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[joy]

Grandma, me thinks you edited a post along the way but I do want to reply to something you did say at one time. lol

 

Grandma Quote:

Okay, let’s throw this fourth variable into the mix.  We’ve been looking at how traditional meanings, intuition, and personal experience inform our readings.  How important is knowledge of the querent?

 

The answer seems obvious to me – very important.

In all honesty, I disagree with you about having knowledge of the querent.  I have done hundreds of online readings and I connect to my querent.  I really just need a name and their sign.  The sign gives me a jumping off point into them.  I have countless readings where all I get is the name, usually the sign and it they want a general reading.  So I really don't have any knowledge of them except a name and sign but I work with that and so do my cards.  I think some of it is having that extra trust in my cards.  When I do these kind of readings I feel I will pull the cards necessary to help the querent.  It's funny because after so many of these types of readings and talk to the querent again, the actual situation flows out of them! What really gives me the encouragement to continue like I have is when they say to me, "How did I know?"  I have had some readings like this fall flat, but it's how I learned.  I still take readings without knowing anything and just call it a general reading. ;)

 

Saturn Celeste[/member] so is the meaning for the same card always the same? Eg 3 of Swords in a one card love reading. Would your cards always tell you it is about heartbreak or can there be variations?

[Saturn Celeste]

Saturn Celeste[/member] so is the meaning for the same card always the same? Eg 3 of Swords in a one card love reading. Would your cards always tell you it is about heartbreak or can there be variations?

Oh no! lol  It depends on the deck, surrounding cards, upright or reversed. I can't explain it, I think about my querents for a day, sit down and say their name, sign and question out loud as I shuffle. Lay the cards out and think about what the starting point is.  Sometimes it's the oracle I use with 3 tarot cards and sometimes it's the middle card.  It just depends and then I look for a logical, chronological, relationship among the cards after I establish the 'lead' card.  I read the story from the cards then I go over each individual card and put it in a summary.  I think most readers do that though.  Maybe not in that order. ;)

 

Edit: I just saw where you asked about one card.  Same would still hold, depends on deck, upright or reversed.  It's funny you ask me about one card because I'm going to start doing up to 2 cards now.  I used to use them at FB events but I'll be going back to that.  For a single card I might put some crystals around and just think about it.  I do usually burn incense, light a yummy smelling candle or burn a wax warmer.  Smells are important to me.  Lots of times I also hold a crystal thinking about a reading.  Enough of that lol  Sorry if I went off topic!  :((

[Grandma]

Joy wrote

 

"This sounds very depressing and I do not know you personally.  However I have a hard time to believe your journey was not successful. What is the meaning of success? Money? Love? Your grandson comes visiting you, he must love you <3 And I love reading what your write, you seem such a beautiful and wise soul! <3

 

"I went ahead and did some research on this card meaning. This is what I found:

Here in the Queen of Disks, crying is the lubricant that allows movement of souls on their journey to the underworld.

Roots and crystals, water of earth. Her tears are mineral, her head is the root of the life growing upon her. From her are the building blocks of matter, building, growing. There are roses in full bloom and a dry creek bed. She watches over her realm, making solid the light in her eyes."

 

And "Yes I think you should revisit the card and mediate again, I am sure you get a different answer."

 

Joy, thank you.  What a kind and healing thing to say.

 

And Saturn Celeste - I could never do what you can do.  I really need to know about the querent.  Or wait....do I, or do I just think I do?  Do we each have a certain amount of intuition gifted to us, or is it an unlimited resource?  Could I develop intuition like yours or was I just not born with it? 

 

[Arabella]

Okay, let’s throw this fourth variable into the mix.  We’ve been looking at how traditional meanings, intuition, and personal experience inform our readings.  How important is knowledge of the querent?

 

My take on that is that knowledge of the querent is the factor that shows experience as a reader. As a very new and fresh reader I try to gather the energy of the querent for the reading, but if I'm off on who that person is then the reading is off. Reading for someone I know a bit better, gives me a framework for the reading whatever the cards are.

