Reading the cards on situations that have already been read

November 11, 2018

I'm so interested to see people's thoughts on this subject - well, 2 subjects that are linked enough that I think it warrants sharing a poll and thread. You've got 2 votes:

One to vote on how comfortable you are reading the cards for a querent, when you know that they've brought that question to other readers as well.

One to vote on how likely you are to go to multiple readers with the same question.

After you've voted, I'd love it if you shared your thoughts on your vote, if you're comfortable with chatting about it! I'd love to know about your experiences and feelings in these regards! I'll share my thoughts once there's a bit going on in here!

November 12, 2018

I voted #1 and #3 on this poll. I'm not judgmental about my clients' lives and what they choose to do about getting readings. That's not my job. My job is to read the cards to the best of my ability and I don't mind a bit if they've had a reading elsewhere on the same topic or within some particular time period.

There's one thing I won't read for anyone on and that's the question of whether someone is gay or not and if I know one party in a relationship is abusive, i won't read for the abuser.

Now, if I know the person has gotten a reading from someone else on the same question, I wonwho comes to me wanting me to read the same cards a previous reader has done. I'll do another spread myself and read it, but I won't judge the other reader and criticize what they read in the cards. If I were to read the same cards someone else read, that would amount to criticism.

November 12, 2018

Ok here is my 2 cents worth...

Reading the cards on situations that have already been read by another reader..

It feels disrespectful..

You can put your super "ALL" into a reading, and if it wasn't the answer that person wanted to hear...then in some cases that person will go shopping for the answer they wanna hear...

Even if the new reader just gives them a tiny minuscule dull glimmer of hope...(or maybe Querent looks at the reading in a certain way, but that's not what was actually said to them)...Or in some cases out there in internet world...readers that are not so honest and just tell you what you wanna hear...

But what can you do?

Shoot me..Im a Sagittarius ::)

I probably worded all that oddly, but I think you get my idea and likely have had it happen too..

November 12, 2018

For me - I put a lot a time and effort into my readings, on top of years and years of study and practice. I know I'm not alone in this! As such, I prefer to only read for people who truly value what they are getting from me. My experience with people going to many readers tends to be that it seems as though they don't really appreciate each reading that they get. It's often recieved a response like "ok thanks we'll see how accurate you are!" that's about it. Bleh. I'm with you, ~D~[/member], it wasn't feel like there's a lot of respect there, for either me nor the other readers.

This isn't the ONLY way that reading for someone who's asked a few people has gone down, there have definitely been good experiences, but it HAS been the most common in my experience - especially in regards to free reading, and on tumblr, my god the anons there! The atmosphere here it doesn't seem to foster that same level of weird devaluing that tumblr has, and I think that's due to the role of needing to provide solid feedback. A quick "thanks your reading was good" doesn't cut it here, so it does seem like even if the question is going to a few readers at once, it's in a more thoughtful way and less of a greedy way.

When it comes to paid readings, I've found that my icky feelings about it don't come up, and really that's probably because the proof of the value seen in what I'm doing is right there. Those tend to be presented a different way to me though - it's not the exact same question given to me verbatim, it's usually like "I got this reading, and it left me feeling blah-blah-blah. I'd like to explore this further with you." and that works for me. I'll usually do a little gentle digging into why they are choosing not go to back to the original reader, but that's to really ensure that I won't be leaving then feeling lacking in what they are paying for from me. I don't care who the reader was or what cards they pulled or what they said about those cards, but I do care about ensuring a paying client is likely to be satisfied with the money spent! (Which also doesn't mean that I'm trying to give them the answer they want to hear. I'm all about sharing what they need to hear, not what they want. And also - not in that toxic ugly truth sort of way, it's all about delivering the hard message with a lot of heart, but that's probably a topic for a different thread).

