Reading the cards on situations that have already been read

[Grandma]

Gasp of amazement - head scratch - dropped jaw - perplexed countenance -

 

Is the wisdom in the folded paper or in the reader who manipulates the folds???

[Raggydoll]

Gasp of amazement - head scratch - dropped jaw - perplexed countenance -

 

Is the wisdom in the folded paper or in the reader who manipulates the folds???

 

X-D I am inclined to think that the wisdom originates from the old tree that the paper was made from  ^-^

[Carus]

ughh lost the long comment I just wrote so I'll summarise it again.  >:(

 

Having had several general readings recently due to being part of exchanges and circles etc. It got me thinking about the effect of a build up of readings, it seems to me that the specificity or generality of the question would have an impact on how helpful re-readngs are.

 

In general in a reading depending on our skills etc.  we will have a mix of hits and misses. Now the hits will logically fall in pretty much the same place each time. The misses on the other hand will likely be much more wide. Thus I will pay more attention here to the misses. It would not be strange to think that a serial querant will get a mix of conflicting misses if they ask the same query often enough. This might lead to a toxic build-up of sorts that can be very confusing, especially if they are not able to discern which parts of their readings were misses. So they can end being misled rather than enlightened, this risk, I suspect, might only grow if they have several readers acting in isolation unable to account for the previous misses and see how the new draws act to mitigate that, as I would presume the "Tarot Power" would act to try and correct the build-up somehow.

 

I would also surmise that if the querant is a reader themselves they would find it easier to sit for multiple readers as they can discern more easily and if needed consult the cards themselves to help unravel all the knots at once. Maybe an "over-reader" could also be a help in guiding a reading being done by a number of readers. Of course that would depend on if you would consider such a multi-reading a group of separate readings or all part of one greater reading that all the readers play into like a big multi-faceted crystal. I'll leave it there for now and see what you guys think.

[Grandma]

Full disclosure: there was an experiment years ago on AT where many of us read for the same person on the same question, using whatever deck, spread and method we liked. We all drew different cards, different numbers of cards and so on. The idea was to see how closely the readings matched one another, and whether one approach seemed to work better than another. Surprisingly, as it turned out, the sitter found masses of useful information from every last one of their readers. I was going to run it again here, as a few people have asked me about it. But maybe Grandma has effectively done so - I didn't know of this one !

 

Yes, I believe I did.  At least it was effective for me and it was well received by the readers who volunteered and by the friends who supported me in PMs.  The number of views suggests that lots of people followed the thread as well.

 

The purpose was different.  It wasn't an experiment to see if readings matched, it was a request for help with a complex issue.  The result was the same - masses of useful information.  If you are interested, you can check it out here https://www.thetarotforum.com/tarot-exchanges/group-exchange-grandma-offers-feedback-for-readings-yeah-you-read-that-right/.

 

Of course that would depend on if you would consider such a multi-reading a group of separate readings or all part of one greater reading that all the readers play into like a big multi-faceted crystal. I'll leave it there for now and see what you guys think.

In the case in point it was a collaborative effort, a group of separate readings that created something very like your big multi-faceted crystal.

[Saturn Celeste]

Full disclosure: there was an experiment years ago on AT where many of us read for the same person on the same question, using whatever deck, spread and method we liked. We all drew different cards, different numbers of cards and so on. The idea was to see how closely the readings matched one another, and whether one approach seemed to work better than another. Surprisingly, as it turned out, the sitter found masses of useful information from every last one of their readers. I was going to run it again here, as a few people have asked me about it. But maybe Grandma has effectively done so - I didn't know of this one !

Do it Gregory!  Let me know what you need to start the group.  <3

 

I've been following this thread closely and do want to say something really important that will give us more to think about.  I've checked out the other tarot forums we all belong to.  And one thing I see in common is they all say they are a learning forum.  We do too.  When AT was online that was the only tarot forum I ever went to.  When they closed and I was shopping around and joined everyone of them, what really struck me on this forum was that TT&M is a learning forum.  Now I do believe it was elegantly written as Little Fang does but it hit home with me.  Yes!  Why not!  We are a REAL learning forum because of the mentor program.  Since then I've noticed the other forums do say it too but I can't help but think Little Fang said it best.  ^-^

 

And that is what leads me to reminding everyone we are a learning forum.  Make sure Libra, our exchange moderator, knows of any feedback issues on the threads.  So it doesn't matter if someone seeking answers tries every single one of us.  It's a process we all go through.  We are a brilliant mix of those who teach, those who learn and those that do both.  We are all united in knowledge.