It seems to me, being able to read for someone, knowing nothing but their name/username is the skill I'm seeking. I trust my cards, I trust my intuition (mostly  :)), I use my experience. But I tend to make assumptions about who the person "is" and that can sway me. During my mentee stage I was often told by my mentor to broaden my reading. I would focus a bit too much on what I had assumed to be the backstory of the sitter and unless my intuition is 100% right, the reading is too slanted one way or another and maybe not resonate as well.

I'm finding in my shadow side I am judgemental so I jump to conclusions about a sitter, and form my reading around that. As I gather experience and do more and more readings and find some of my assumptions are right, some wrong, I'm learning to broaden my readings. If someone asked about troubles at work with management and I could easily assume they don't like their job and go into a big reading about finding a better job etc. then the reading is all off when the feedback comes in that they love their job it's just that there is a new manager who's stirring up trouble.

So after all this ramble I say, for my self, knowing the sitter is not necessarily a good thing. Knowing nothing makes me read all possibilities and therefore they can take more from it.

 

[TheFeeLion]

"I really need to know about the querent.  Or wait....do I, or do I just think I do?  Do we each have a certain amount of intuition gifted to us, or is it an unlimited resource?  Could I develop intuition like yours or was I just not born with it?"

 

Grandma - Don't believe that you weren't born with intuition for a moment! I believe intuition can be developed. The way I see it is everyone has it but learns while young not to trust it. Do you ever have times where you have a gut feeling about something or someone? That is your intuition at work. It takes time and patience learning to trust your intuition again. It's not an impossible task even if you think you have none. The more your learn to trust those gut feelings the more you will find you get them. I have to admit though, it's not an easy thing to do! Those doubts creep in all the time, particularly the "what if I'm wrong" doubt. So what if you're wrong? The world isn't going to fall down around your ears! Take it as a learning experience and next time try to have a little more faith in yourself :)

 

When it comes to knowing about the querent before doing a reading for them I don't believe it's imperative to know them. Some of the best readings I have done were for people I just met! I even had one person tell me that the only times I was getting something wrong during her (spontaneous) reading were also times during the reading where she could see I was doubting myself.

 

So, be kind on yourself, have a little faith in yourself, and trust that you can do it. Just because you can't pick up that heavy box now doesn't mean you can't strengthen and develop your muscles to get strong enough to do it later! ;)

 

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[Saturn Celeste]

And Saturn Celeste - I could never do what you can do.  I really need to know about the querent.  Or wait....do I, or do I just think I do?  Do we each have a certain amount of intuition gifted to us, or is it an unlimited resource?  Could I develop intuition like yours or was I just not born with it?

Of course you can!  I started doing it when I did my writer readings.  They often don't follow the actual tarot meanings so I would need to find where the writer's block or trouble with characters was.  One time I had a writer reading and the cards were awful!  But I wasn't looking for a tarot reading, I was looking for images and I was reading each card by itself- some positive some negative.  It was a very simple reading but as a whole, the tarot cards were awful!  Ask a question to the universe and draw 3 cards, lay them out left to right.  Think about the question and see what card either answers it directly, is a significator, is a catalyst.  Just get a feeling and see what starts to answer the question.  Go from there!

[TheFeeLion]

I have to agree with Arabella here; knowing your querent can sometimes get in the way of the reading. You don't know everything about what's going on behind the scenes in a person's life, even if you know them really well. I find that sometimes what I know (or think I know) about a person can colour the reading in a negative way. My own personal views can get in the mix. This is actually why I want to keep using books when doing readings for people in person too, I don't want my possibly faulty knowledge to get in the way of what I could be getting from the cards intuitively.

 

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[Saturn Celeste]

I have to agree with Arabella here; knowing your querent can sometimes get in the way of the reading. You don't know everything about what's going on behind the scenes in a person's life, even if you know them really well. I find that sometimes what I know (or think I know) about a person can colour the reading in a negative way. My own personal views can get in the mix. This is actually why I want to keep using books when doing readings for people in person too, I don't want my possibly faulty knowledge to get in the way of what I could be getting from the cards intuitively.

