Gilded Reverie, Extended Edition

[FLizarraga]

This will tell you how out of touch I am. Apparently this deck has been selling for a year or so, and I just bumped into it by chance! It has the extra, sexed up Man and Woman cards of the original and long OOP self-published edition, plus a few other additional cards.

So --who else has it, who uses it? Love, hate, meh?           

[FLizarraga]

Funny that no one has responded. I have found almost zero mention of this deck in the forums, so perhaps it has passed unnoticed?

[DanielJUK]

Unfortunately it came out in the exact month of AT closing (July 2017)  :'( and also this forum was born then and in the first year of this forum, the Lenormand area was really really quiet! Just DNDer and I tried to get it going but there just wasn't any postings. So there hasn't been too much Lenormand deck discussion. I very rarely see threads here still.

 

I always wanted the extended version of this deck and I was surprised to really love the regular Gilded Reverie, it was my first ever Ciro deck! I have been following him on Facebook for a few years and he uses it like a journal and talks about his creative processes. Originally he published the Gilded Reverie on his own site, it was his first journey into Lenormand and he added the extra cards. This was a limited edition deck, autographed, etc. USGames picked it up and the regular edition with only regular Lenormand cards was released massmarket. However people for years would email him wanting the extra cards or that special edition but it was very OOP and had great value! So USGames made the limited version, there is a few differences and it is not signed. In his writings on FB he learnt from this to never release decks with extra special edition cards between his own self-publishing and massmarket, it caused so many problems later on! You will see now he does publish special limited editions of his decks but the cards are always exactly the same, you get something special with his limited version and it's always signed and numbered but they have the same cards after this.

 

I always wanted those extra cards and got this and I am not sure about it honestly. I know the "expanded" cards are based on European card games of the time, like the Lenormands and Kippers, many of the others had a Dice (lucky fate) type card and those extra cards are not just invented out of thin air, they are based on a similar card of the time. But I don't know if it adds to my readings or not? Maybe I am just too traditionalist. I also find it a bit difficult to add the new cards in with existing combinations and keywords of cards that I know. I find them hard to use in a deck when I am used to 36! I say all that but I think they have given me more insight in my readings. I did a reading for myself and Bridge came up and it was so important! About a year ago, I did some Lenormand readings on here and when they came out, they powerfully added to the readings in areas not covered by the regular 36 cards. So I am mixed about those extra cards, are they needed or not? Would the Lenormand have given me the same message through the regular cards? hmmm I cannot decide definitely on their importance but I am glad to own them now and see their beautiful artwork!  :thumbsup: I do now have both decks  >:D

[FLizarraga]

Thanks for sharing this,Daniel! Yes, I guess it was unfortunate timing, after all.

 

I struggle with Lenormand still (too many diverging sources and methods, it's a bit Babel-ish for me), but curiously enough the few Lenormand readings I have done that have just clicked have been with the regular Gilded Reverie. I wanted those sexy cards and I'm glad they were released. I haven't really read with the new one at all.

[CoffinHorse]

The expanded edition is the deck I use, though I do take out the extra man and woman card for my personal readings. I use most of the extra cards, I took out the mask and time card because I felt they both brought more confusion than clarity.

 

Love this deck so much, the extra cards are fun because they are so open to new non traditional interpretation. For example, my friend and I are big into card and dice games so when the dice card comes up in a reading we also associate it with gaming along with luck. 

[MoonBear]

 

I Only got into the Lenormand A couple of days ago and found it very hard to decide which one to get but in the end my decision fell for the  gilded Reveriedeck and ordered it probably it will arrive tomorrow and I’m very excited

 What I liked was the images to which I can relate it has a kind of Celtic feel about it I think  

i also like that there is a second man and woman as I am queer myself and like to have the opportunity to see that in the cards

because I am a very impatient person I looked on the App Store for a Lenormand App and was very pleasantly surprised to find that this deck also has an app I normally like to ask questions with the real cards but I thought to learn it can’t hurt to ask a few questions digitally

I wasn’t expecting much also to get more answers that don’t fit but the answers always were a very direct and to the point that’s what I like about this deck and also Lenormand in general 

although I heard that the system is more made for practical questions I could ask psychological/spiritual questions just as well and get good fitting answers and that’s what I like very much because I’m not very much into telling the future that’s just not my style of reading 

I read some reviews where some people said that this deck is not good for beginners because it’s not always clear which card is which but I can see it very clearly and think at least for me it’s a good beginners deck I think I could not work with a very old style kind of deck because also in tarot I tend to go more for the Morgan decks

so I am very happy to be able to have this deck in my hands soon

Edited June 3, 2020 by MoonBear

[DownUnderNZer]

 

Extended Version

 

It is a great deck and I do appreciate Ciro's artwork. I have most of his decks I think - if not all.