 

**I didn't word this correctly and want to make an apology if I confused or offended anyone!  That was not my intent.  I'll return with a better explanation.**

 

This is a thread about opinions.  Everyone has their own opinion and that's totally valid and understood.  We are really lucky to have threads we can share our opinions and remain friendly.  This is the joy of the TT&M family.  ((   

[Saturn Celeste]

 

And that is what leads me to reminding everyone we are a learning forum.  Make sure Libra, our exchange moderator, knows of any feedback issues on the threads.  So it doesn't matter if someone seeking answers tries every single one of us.  It's a process we all go through.  We are a brilliant mix of those who teach, those who learn and those that do both.  We are all united in knowledge.

 

**I didn't word this correctly and want to make an apology if I confused or offended anyone!  That was not my intent.  I'll return with a better explanation.**

What I'm trying to say is because we are a learning forum, really and truly, we can consider taking sitters who have been read by other readers on the forum.  Or as a reader you have the option of letting them know you don't care to read the same questions some other reader already has.  Some readers here might just be wanting to get experience and will read anything and others might do exchanges to hone their skills before or during going pro.  We all have good energy to offer and this is how we do it.  Our exchanges here are really growing and that's a very good thing!

 

Be like water

[Carus]

Saturn is right this place is a genuine learning forum. I think that may be why Libra is getting a different response than in other places. This is such an open and friendly place that a lot of issues don't really rear their heads here. We are all coming from our own little worlds and paradigms and contributing to this wonderful place where everyone can grow. I love how polite and cordial everyone is here and how this place seems genuinely concerned in the growth of all its' members.

[sandrang123]

Doesn't bother me one bit.

[gregory]

Full disclosure: there was an experiment years ago on AT where many of us read for the same person on the same question, using whatever deck, spread and method we liked. We all drew different cards, different numbers of cards and so on. The idea was to see how closely the readings matched one another, and whether one approach seemed to work better than another. Surprisingly, as it turned out, the sitter found masses of useful information from every last one of their readers. I was going to run it again here, as a few people have asked me about it. But maybe Grandma has effectively done so - I didn't know of this one !

Do it Gregory!  Let me know what you need to start the group.  <3

 

OK - in the New Year.

[Saturn Celeste]

Full disclosure: there was an experiment years ago on AT where many of us read for the same person on the same question, using whatever deck, spread and method we liked. We all drew different cards, different numbers of cards and so on. The idea was to see how closely the readings matched one another, and whether one approach seemed to work better than another. Surprisingly, as it turned out, the sitter found masses of useful information from every last one of their readers. I was going to run it again here, as a few people have asked me about it. But maybe Grandma has effectively done so - I didn't know of this one !

Do it Gregory!  Let me know what you need to start the group.  <3

 

OK - in the New Year.

I'll remind you!  And thank you!

[Hiraeth]

I don’t mind as long as it’s either a second opinion and they tell me about it upfront, or it’s been 2-3+ months since their last reading. I never want to say another reader is “wrong”, but sometimes it does take more than one reading, or a different reading from a different energy, to get to the bottom of the issue. More than two readers and/or readings in that 3 months is a no go. Only exception is one very close friend!

[Grizabella]

I need to clarify my vote because I didn't find the box for what I won't read on.  I won't re-read another reader's reading. If someone comes to me with the spread and cards from another reading they've had with someone else, I'll still read for them but I won't read their same exact cards from the other reader. I'll do another spread on the same question, but whatever the previous reader saw is not for me to validate or pass judgment on.

 

I'll also not read about whether someone is gay or not but that's another thread topic.

[Raggydoll]

I need to clarify my vote because I didn't find the box for what I won't read on.  I won't re-read another reader's reading. If someone comes to me with the spread and cards from another reading they've had with someone else, I'll still read for them but I won't read their same exact cards from the other reader. I'll do another spread on the same question, but whatever the previous reader saw is not for me to validate or pass judgment on.

 

I'll also not read about whether someone is gay or not but that's another thread topic.

 

Yeah there needs to be a sense of respect toward colleagues. I always try to stay away from analyzing or critiquing interpretations that other readers might have given to the client. It’s not only a matter of respect but it also acknowledges the fact that many readers get their information intuitively and the they might also use different decks/traditions than I do. Plus it kind of feels like a waste of time that could be better spent at doing a new reading  ^-^

[Grizabella]

You're right Raggy Doll. Another reader's abilities and what her/his intuition gives them is really all their own.

 

I was just sitting here thinking what a rotten thing it would be if there were a bitch session of readers knocking other readers, you know? It's just way out of line. I honestly can't imagine any readers we know who would even do that.