 

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You'll get there. If you really want to learn to read face to face with people is get a standard RW deck (nothing fancy!), learn the meanings and use that one deck over and over.  Toss your questions to the universe and do reading after reading. Look up like you're reading for someone.  Keep your reading down to less than 20 minutes, time yourself.  Think of them sitting next to you and looking at your table from the same view as yourself.  Start out with a 3 card spread, Past, Present and Future.  Do it over and over and before you know it, you'll be chatting up a storm while you do a live readings!

[TheFeeLion]

I have to agree with Arabella here; knowing your querent can sometimes get in the way of the reading. You don't know everything about what's going on behind the scenes in a person's life, even if you know them really well. I find that sometimes what I know (or think I know) about a person can colour the reading in a negative way. My own personal views can get in the mix. This is actually why I want to keep using books when doing readings for people in person too, I don't want my possibly faulty knowledge to get in the way of what I could be getting from the cards intuitively.

 

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You'll get there. If you really want to learn to read face to face with people is get a standard RW deck (nothing fancy!), learn the meanings and use that one deck over and over.  Toss your questions to the universe and do reading after reading. Look up like you're reading for someone.  Keep your reading down to less than 20 minutes, time yourself.  Think of them sitting next to you and looking at your table from the same view as yourself.  Start out with a 3 card spread, Past, Present and Future.  Do it over and over and before you know it, you'll be chatting up a storm while you do a live readings!

To be honest I'm not much of a fan of the original RWS deck. I just can't connect to it in any way! I was gifted a Thoth deck just after Christmas last year and have done some amazing intuitive readings with that. I feel I'm missing a lot of information in the cards though which is why I joined the mentoring group, but with 2 jobs and wedding planning I haven't been able to dedicate the time I want to to study it! Ha, and yes I do like to jump in the deep end lol!

 

I'm actually waiting on the TrueBlack deck to arrive which is RWS based. Now there is a deck I just understand! The artist uses a similar "visual dictionary" to the one in my head, so from the artwork alone I get exactly what his intentions where behind the imagery :D

 

I'm working on my tarot insecurities though. And will be constantly lol. I think they're something that everyone has to some degree though so I'm not too worried. All I can do is strive to be better, and I think that's all anyone can do :)

[Saturn Celeste]

I have to agree with Arabella here; knowing your querent can sometimes get in the way of the reading. You don't know everything about what's going on behind the scenes in a person's life, even if you know them really well. I find that sometimes what I know (or think I know) about a person can colour the reading in a negative way. My own personal views can get in the mix. This is actually why I want to keep using books when doing readings for people in person too, I don't want my possibly faulty knowledge to get in the way of what I could be getting from the cards intuitively.

 

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You'll get there. If you really want to learn to read face to face with people is get a standard RW deck (nothing fancy!), learn the meanings and use that one deck over and over.  Toss your questions to the universe and do reading after reading. Look up like you're reading for someone.  Keep your reading down to less than 20 minutes, time yourself.  Think of them sitting next to you and looking at your table from the same view as yourself.  Start out with a 3 card spread, Past, Present and Future.  Do it over and over and before you know it, you'll be chatting up a storm while you do a live readings!

To be honest I'm not much of a fan of the original RWS deck. I just can't connect to it in any way! I was gifted a Thoth deck just after Christmas last year and have done some amazing intuitive readings with that. I feel I'm missing a lot of information in the cards though which is why I joined the mentoring group, but with 2 jobs and wedding planning I haven't been able to dedicate the time I want to to study it! Ha, and yes I do like to jump in the deep end lol!

