jfjsjjdjxjdjw Posted February 11 Posted February 11 It was funny coz a long time ago when I had my first reading with some people , one person got offended because ironically I read the cards accurately to the point that even her vices got read and other bad hobbies. She took badly and got " offended" by her own reading.
Tanga Posted February 11 Posted February 11 (edited) Yup. Clear memory of that happening once, when I had just dared to start reading for strangers - sort-of - as it was one of my neighbours, but I didn't know her very well at that time. She told me I wasn't a very good reader, and left in a huff 😱. Later, I found out I'd hit-the-nail on the head about her current situation - and that's where I learned 1st hand, that some querents come because they want to hear what they want you to tell them, not what you find as possible (and then perhaps they carry on doing the rounds of going to different readers asking the same question, until someone answers in the way they hope for). Before I discovered my accuracy here, I was reluctant to try reading again for strangers. There was that little voice in my head wondering if I'd done it wrong. Now I remember this reading when I have doubts & remind myself to just read what I see with compassion. Edited February 11 by Tanga
jfjsjjdjxjdjw Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 37 minutes ago, Tanga said: Yup. Clear memory of that happening once, when I had just dared to start reading for strangers - sort-of - as it was one of my neighbours, but I didn't know her very well at that time. She told me I wasn't a very good reader, and left in a huff 😱. Later, I found out I'd hit-the-nail on the head about her current situation - and that's where I learned 1st hand, that some querents come because they want to hear what they want you to tell them, not what you find as possible (and then perhaps they carry on doing the rounds of going to different readers asking the same question, until someone answers in the way they hope for). Before I discovered my accuracy here, I was reluctant to try reading again for strangers. There was that little voice in my head wondering if I'd done it wrong. Now I remember this reading when I have doubts & remind myself to just read what I see with compassion. It's sort of funny how people dare to come have reading yet they are scared of their own illegal doings lol. Would it be better if there's a disclaimer like " hey when I read you that includes all your life including the dark parts of it" lmao .
DanielJUK Posted Wednesday at 11:27 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:27 PM I've moved this thread to Tarot Talk & Technique as it's not a personal reading.
Tanga Posted Thursday at 11:42 PM Posted Thursday at 11:42 PM On 2/11/2026 at 9:03 PM, jfjsjjdjxjdjw said: It's sort of funny how people dare to come have reading yet they are scared of their own illegal doings lol. Would it be better if there's a disclaimer like " hey when I read you that includes all your life including the dark parts of it" lmao . You could put that in your disclaimer. I was reading a cleromancy text and discovered the author asks 2 questions before they begin reading for anyone: 1) Do you take this reading with love in your heart, knowing that the messages within, no matter what they reveal, come from my ancestors to yours with love? 2) Do you take this reading with honesty in your spirit and understand that you may need to honestly reflect on the messages to realise their true meaning? I rather like this. I think I'll fashion my own pre-reading questions along these lines...
jfjsjjdjxjdjw Posted Saturday at 03:05 PM Author Posted Saturday at 03:05 PM On 2/13/2026 at 7:42 AM, Tanga said: You could put that in your disclaimer. I was reading a cleromancy text and discovered the author asks 2 questions before they begin reading for anyone: 1) Do you take this reading with love in your heart, knowing that the messages within, no matter what they reveal, come from my ancestors to yours with love? 2) Do you take this reading with honesty in your spirit and understand that you may need to honestly reflect on the messages to realise their true meaning? I rather like this. I think I'll fashion my own pre-reading questions along these lines... It is a bit amusing to see how they react violently to the things that you see that does not go with their plans On top of that they say readings change , but for me even if u go the other way somehow some things divert to that kind of situation , whatever the cards read you will end up on that situation
Tanga Posted Saturday at 04:24 PM Posted Saturday at 04:24 PM 1 hour ago, jfjsjjdjxjdjw said: It is a bit amusing to see how they react violently to the things that you see that does not go with their plans On top of that they say readings change , but for me even if u go the other way somehow some things divert to that kind of situation , whatever the cards read you will end up on that situation Sometimes it's not so amusing, because then you have to deal delicately & diplomatically with thier upset. Readings can come out just as you predict - and things can also change.
Sar Posted Saturday at 05:09 PM Posted Saturday at 05:09 PM On 2/11/2026 at 4:06 PM, jfjsjjdjxjdjw said: It was funny coz a long time ago when I had my first reading with some people , one person got offended because ironically I read the cards accurately to the point that even her vices got read and other bad hobbies. She took badly and got " offended" by her own reading. People do not want to hear the truth, they want everything sugar coated.
Misterei Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM 5 hours ago, Sar said: People do not want to hear the truth, they want everything sugar coated. This goes to how important it is that we readers pick our clients if we're able. For example I have clients who value the honest real deal reading--they don't want sugar coating or blowing smoke up their a$$. Mostly my website makes it clear they are going to get an honest read. But everyone once in a while someone gets through who doesn't want to hear the truth. It's nearly always about romance. That being said--i am guilty of it myself. Many years ago i got cards read and the reader advised me against a certain real estate purchase. I didn't wish to hear it and went ahead anyway. Quelle disastre!