I've read a few things from people who are totally comfortable with dropping the same question with many diviners, and one thing that was said was that they took readings as puzzle pieces. Each diviner was able to give them a piece of insight, but rarely the whole picture, so they went to many people so as to be able to piece it all together. Still, though, I strive to be thorough in my readings, and I'd like to believe that I'm approachable enough that of anything was left unclear or unaddressed, my querents would be comfortable enough to bring that to my attention and get clarification!

Anyway that's a pretty huge ramble, so I'm gonna leave the table open for other thoughts!

November 12, 2018

no,

one rule I have is you can't go getting a reading from someone else (I notice people break this in the past ) on the same issue.

November 12, 2018

I've always had a problem with the idea that if a client gets multiple readings on the same question that they're just looking to hear the answer they want and they'll keep doing it till they hear what they want to hear. How could I be so arrogant as to believe I know what's in the heart or mind of another person? Since I can't really know that because I'm not omnipresent nor omniscient I just place myself in the position of thinking I'm more than I am. I'd be forgetting that I'm providing a service and that I'm merely another person trudging along making the best I can of my life, I'm not high and mighty and entitled to jump to conclusions and judge other people that way.

Every reader is entitled to follow their own path with the cards, so I'm not being critical of anyone else who has said that. I just wanted to share my thoughts and feelings as to my own policies and reasoning.

Don't get me wrong, I do notice when a sitter is so obsessed with something and just doesn't seem to hear what the cards have said over and over but I also remind myself that I can't really know what's in their heads, lives, heart----I just carry on with the reading whether it's a paid reading or not.

November 12, 2018

Over here I knew the situation...I cant go into details of this one reading...but went from me giving a bigger reading(elsewhere)...

To them asking for a one card reading same subject, with a sort of pre determined question before hand, from a reader over here on TT&M site...

They were actually told much the same thing, with an "err well maybe" a slightest chance.

First I was told my reading was bang on and expect a great review...

Then they went to 2nd reader with the "one card dealio", and i was then thumbs down.

Shopping for the answer they really want to hear..

November 12, 2018

I've always had a problem with the idea that if a client gets multiple readings on the same question that they're just looking to hear the answer they want and they'll keep doing it till they hear what they want to hear. How could I be so arrogant as to believe I know what's in the heart or mind of another person? Since I can't really know that because I'm not omnipresent nor omniscient I just place myself in the position of thinking I'm more than I am. I'd be forgetting that I'm providing a service and that I'm merely another person trudging along making the best I can of my life, I'm not high and mighty and entitled to jump to conclusions and judge other people that way.

Every reader is entitled to follow their own path with the cards, so I'm not being critical of anyone else who has said that. I just wanted to share my thoughts and feelings as to my own policies and reasoning.

Don't get me wrong, I do notice when a sitter is so obsessed with something and just doesn't seem to hear what the cards have said over and over but I also remind myself that I can't really know what's in their heads, lives, heart----I just carry on with the reading whether it's a paid reading or not.

I agree with you in that I also try not to assume that I know what they are thinking or feeling or that I know the true or full reasons for why they are asking for several readings on the same topic. People are so complex and our reasons are often just as complex. It is rarely ‘just’ because someone is obsessing, I find that there is usually much more to the story. Also, if I feel uncomfortable with what they ask of me or the impression I’m getting then I just won’t perform the reading, but for those I actually DO choose to read for, I try my very best to let go of preconceived ideas and prejudice. I will decide this on a case to case basis depending on how I feel. So, in order to answer the actual question ;): if a person has had a reading on the same topic before, then that will not be the main factor that will influence my decision. I will go with my intuition and look at the overall picture and the energies I’m picking up. That means I have done readings for people on topics that others have already read on, but I have also turned some of them down.