 

I'm actually waiting on the TrueBlack deck to arrive which is RWS based. Now there is a deck I just understand! The artist uses a similar "visual dictionary" to the one in my head, so from the artwork alone I get exactly what his intentions where behind the imagery :D

 

I'm working on my tarot insecurities though. And will be constantly lol. I think they're something that everyone has to some degree though so I'm not too worried. All I can do is strive to be better, and I think that's all anyone can do :)

Oh the True Black deck is gorgeous!  I'd love to have that too!!  The reason I suggest a very simple RW deck is because it isn't a deck you would use on yourself.  We're taking about reading for others face to face. It's really different and by having a deck that is very simple where you can piece together the interpretation without using any books, I've found the basic decks work better.  If the True Black works that way, then awesome!  It's so beautiful!

[TheFeeLion]

Ooo Grandma I just remembered something I did to help boost my intuition! Crystals! I'm not sure if you use them at all or whatever but thought I would mention it. I researched what kind of crystals and stones could help with intuition and then went out and got a whole lot :D I think they really helped to get me in the right frame of mind :)

[TheFeeLion]

I have to agree with Arabella here; knowing your querent can sometimes get in the way of the reading. You don't know everything about what's going on behind the scenes in a person's life, even if you know them really well. I find that sometimes what I know (or think I know) about a person can colour the reading in a negative way. My own personal views can get in the mix. This is actually why I want to keep using books when doing readings for people in person too, I don't want my possibly faulty knowledge to get in the way of what I could be getting from the cards intuitively.

 

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You'll get there. If you really want to learn to read face to face with people is get a standard RW deck (nothing fancy!), learn the meanings and use that one deck over and over.  Toss your questions to the universe and do reading after reading. Look up like you're reading for someone.  Keep your reading down to less than 20 minutes, time yourself.  Think of them sitting next to you and looking at your table from the same view as yourself.  Start out with a 3 card spread, Past, Present and Future.  Do it over and over and before you know it, you'll be chatting up a storm while you do a live readings!

To be honest I'm not much of a fan of the original RWS deck. I just can't connect to it in any way! I was gifted a Thoth deck just after Christmas last year and have done some amazing intuitive readings with that. I feel I'm missing a lot of information in the cards though which is why I joined the mentoring group, but with 2 jobs and wedding planning I haven't been able to dedicate the time I want to to study it! Ha, and yes I do like to jump in the deep end lol!

 

I'm actually waiting on the TrueBlack deck to arrive which is RWS based. Now there is a deck I just understand! The artist uses a similar "visual dictionary" to the one in my head, so from the artwork alone I get exactly what his intentions where behind the imagery :D

 

I'm working on my tarot insecurities though. And will be constantly lol. I think they're something that everyone has to some degree though so I'm not too worried. All I can do is strive to be better, and I think that's all anyone can do :)

Oh the True Black deck is gorgeous!  I'd love to have that too!!  The reason I suggest a very simple RW deck is because it isn't a deck you would use on yourself.  We're taking about reading for others face to face. It's really different and by having a deck that is very simple where you can piece together the interpretation without using any books, I've found the basic decks work better.  If the True Black works that way, then awesome!  It's so beautiful!

I definitely understand where you're coming from. I've found though, I need to use a deck (for myself or others) that I can get some kind of understanding from the imagery. If I don't have that it's just a piece of card with drawing on it.

 

I have the Golden Universal which I use occasionally, mainly for others. I like the shiny. It's not one I really get drawn to use though even when doing online readings. It only really gets used if someone chooses that deck or if I need a RWS comparison when studying my thoth or for seeing similarities with my other decks (shadows apes/celtic dragons/renaissance).

 

I also find the RWS less than simple to use. I think for me a lot of the imagery seems antiquated and outdated. [Minor side tangent: the Death card in RWS looks like a representation of part of the War of the Roses - the white rose of York is on Death's flag and the old King is dead at his feet.] I know so many people swear by it but I just don't really get it. I thought about studying it but don't know if I will. I think the word I'm looking for is "sterile"? I feel like I have to wrangle with the cards to get any meaningful meaning.