 

Now that I think of it, though, I guess if a reader's only motivation was money, I guess they might knock or pick on other readers in order to try to  get more clients themselves. But my reasons for offering readings is not the money. I charge what I charge because I value my readings as being fair at the price, but if I were wealthy, I'd read for free. My motive isn't to make a bunch of money, it's to survive in a world where I can't even afford the basics of everyday living. I do beadwork and I paint and do what I can to earn money that way, but i don't come near doing any more than just providing for myself and my little pets. I have a small income that's stable every month, but it only covers what I pay for my rent and electricity. Anything else is gotten by readings paid for by Amazon gift certificate so I can order things online and know they'll be delivered. That doesn't always provide much above my needs but on occasion I do get something I want because there's a little extra. I have two Anne Rice books on the way that I got from used sellers so I'm excited about those.

 

 

[Clairbuoyant]

People seek consultations with tarot readers for clarity and guidance.  People seek consultations with professionals for clarity and guidance. When a client doesn’t agree with the opinion/advice a professional (doctor, lawyer, acupuncturist, accountant)  gives them, they are free to seek a second opinion (or third, fourth, etc).  It’s not anything personal to the professional. Not all professional will see a matter in the same way or have the same outlook. 

[Aldor44]

As  I have mentioned in the poll itself- I don't mind reading on a question that has been read about- because I believe that the Tarot show us possibilities - options that are more likely than not to occur- plus - similar to medium ship or what ever getting information from higher beings is called in English ( seriously I would love to know what it is called..  :shhh: ) I believe that the receiver "digests" the information using his own inner "library" of associations  thus receiving a certain aspect of the answer. If this is indeed so- then the more readers you have the more unique points of view and  insights you get.. which might shed a better and clearer light on the picture itself- even if some reading seemingly contradict each other...

 

One disclaimer- when reading on a question already asked I make it a point to NOT know/look at what was previously said as to not get influenced by it on any level...

[DanielJUK]

I think context is important here. Going to different professional tarot readers or different readers of different methods of divination is fine for me, you are paying money and getting second opinions if you want that. It doesn't matter if you don't reveal you got a reading on it before or you can be upfront about it and see what the reader thinks. There are some professional readers who won't take repeat questions / readings as well I have seen online. But it's harder to know that it's been read on before with one to one communication.

 

However I share D and Libra's thoughts when taking it to the context on this forum (and other places online and it happened on AT as well). There is nothing more soul crushing than seeing someone you just spent time and energy reading for, then ask the same exact question from someone else and then in the same week someone else. I think that is disrespectful! It shows they don't give your work any regard at all and that kind of thing thrives in a free reading environment (even with feedback being compulsory). This is why many readers say that you cannot ask the same question or topic within at least a month from any other exchange. We see it because the exchange threads appear in recent topics and we might click on updated posts and see the exact same question asked  :'(

 

From the sitter point of view, I think getting different opinions can be helpful on more professional questions and choice related questions, if it is a big thing / decision get different opinions on it. But I think on emotional questions it's really unhelpful. Emotional / love related areas just get more and more confusing the more you read on them. The point of patience and letting something manifest is to trust and see what happens. Getting multiple readings on the same situation / topic or question shows anxiety, not having faith with the process. I am not sure if Tarot can help with that, at times we feel really uncertain about life and the situation and something we have to work on ourselves.

[gregory]

I need to clarify my vote because I didn't find the box for what I won't read on.  I won't re-read another reader's reading. If someone comes to me with the spread and cards from another reading they've had with someone else, I'll still read for them but I won't read their same exact cards from the other reader. I'll do another spread on the same question, but whatever the previous reader saw is not for me to validate or pass judgment on.

 

I'll also not read about whether someone is gay or not but that's another thread topic.

Why exclude that in particular ? I won't read on that either - but nor will I read on any specific question about someone else not present - I thought you were OK with "third party readings". I am not. And so many people point out that you can pick up on third party stuff in passing. That's different.

 

I need to clarify my vote because I didn't find the box for what I won't read on.  I won't re-read another reader's reading. If someone comes to me with the spread and cards from another reading they've had with someone else, I'll still read for them but I won't read their same exact cards from the other reader. I'll do another spread on the same question, but whatever the previous reader saw is not for me to validate or pass judgment on.

 

I'll also not read about whether someone is gay or not but that's another thread topic.

 

Yeah there needs to be a sense of respect toward colleagues. I always try to stay away from analyzing or critiquing interpretations that other readers might have given to the client. It’s not only a matter of respect but it also acknowledges the fact that many readers get their information intuitively and the they might also use different decks/traditions than I do. Plus it kind of feels like a waste of time that could be better spent at doing a new reading  ^-^

I'm OK with second opinion readings - as long as I get to pull my own cards (as the Tarot Powers show us the cards that we each need for our own methods !) and as long as I am not in fact a 47th opinion asked for by a serial validation seeker. You know - they have been told over and over that the man they "know" is totally in love with them won't leave his wife and they KNOW he will, and every reading says - er, no... so they ask again. And again. And so on. There - like DanielJUK - I will not get involved.