I do respect that other readers feel differently, so I’m only speaking for myself here. I always try to get a feel for the client before I accept so that I know if we seem to have an energetic connection and that I am meant to read for them (these are MY beliefs. I truly believe that we are/I am meant to do some readings and turn others down.) And I do not feel that it is up to me to try and control anything once I have agreed. Then it becomes THEIR reading and it is about their experience. I try (but I don’t always succeed, because I’m just human) hard to put ego and prestige aside. I have made peace with the fact that I usually won’t ever find out how it goes or if I was ‘right’ (now I’m talking about real life readings, not the ones we perform here were feedback is mandatory) and that it really doesn’t matter if I am right or if anyone is impressed by my skills. What matters (to me) is that I hold space for other people and lend myself and my knowledge/gifts to them in ways that they benefit from. This is my philosophy when it comes to readings, anyway :)

November 12, 2018

I've kind of chalked it up to experience and learning from the lesson...It was a payed reading that I did..But they got the mini reading back over here...

I knew what was going on with this person as they had been a friend with me on TT and M, and told me much stuff going on with them..

Its kind of you "had to be there" to get the gist of it...

Its not an ego thing, but the review would have been nice elsewhere to boost sales...

Its just the way it went down...

November 12, 2018

I've kind of chalked it up to experience and learning from the lesson...It was a payed reading that I did..But they got the mini reading back over here...
I knew what was going on with this person as they had been a friend with me on TT and M, and told me much stuff going on with them..
Its kind of you "had to be there" to get the gist of it...
Its not an ego thing, but the review would have been nice elsewhere to boost sales...
Its just the way it went down...

Oh, I get your frustration. That must have been annoying when this client (and friend) of yours did that. I’m sure you already know that this was all about them and not about you, but I’ll still say it :) And even though one might know this, it can still suck quite a bit! Don’t feel that it is bad to get frustrated or disappointed in how other people (and clients!) behave. We are not spiritually evolved machines - we are people! Also, most of us are empats and that adds a WHOLE other layer to it :)) It is very natural to want a review if you are doing readings online. Remember, I spoke from the experience of doing readings in real life. It is quite different to run an online business and I totally understand the importance of good feedback. Also, when I spoke about ego I was merely referring to myself and my own process. Ego and prestige have been something that I struggle with, and it more or less boils down to insecurities and lack of confidence, for me. So I am working on it but I am very realistic. I do not think it is possible - or even healthy - to try and completely control or erase the issues that makes you human. I’m not going for Buddha, I’ll settle on being confident and more at ease with the fact that there are so many things that I simply cannot change or control.

November 12, 2018

Personally, I have no issue with it. I spend a lot of time on readings, but don't feel that I have any exclusive rights to providing the answer (good thing too, on here! ;)). Especially in complicated situations, there are lots of aspects to consider, and different readers will pick up on different components of the issue. Some will focus on the problems, and some on the opportunities... and so on. Even if I do a very thorough spread, there will still be scope for clarification.

If someone does go into a series of readings waiting for the result they want to appear, that's a problem... but that's a problem with the attitude rather than with the multiple readings themselves. And yes, there are some cases where I'd want to receive multiple perspectives, myself.

November 12, 2018

Personally, I have no issue with it. I spend a lot of time on readings, but don't feel that I have any exclusive rights to providing the answer (good thing too, on here! ;)). Especially in complicated situations, there are lots of aspects to consider, and different readers will pick up on different components of the issue. Some will focus on the problems, and some on the opportunities... and so on. Even if I do a very thorough spread, there will still be scope for clarification.

If someone does go into a series of readings waiting for the result they want to appear, that's a problem... but that's a problem with the attitude rather than with the multiple readings themselves. And yes, there are some cases where I'd want to receive multiple perspectives, myself.

You got it Wanderer...

If someone does go into a series of readings waiting for the result they want to appear, that's a problem... but that's a problem with the attitude.