[Grandma]

And how about analytical reading - I put a lot of emphasis on where a card is in the Fool's Journey, for example, or the meaning of the number of a card, and I've noticed that some people do this more than me, some less, some not too much.  I wonder how people develop the amalgam of their personal style.  Maybe it's like two equally inspired musicians - one plays jazz, one classical?  The music of each may soar to the same place but it gets there differently?

[TheFeeLion]

Excellent discussion about intuition, and great suggestions.  I'm looking at intuition in a whole new way - not just as something that in others leaves me awestruck, but something that I have more of than I realized.

 

Oh my god I love this thread...

Glad we're able to help! :D

[Grandma]

Excellent discussion about intuition, and great suggestions.  I'm looking at intuition in a whole new way - not just as something that in others leaves me awestruck, but something that I have more of than I realized.

 

Oh my god I love this thread...

Glad we're able to help! :D

 

Whoops I was modifying my last post when I noticed you had replied, and then I accidentally deleted the part you quoted when I added the rest of it, please see above.  So confusing....

[TheFeeLion]

And how about analytical reading - I put a lot of emphasis on where a card is in the Fool's Journey, for example, or the meaning of the number of a card, and I've noticed that some people do this more than me, some less, some not too much.  I wonder how people develop the amalgam of their personal style.  Maybe it's like two equally inspired musicians - one plays jazz, one classical?  The music of each may soar to the same place but it gets there differently?

Hmm... For me I use this kind of stuff when I feel I need to but not all the time. For example I did a reading for a friend the other week and in it she asked why swords seemed like such a negative suit, I'd just read a whole lot about the qabalah(?) side this, something about energy moving down through the suits (fire to water to air to earth) and by the time it gets to the swords suit its kind of all depressed about having to continue its journey down to earth, but once it reaches earth it becomes jubilant again because it gets to start the cycle again. I explained this to her (even though in my head I thought I was probably giving her a bit too much info!) and she said at the end that it really helped her to understand the reading better :D

 

Sometimes I'll use quint cards when I feel there is something missing but don't feel the need to pull more cards. Numerology might come into play if there are any repeated numbers. I may look at what elements are missing in a spread. I might look at the spread itself, especially when I do my usual spreadless spread, to see what shapes are made or what cards seem to be hanging out together. It really changes every time.

 

The development of my personal style I suppose has come from the development of my intuition. I used to use a lot of set spreads. Then had a play with making my own spreads. I discovered that cards that jump/fall out are more on point than ones dealt out. This has morphed into me dealing entirely jumper cards and sometimes multiple decks. Spreads now come about from how cards jump out or where they fall or what other cards they fall out with. It's something that happens for me organically now but I would never have been able to do it this way at the start of the year! As I accumulate more knowledge I pull out what works for me at the time. I don't really have any hard and fast rules.

[Grandma]

I'm not talking about numerology per se, but about how fives are the part of the journey of each suit where energy starts to break down, for example; and I also look at what suits are present and how different cards relate to each other.

 

But I just realized something - I employed all my techniques and skills in three on line readings in my recent thread.  I didn't know the querents except for their posts, and I didn't know the situations behind their questions, and two of them were the most powerful, well received readings I've ever done (I haven't done very many) and were apparently very intuitive!  So I have demonstrated more intuition than I knew I had.

[TheFeeLion]

I'm not talking about numerology per se, but about how fives are the part of the journey of each suit where energy starts to break down, for example; and I also look at what suits are present and how different cards relate to each other.

 

But I just realized something - I employed all my techniques and skills in three on line readings in my recent thread.  I didn't know the querents except for their posts, and I didn't know the situations behind their questions, and two of them were the most powerful, well received readings I've ever done (I haven't done very many) and were apparently very intuitive!  So I have demonstrated more intuition than I knew I had.

Ha! I knew you had it in you! :D

[Guest]

I'm not talking about numerology per se, but about how fives are the part of the journey of each suit where energy starts to break down, for example; and I also look at what suits are present and how different cards relate to each other.

