a similar situation in a seeker's life, shortly before a big win. 

 

Many say the reverse is the same, only weaker, so for me it's "loss of enthusiasm and winner's attitude"

 

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