I can see in some cases needing multiple perspectives, but what if you have many different readers telling you the same thing? ;) Also I have actually had some people ask me the same question over and over week to week...You can say," well maybe you shouldnt be asking the cards that question so much"..Then they will ask the same question, but in a different way...They are asking or hoping for a certain outcome..They certainly didnt like the first outcome, or they wouldnt keep asking.. :o

~D~

November 12, 2018

Personally, I have no issue with it. I spend a lot of time on readings, but don't feel that I have any exclusive rights to providing the answer (good thing too, on here! ;)). Especially in complicated situations, there are lots of aspects to consider, and different readers will pick up on different components of the issue. Some will focus on the problems, and some on the opportunities... and so on. Even if I do a very thorough spread, there will still be scope for clarification.

If someone does go into a series of readings waiting for the result they want to appear, that's a problem... but that's a problem with the attitude rather than with the multiple readings themselves. And yes, there are some cases where I'd want to receive multiple perspectives, myself.

Yes. And Grandma[/member] really showed us all how interesting and valuable it can be when we all join arms! Every reader has their own flavor, so to speak, and we all have something unique to bring to the mix. So when it works, it can really be a nice thing to have more than one voice on a specific topic. But, and this is a big BUT - everyone must be in on it. It does not work when readers feel like they were left out on what the real plan was. If you plan on asking many people and it is done in a place like this forum, where everyone can see what goes on and what other readers responds - then I think you MUST be open about it. Otherwise a reader can feel like they are being taken advantage of or if they aren't being respected. And that is a real issue. Even if a reading (in my opinion) belongs to the client, we are still sharing a sacred moment and we are exhanging energies. So there needs to be respect, honesty and integrity coming from both sides.

November 12, 2018

This for sure- So there needs to be respect, honesty and integrity coming from both sides.

I've actually had said person come back to me and say,"This is what the other reader said on TT and M site...

OR ask me what i think about that readers reading..

I said its not cool to pass judgement on another readers reading they did for you..

November 12, 2018

This for sure- So there needs to be respect, honesty and integrity coming from both sides.
I've actually had said person come back to me and say,"This is what the other reader said on TT and M site...
OR ask me what i think about that readers reading..
I said its not cool to pass judgement on another readers reading they did for you..

What you are describing is not OK. I am sorry that this happened. The only thing you can do here is to draw your boundaries and stand your ground. You did what you were meant (and hired) to do, and it not your fault that this client was not satisfied and wanted a second opinion. This will happen to every single reader at one point or another (and if you've read for a long time, then it will sure to have happen MANY times). Most times you will never know that they shop around for second opinions, but it gets so obvious when its done on a forum (and especially when the client behaves like that and blatantly shoves everything in your face!). I am going to advice you (though you technically never asked for my advice, so I hope you don't feel that I'm being pushy!) that you try and keep a distance to this person. Maybe you are already doing this. But I feel that this is the only sound option.

November 12, 2018

Were good there....Since they got a slightly minuscule difference in the 2nd readers reading, they wont talk to me.

Its like they think i lied to them...

I think the answer was coaxed from 2nd reader a bit too (like you said, its forgotten we all can see the stuff in the reading exchange)...

Oh well, lesson learned.

November 12, 2018

I think this depends on WHAT the person is asking and if they’re getting a full answer. Many readers give insight, but sometimes they just can’t pick up a clear answer and that doesn’t exactly mean the reader isn’t thorough. Sometimes the situation is complicated, sometimes I believe if fate can turn either way, it just won’t give us a cut and clear answer. For instance, on my court questions people tend to give me “hmmm maybe likely” answers, which is good, but sometimes someone might pick up on another little detail that when added to the other results makes the answer clear. If someone’s getting a thorough, clear answer, but repeatedly asking, then likely they want a different, but in questions that aren’t very obvious answers, I see no harm in seeing if another individual can add to the answer. I think a lot of readers get paranoid about asking the same questions as the pressure gets added to them when their answers are compared. I don’t think anyone getting a reading intentionally insults a reader(unless it’s just a skeptic trying to get their kicks seeing people slip up in their answers). Just my two cents. [emoji1744]‍[emoji3601]

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November 12, 2018

Ok here is my 2 cents worth...
Reading the cards on situations that have already been read by another reader..
It feels disrespectful..