 

But I just realized something - I employed all my techniques and skills in three on line readings in my recent thread.  I didn't know the querents except for their posts, and I didn't know the situations behind their questions, and two of them were the most powerful, well received readings I've ever done (I haven't done very many) and were apparently very intuitive!  So I have demonstrated more intuition than I knew I had.

 

I think that's interesting because I also feel as though I've done some of my most powerful intuiting during online experiences. If you speak someone's language (English is at least one for all of us here), reading their writing can give you a powerful sense of their own interiority that can be overshadowed by body language, audial tone, and the like.

 

In person, you can tell that a querent is angry, upset, uncertain, et cetera, but people generally share their tarot readings on the forum for the first time with a sense of desperation, and you can read their direct stream of consciousness, which, although edited, is summative and very telling of hidden interior feelings of uncertainty, jealousy, resentment, or hope.

 

Communication is still 80% body language, but I've been starting to think that, as a person who becomes distracted by external, environmental influences very easily, and absorbs those energies readily, it's actually more helpful for me to connect with others for a reading through writing. The querent's intentions are still present, but they have filtered out the bulk of their own excess energies at the time of posting or messaging.

[Grandma]

Emi, that is fascinating and informative.  However, I'm talking about readings here at TT&M, in a readings for feedback thread.  The writing I meant is posts people have made.  All I know about their question is pretty much the just the question.

 

Any thoughts?

[RavenOfSummer]

Hi everyone! I'm just now catching up on this whole thread, so apologies for replying to some things that were brought up a while back!

 

I know that was what you meant. If I really though there would be a debate then, truthfully, I would have refrained from posting because I have so much stuff going on in my life right now (stressful things) that I am feeling a bit vulnerable and not really up to defending myself. I’m sure you understand what I’m trying to say, I know you are the kind of person that always goes the extra mile in trying to understand and embrace people for who they are. I really appreciate that about you!

 

Wow.  Thank you.  I'm very lonely in real life and I don't get much positive feedback, so that means more than I can say.  I consider you among the friends I have made here, Raggydoll.

 

I'm sorry that your life is stressful.  Feeling vulnerable is pretty much my baseline, so the last thing I want is for people to be made to feel that they need to defend themselves here. 

 

Positing different opinions and intellectually defending them while being excited to learn from other points of view can be stimulating, not only intellectually but emotionally, for me.  You raised such good points.  I'll be thinking about them long and hard.

 

If the discussion is rewarding, people will stick around.  And if this thread is not someone's cup of tea, well, it's a big forum with room for everyone.

 

First I just want to say, Grandma[/member], your presence lights up the forum each and every day- you are so appreciated as part of this family!! And Raggydoll[/member], my dear moon sister, you know how much I treasure you. Lots of love to you both  <3 <3 <3

 

 

Grandma - Don't believe that you weren't born with intuition for a moment! I believe intuition can be developed. The way I see it is everyone has it but learns while young not to trust it. Do you ever have times where you have a gut feeling about something or someone? That is your intuition at work. It takes time and patience learning to trust your intuition again. It's not an impossible task even if you think you have none. The more your learn to trust those gut feelings the more you will find you get them. I have to admit though, it's not an easy thing to do! Those doubts creep in all the time, particularly the "what if I'm wrong" doubt. So what if you're wrong? The world isn't going to fall down around your ears! Take it as a learning experience and next time try to have a little more faith in yourself :)

 

I REALLY agree with this, TheFeeLion[/member]! I think we are born with innate knowledge and understanding-to use a phrase that's come up in this thread, our own connection to the collective unconscious. At least that's how I sometimes think about it. This knowledge and understanding expands and is refined through our experiences. But, I think most of us are taught/socialized to not trust our understanding. Which leads to self-doubt, and a disconnect between our true selves and how we act in our day to day lives. Like you say, it takes patience to work our way back, to a place where we can again grow and expand in our true selves and understandings and expressions.