 

I did try this in a GT last year, but never again. Those extra cards in it were fine when actually doing it, but not later when updating and trying to remember what was what. 😳

 

Those extra cards, however, do add an extra kind of flavour...

 

DND 🌟

[bastetly]

17 hours ago, MoonBear said:

so I am very happy to be able to have this dick in my hands soon

Do you think an edit may be apropos in this case @MoonBear? 🥴 😅

[DownUnderNZer]

2 hours ago, bastetly said:

Do you think an edit may be apropos in this case @MoonBear? 🥴 😅

 

Could be a Freudian slip or subconscious thinking...🤣

[MoonBear]

Sorry i use text to speech because of a Disability so sometimes it writes nonsense that is not intended

[FLizarraga]

7 hours ago, bastetly said:

Do you think an edit may be apropos in this case @MoonBear? 🥴 😅

 

5 hours ago, DownUnderNZer said:

 

Could be a Freudian slip or subconscious thinking...🤣

 

1 hour ago, MoonBear said:

Sorry i use text to speech because of a Disability so sometimes it writes nonsense that is not intended

Alas, it happens to the best of us... 🥰

 

I'm glad there is some conversation about this deck. I think it is brilliant, and I'm happy it came out in a mass-published edition, since the original self-published one is long gone and Ciro has expressed time and again his disinterest in reprinting it.

[DownUnderNZer]

17 hours ago, MoonBear said:

Sorry i use text to speech because of a Disability so sometimes it writes nonsense that is not intended

 

@MoonBear

 

It's fine - I never picked up on it until it was pointed out and even then didn't see it as anything but a typo.

 

I make typo errors all the time.

 

But back to this deck - beautiful art and easy to visually grasp except one card if you didn't know it was Crossroads or Paths in the traditional sense. But if you know your numbers from 1 to 36 - it's all good.

 

I do enjoy the extra cards and their meanings too if I want something more or a different spin on a reading. 

 

@FLizarraga. Shame he isn't considering a reprint - his work is based on incredible talent and is truly phenomenal.

 

 

DND ☀️

[FLizarraga]

9 hours ago, DownUnderNZer said:

 

@MoonBear

 

It's fine - I never picked up on it until it was pointed out and even then didn't see it as anything but a typo.

 

I make typo errors all the time.

 

It was an obvious typo --but a funny one.

 

9 hours ago, DownUnderNZer said:

@FLizarraga. Shame he isn't considering a reprint - his work is based on incredible talent and is truly phenomenal.

 

 

DND ☀️

Luckily US Games picked it up.

[MoonBear]

So I came home from staying at my partners apartment for a couple of days and found this lovely package sitting on my bed I immediately have to open  it without even unpacking my bag 

 

as soon as I had them in my hands I really loved them I saw the pictures of all of The cards  already online but it’s another thing to see them and have them in your hands .

my partner who brought me back home saw this deck and immediately wanted to shuffle through them and as he did that he said he liked the imagery very much Although he normally only doesRunes  and has never picked up any kind of cards so I have to be careful that they won’t start to wander 

so I haven’t done a reading yet because I normally first ask the teachers I work with to bless my cards and that takes some silence which I haven’t have yet but I’m very excited

[DownUnderNZer]

7 hours ago, MoonBear said:

So I came home from staying at my partners apartment for a couple of days and found this lovely package sitting on my bed I immediately have to open  it without even unpacking my bag 

 

as soon as I had them in my hands I really loved them I saw the pictures of all of The cards  already online but it’s another thing to see them and have them in your hands .

my partner who brought me back home saw this deck and immediately wanted to shuffle through them and as he did that he said he liked the imagery very much Although he normally only doesRunes  and has never picked up any kind of cards so I have to be careful that they won’t start to wander 

so I haven’t done a reading yet because I normally first ask the teachers I work with to bless my cards and that takes some silence which I haven’t have yet but I’m very excited

 

Hope you connect with it and enjoy it immensely. The regular one  is one deck that would be in my top 10 - the extended one has a special place as well for when I want to indulge or see what else might be brought to the table. 

 

Hope it doesn't go a wondering...🙃

 

DND

 

 

[Barleywine]

The original mass-market Gilded Reverie was my first Lenormand deck and I still have a fondness for it (sitters love it as well), but I've since moved on to more traditional decks. I've never felt compelled to buy the expanded version because I don't use extra cards in my readings.