Isn't this exactally what is going on here where many readers are reading the same situation for a member? I think it is 3 pages long now. I have a bee in my bonnet about it :)

November 12, 2018

It depends on the philosophy of the querent and the reader.

For those of us who see tarot as a way of gaining perspective, or understanding ourselves at deeper levels, or sorting out options, and so forth, then getting multiple readings on the same question is like gathering the best minds together. It’s like establishing a think tank. If the readers know up front that this is what they’re being asked, it’s a respectful use of the tarot cards, and respectful to those who read them.

This is what I had in mind myself. As Wanderer and Raggydoll said (thank you Raggydoll!)

Personally, I have no issue with it. I spend a lot of time on readings, but don't feel that I have any exclusive rights to providing the answer (good thing too, on here! ;)). Especially in complicated situations, there are lots of aspects to consider, and different readers will pick up on different components of the issue. Some will focus on the problems, and some on the opportunities... and so on. Even if I do a very thorough spread, there will still be scope for clarification.

If someone does go into a series of readings waiting for the result they want to appear, that's a problem... but that's a problem with the attitude rather than with the multiple readings themselves. And yes, there are some cases where I'd want to receive multiple perspectives, myself.

Yes. And Grandma[/member] really showed us all how interesting and valuable it can be when we all join arms! Every reader has their own flavor, so to speak, and we all have something unique to bring to the mix. So when it works, it can really be a nice thing to have more than one voice on a specific topic. But, and this is a big BUT - everyone must be in on it. It does not work when readers feel like they were left out on what the real plan was. If you plan on asking many people and it is done in a place like this forum, where everyone can see what goes on and what other readers responds - then I think you MUST be open about it. Otherwise a reader can feel like they are being taken advantage of or if they aren't being respected. And that is a real issue. Even if a reading (in my opinion) belongs to the client, we are still sharing a sacred moment and we are exhanging energies. So there needs to be respect, honesty and integrity coming from both sides.

But when a simple question is shopped around, the situation is more complicated.

If a querent has a yes-or-no question, then I don’t understand why they would run around the forum asking the same question again and again. Is the querent operating on the majority rules principle? Is he or she cherry picking answers? Is he or she taking a poll? Does he or she not really believe that tarot is predictive and is just wishfully thinking? Is it a game? This seems not to take tarot seriously.

But I think I may be wrong about this, because there are many readers who don’t seem to mind at all. TT&M is a big place with room for everyone, and everyone includes people who like to ask the same question over and over, and people who like to read the same question that has been read many times.

I’d love to hear from the people who ask “will I get the job, pass the test, find true love” here, there, and everywhere. Why do they do this? What do these readings mean to them?

Perhaps another thread is in order here, Libra! And allow me to say at this time that you start the most interesting threads! Although I don’t contribute to many of them, I’m excited every time a new one appears and I follow almost every one avidly.

November 12, 2018

Ok here is my 2 cents worth...
Reading the cards on situations that have already been read by another reader..
It feels disrespectful..

Isn't this exactally what is going on here where many readers are reading the same situation for a member? I think it is 3 pages long now. I have a bee in my bonnet about it :)

I do want to stress that this thread is 100% not a callout post for any other thread or member or situation! That thread was sanctioned by the mods and everyone who read there did so voluntarily - which is definitely part of why I am interested in hearing opinions from people in this forum in particular! I've asked this in other areas of the internet, and generally gotten an echo-chamber of people who share my general discomfort - but like I mentioned, the environment here seems to foster a different outlook, and in the interests of expansion, I wanted to kinda get a look into other people's heads :)

November 12, 2018

The transparency is important, I've had people go to lots of reader's on the same question and it makes you feel like you have not done your job right. If it's a variant question it's better, I know that I will phrase things in my own way and sometimes it's good to get clarity on specific elements, it can even be good to use another reader who is not going to try and bring in the previous reading or try and defend that particular interpretation. On some very complicated questions I have considered going to multiple readers as the question has so many parts that to try and read it in one spread would be a major task. On this site I would rather split the effort sometimes rather than put the burden on a volunteer reader and ask them to do such a big task, though I have not done this yet.