 

And I like what you say about learning to trust your gut feelings, in the context of readings. It has happened to me more than once that I've read for someone, and I've head a sense that I want to say something as part of a reading but then I fear it might be wrong so I hold back, and then when the person I read for responds they tell me how a card relates to them in the exact way that I had wanted to say but didn't. And like you said too, if you are wrong, that's fine too. We're all here to learn and grow as readers! 

 

And how about analytical reading - I put a lot of emphasis on where a card is in the Fool's Journey, for example, or the meaning of the number of a card, and I've noticed that some people do this more than me, some less, some not too much.  I wonder how people develop the amalgam of their personal style.  Maybe it's like two equally inspired musicians - one plays jazz, one classical?  The music of each may soar to the same place but it gets there differently?

 

This is an interesting question too. I personally know very little about astrology and Kabbalah, for example, and don't incorporate those things in my readings at all, but other readers place great emphasis on these things in readings. I do like to think about cards in terms of the Fool's Journey- it's something that really resonates with me as a writer as well.

 

So much in this thread...may respond to more things in a bit!

 

 

[Aldor44]

Greetings all ! Sorry for the late arrival.. it took me a while to read all 7 pages....  ::)

 

I will add a few of my cents into the mix.

 

1- I was thinking lately on a sentece from the book of thoth. I don't remember the exact quote but it spoke of the fact that in the end the meanings of cards are irrelevent because it is the reader who assigns them and as a result the cards that pop up arrange themselves with that readers  personal view.. think.got me thinking that if it is true then the traditional meanings and the vast amount of books written on them become that less important....

 

As for the horse that started it all 😃

 

I myself is trying to read as intuitively as possible, however so far I don't seem to be able to read cards without pictures for it seems I need images to stimulate my mind. What I do try to do is look at the picture - I like detailed ones and see what catches my eye.  Then I try to synergize what I know of the card with what I feel and come up with a meaning... in that case the sad horse jumped out to me....

[Grandma]

emi[/member]

 

Emi, that is fascinating and informative.  However, I'm talking about readings here at TT&M, in a readings for feedback thread.  The writing I meant is posts people have made.  All I know about their question is pretty much the just the question.

 

Any thoughts?

 

As I reread this post I think I might have misunderstood.  Were you talking about forum readings or online as from a personal website or Etsy shop?  Sometimes I try to cram so much in that I miss important details, which is both easy and problematic in this densely informational and thought provoking thread.

 

I'm also worried that I sounded glib and dismissive  If so, I'm sorry.  That was pretty much the opposite of my intent.  I was fascinated and I learned a lot and I hope to hear much more from you.  I've noticed you on a few threads.  When I saw that you had joined ours I was eager to find out what you had to say!

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Saturn Celeste[/member] so is the meaning for the same card always the same? Eg 3 of Swords in a one card love reading. Would your cards always tell you it is about heartbreak or can there be variations?

Oh no! lol  It depends on the deck, surrounding cards, upright or reversed. I can't explain it, I think about my querents for a day, sit down and say their name, sign and question out loud as I shuffle. Lay the cards out and think about what the starting point is.  Sometimes it's the oracle I use with 3 tarot cards and sometimes it's the middle card.  It just depends and then I look for a logical, chronological, relationship among the cards after I establish the 'lead' card.  I read the story from the cards then I go over each individual card and put it in a summary.  I think most readers do that though.  Maybe not in that order. ;)

 

Edit: I just saw where you asked about one card.  Same would still hold, depends on deck, upright or reversed.  It's funny you ask me about one card because I'm going to start doing up to 2 cards now.  I used to use them at FB events but I'll be going back to that.  For a single card I might put some crystals around and just think about it.  I do usually burn incense, light a yummy smelling candle or burn a wax warmer.  Smells are important to me.  Lots of times I also hold a crystal thinking about a reading.  Enough of that lol  Sorry if I went off topic!  :((

 

Thanks Saturn Celeste[/member] that answered my question :-) I used 1 card in the example so my point came across.

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