Sar Posted Sunday at 06:39 AM Posted Sunday at 06:39 AM 8 hours ago, Misterei said: This goes to how important it is that we readers pick our clients if we're able. For example I have clients who value the honest real deal reading--they don't want sugar coating or blowing smoke up their a$$. Mostly my website makes it clear they are going to get an honest read. But everyone once in a while someone gets through who doesn't want to hear the truth. It's nearly always about romance. That being said--i am guilty of it myself. Many years ago i got cards read and the reader advised me against a certain real estate purchase. I didn't wish to hear it and went ahead anyway. Quelle disastre! You learned the hard way. We all did in some way.
Misterei Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM 13 hours ago, Sar said: You learned the hard way. We all did in some way. Yes. The REALLY hard way. Bankruptcy. OTOH, it has given me compassion for clients who don't wish to hear a difficult read. Not exactly sugar coating per se but I try to help them accept the unwanted outcome with some grace or alternative plan. The most stubborn refuse and never visit me again. The others appreciate it and return.
jfjsjjdjxjdjw Posted yesterday at 01:25 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:25 AM On 2/15/2026 at 12:24 AM, Tanga said: Sometimes it's not so amusing, because then you have to deal delicately & diplomatically with thier upset. Readings can come out just as you predict - and things can also change. Still fighting for what they want it to be the outcome rather than just accepting the reading
Sar Posted yesterday at 05:56 AM Posted yesterday at 05:56 AM 9 hours ago, Misterei said: Yes. The REALLY hard way. Bankruptcy. OTOH, it has given me compassion for clients who don't wish to hear a difficult read. Not exactly sugar coating per se but I try to help them accept the unwanted outcome with some grace or alternative plan. The most stubborn refuse and never visit me again. The others appreciate it and return. Yeah, the clients are two kind of people in a way. A group that appreciates being warned and the B cluster....
gregory Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) On 2/11/2026 at 8:24 PM, Tanga said: some querents come because they want to hear what they want you to tell them, not what you find This is the nub of it all. As far as I'm concerned - you tell them what the cards show you. If it isn't "nice" - it's still what they need to hear. If they then go somewhere else to get the answer they hoped for - their loss. You see it here and on every forum I have been on - returners who try asking the same question over and over in the hope of hearing what they want. There was one on one forum who kept it up for years - even creating aliases to keep it up (in the end banned for multiple accounts) - When will he leave his wife. People would say this is the situation, he won't; he has shown you by this and that and the other and there are the children and..... "I know all that but when will he leave his wife." "He won't." "Yes, but WHEN ?" Jesus said it best: “He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” Those who can only hear what they want to hear are basically deaf - have no ears to hear - and it doesn't matter to them what you say unless it's "right". Offer your message and move on. Edited 11 hours ago by gregory
DanielJUK Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Many reading professionals often report (on here and back on AT) that the majority of their customers do not follow their advice from the readings. Most people don't take any action or make changes. It's challenging to shift humans and mindsets really. I think this is also true about getting readings (mainly from people who are not readers themselves). A lot of people just want to hear good news, they wish to leave with something positive. This is highly unethical in tarot terms though, I mean you can say the reading says everything wonderful will happen to you, but will they come back to you when it doesn't come true? Perhaps a reading is not needed but instead positive affirmations, intentions, faith or whatever your beliefs in the area. Those AI readings becoming increasingly prevalent across the net, are fast replacing the generic cut and past meanings ones. They tend to be vague and positive, so you come back for more. There is a whole place still needed of honest readings, the reader saying what they see and relaying their interpretations. A more helpful reading is one that does give the bad news and is honest. Some of the best advice I have ever had was from tarot readings with messages I didn't really want to hear at the time. Later on, they were so important. Also readings tend to bug you until you take action or change something and then they change. I don't think you should leave someone feeling bad, however, especially if they are paying for a reading, they should be helpful and what the querent needs to know, but maybe not just what they wanted to hear.
Misterei Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 hours ago, DanielJUK said: ... A lot of people just want to hear good news, they wish to leave with something positive. This is highly unethical in tarot terms though, I mean you can say the reading says everything wonderful will happen to you, but will they come back to you when it doesn't come true? Perhaps a reading is not needed but instead positive affirmations, intentions, faith or whatever your beliefs in the area. A good reader must walk a thin tightrope between both [as you mention later in your post. For example honesty about the malefic cards and possible negative outcomes but with an invitation toward practices like meditation that might alleviate some of the suffering. It's almost a Buddhist perspective. All humans experience PAIN but the SUFFERING is more optional. Of course in reality it's quite difficult to separate pain from suffering. *sigh* 7 hours ago, DanielJUK said: Those AI readings becoming increasingly prevalent across the net, are fast replacing the generic cut and past meanings ones. They tend to be vague and positive, so you come back for more. ... UGH. ChatGPT is literally TRYING to tell you what you want to hear. Apparently they're trying to bake in sycophantic people pleasing. For example when i use it for research ChatGPT is now giving me 2 responses to my question and asking me which "personality" I prefer. I ignore this. I don't want my AI to have a "personality". I just want it to help me with research and value accuracy more than a "personality". Gods help us.
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