Collaborative reading is something very different though, where we all pool together. Especially as well use different decks that allow us to approach from different perspectives, decks speak in different languages just like readers so a collaborative effort can be a real boon. We've seen recently how beneficial that can be.

I actually have a practice of not looking at a reading done for someone else, partly for privacy but largely in case I am asked to read for that person. I want to be a blank slate if someone wants a clarification of that reading (through an auxiliary reading) I don't want to subconsciously bias myself to say the same thing as the previous reader.

Finally I'll say that I've been impressed when I've read here and someone has asked the same question of a few people that we all gave almost exactly the same answer. It shows that we are really doing something that several of us have got such similar results

November 12, 2018

It depends on the philosophy of the querent and the reader.

That's definitely seeming to be the truth, based on what I'm reading in this thread!

For those of us who see tarot as a way of gaining perspective, or understanding ourselves at deeper levels, or sorting out options, and so forth, then getting multiple readings on the same question is like gathering the best minds together. It’s like establishing a think tank. If the readers know up front that this is what they’re being asked, it’s a respectful use of the tarot cards, and respectful to those who read them.

This is what I had in mind myself. As Wanderer and Raggydoll said (thank you Raggydoll!)

Personally, I have no issue with it. I spend a lot of time on readings, but don't feel that I have any exclusive rights to providing the answer (good thing too, on here! ;)). Especially in complicated situations, there are lots of aspects to consider, and different readers will pick up on different components of the issue. Some will focus on the problems, and some on the opportunities... and so on. Even if I do a very thorough spread, there will still be scope for clarification.

If someone does go into a series of readings waiting for the result they want to appear, that's a problem... but that's a problem with the attitude rather than with the multiple readings themselves. And yes, there are some cases where I'd want to receive multiple perspectives, myself.

Yes. And Grandma[/member] really showed us all how interesting and valuable it can be when we all join arms! Every reader has their own flavor, so to speak, and we all have something unique to bring to the mix. So when it works, it can really be a nice thing to have more than one voice on a specific topic. But, and this is a big BUT - everyone must be in on it. It does not work when readers feel like they were left out on what the real plan was. If you plan on asking many people and it is done in a place like this forum, where everyone can see what goes on and what other readers responds - then I think you MUST be open about it. Otherwise a reader can feel like they are being taken advantage of or if they aren't being respected. And that is a real issue. Even if a reading (in my opinion) belongs to the client, we are still sharing a sacred moment and we are exhanging energies. So there needs to be respect, honesty and integrity coming from both sides.

But when a simple question is shopped around, the situation is more complicated.

If a querent has a yes-or-no question, then I don’t understand why they would run around the forum asking the same question again and again. Is the querent operating on the majority rules principle? Is he or she cherry picking answers? Is he or she taking a poll? Does he or she not really believe that tarot is predictive and is just wishfully thinking? Is it a game? This seems not to take tarot seriously.

Having only been around this forum for like a month or so lol, my main reading experiences aren't from here at all. But, where I have offered free readings elsewhere, I've definitely found that the ones I've seen hitting many readers all at once are fortune-telling-esque or blatant yes/no, or both at the same time. "Will I meet my Soul Mate in December?" type of questions, hitting all the available diviners (and unavailable ones) like a machine gun spray. In that kind of situation, I don't really care what their intention is behind it. I value my time and skill as more than a magic 8 ball, which would work just as well for pretty much all of the options that you brought up there... and, really, I don't feel bad about that lol!

But I think I may be wrong about this, because there are many readers who don’t seem to mind at all. TT&M is a big place with room for everyone, and everyone includes people who like to ask the same question over and over, and people who like to read the same question that has been read many times.

Which is exactly why I'm asking here! I don't like to allow discomfort to rule my life. So, where I find it, I dig into it, and part of that is getting the story from people with a different perspective!

I’d love to hear from the people who ask “will I get the job, pass the test, find true love” here, there, and everywhere. Why do they do this? What do these readings mean to them?

Perhaps another thread is in order here, Libra!

I kinda just figured this thread would be a melting pot of various viewpoints from all sides, as long as people are comfortable sharing! We'll see how that goes lol.

And allow me to say at this time that you start the most interesting threads! Although I don’t contribute to many of them, I’m excited every time a new one appears and I follow almost every one avidly.

lol Thank you! I spend so much time thinking about tarot, it's basically all I want to talk about and Wolfboy gets bored of all of it going over his head (I don't feel bad, he does the same to me with cars, so fair is fair!), so I love having this forum with everyone being willing to chat as well!

November 12, 2018

Ok here is my 2 cents worth...
Reading the cards on situations that have already been read by another reader..
It feels disrespectful..

Isn't this exactally what is going on here where many readers are reading the same situation for a member? I think it is 3 pages long now. I have a bee in my bonnet about it :)

I don't see it quite like that, if someone has posted here asking for a take on a reading and got pages of takes ? Or isn't that what's happening ? ETA I gather not !

Part of me thinks it's discourteous to go to a second reader after getting a reading. On the other hand - there are readers or readings that we just can't relate to. I tend to look at it as being a bit like getting a second opinion about a medical issue - no-one here would argue with that, I think. I have no patience with serial sitters who go around asking for reading after reading in the hope of getting the answer they want in the end. I would like to be told I am being asked for a second opinion, though. And I certainly think it's totally off to go back to a reader and say nyah nyah Madame la Sibylle* told me you were wrong.

*if anyone here calls themselves that, my apologies. But I doubt it !

Full disclosure: there was an experiment years ago on AT where many of us read for the same person on the same question, using whatever deck, spread and method we liked. We all drew different cards, different numbers of cards and so on. The idea was to see how closely the readings matched one another, and whether one approach seemed to work better than another. Surprisingly, as it turned out, the sitter found masses of useful information from every last one of their readers. I was going to run it again here, as a few people have asked me about it. But maybe Grandma has effectively done so - I didn't know of this one !

November 12, 2018

I value my time and skill as more than a magic 8 ball, which would work just as well for pretty much all of the options that you brought up there... and, really, I don't feel bad about that lol!

Magic 8 ball - okay this seriously cracked me up.

It reminds me of almost twenty years ago when my granddaughter was in grade school and made one of those folded paper fortune tellers that have been around for generations. You write answers under the flaps, squeeze the thing in and out many times, and have your "querent' pick a flap. I asked if I would marry a rich man and the answer was yes!

My grandson, six or seven at the time, was skeptical. He said "a rich man who would marry Grandma would have to be really OLD."

Also about that time, with absolutely no knowledge of sexuality, the same granddaughter told me that if I wanted to get married again it was too bad I couldn't marry a woman, because men didn't like women who were "viney". She meant "veiny" of course. I explained to her that not all men were superficial and that not all women were un-superficial, and that hopefully the law would be changed so that women could some day marry women and men could marry men. My grandson said "where is Martin Luther King when we need him!" I had to restrain my laughter while we talked.

This has nothing to do with tarot but I needed some comic relief.

November 12, 2018

It reminds me of almost twenty years ago when my granddaughter was in grade school and made one of those folded paper fortune tellers that have been around for generations. You write answers under the flaps, squeeze the thing in and out many times, and have your "querent' pick a flap. I asked if I would marry a rich man and the answer was yes!

http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104442/future-telling-device

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