[Wyrdkiss]

Purchased the expanded Gilded version last year. It is truly stunning!

 

I dabbled and experimented with Lenormand. It is not to my perspective or liking. Guess I'm a tarot man through-and-through. With that

said, however, I will always keep this Gilded Reverie pack for reference in my collection. Simply lovely. Hope you continue to enjoy.

[MoonBear]

So I only purchased the expanded edition because here in Germany that’s the only edition that is available through Amazon

but now after I did a few readings I find that the additional cards confuse me more

also I have a little problem the meaning of the additional cards are in the booklet but the booklet is so small that I can’t even read it with a magnifying glass due to my visual impairment
The meaning of the traditional cards I can also find it online but I cannot find anything about the Additional cards so I have to guess what they mean and also there is nothing about combinations which as a beginner makes me nervous maybe I will work with them when I am really more advanced in my reading skills

 

I really wish I had the opportunity to have the booklet as a digital version or print it out bigger but I don’t know how this would be possible

Edited June 6, 2020 by MoonBear

[AJ-ish/Sharyn]

I'm losing my vision too, one thing I've found is scanning the page, and then stretching it on my screen helps. I'm hoping digital books for decks are an option soon. Some self publishers are already doing it. 

And back on target, my personal opinion only, all the extra Lenormand cards are offered because they can, not because they should 🙂  Welcome to the forum. 

[DownUnderNZer]

11 hours ago, MoonBear said:

So I only purchased the expanded edition because here in Germany that’s the only edition that is available through Amazon

but now after I did a few readings I find that the additional cards confuse me more

also I have a little problem the meaning of the additional cards are in the booklet but the booklet is so small that I can’t even read it with a magnifying glass due to my visual impairment
The meaning of the traditional cards I can also find it online but I cannot find anything about the Additional cards so I have to guess what they mean and also there is nothing about combinations which as a beginner makes me nervous maybe I will work with them when I am really more advanced in my reading skills

 

I really wish I had the opportunity to have the booklet as a digital version or print it out bigger but I don’t know how this would be possible

@MoonBear

 

If you are a beginner beginner then just learn the 36 cards first and their basic meanings whether through a book or whatever source. E.g. Internet. Downpack them. Different schools such as the German and Lenormand only have about 5 cards that differ in meaning - so just be aware of that.

 

Combinations can definitely unveil a lot more, but mastering it can be a bit of a challenge. As for the extended - it would confuse you if you don't know any basic meanings and/or that the first 36 cards are really what is used in Lenormand readings traditionally.

 

Best advice I can give you for cards 1 to 36 is don't stray from the original meanings nor use intuition like there is no tomorrow. In addition, don't go off on a totally different tangent which can happen and don't stray from the question being asked of the cards. Odd numbers when doing spreads and left to right until you are ready to spread your wings and experiment to your heart's content.

 

Get the basics down first because once that is done - the Lenormand is your oyster.

 

DND ☀️

 

 

[Barleywine]

On 6/6/2020 at 2:30 PM, DownUnderNZer said:

@MoonBear

 

If you are a beginner beginner then just learn the 36 cards first and their basic meanings whether through a book or whatever source. E.g. Internet. Downpack them. Different schools such as the German and Lenormand only have about 5 cards that differ in meaning - so just be aware of that.

 

Combinations can definitely unveil a lot more, but mastering it can be a bit of a challenge. As for the extended - it would confuse you if you don't know any basic meanings and/or that the first 36 cards are really what is used in Lenormand readings traditionally.

 

Best advice I can give you for cards 1 to 36 is don't stray from the original meanings nor use intuition like there is no tomorrow. In addition, don't go off on a totally different tangent which can happen and don't stray from the question being asked of the cards. Odd numbers when doing spreads and left to right until you are ready to spread your wings and experiment to your heart's content.

 

Get the basics down first because once that is done - the Lenormand is your oyster.

 

DND ☀️

 

 

Excellent advice. Even though I bought the Gilded Reverie first, I had Andy B to steer me back on Aeclectic and I got onto the Philippe Lenormand Sheet (the original LWB) early on in my Lenormand odyssey. It's dated but still a worthy (and free) resource.

Edited June 8, 2020 by Barleywine

[DownUnderNZer]

2 hours ago, Barleywine said:

Excellent advice. Even though I bought the Gilded Reverie first, I had Andy B to steer me back on Aeclectic and I got onto the Philippe Lenormand Sheet (the original LWB) early on in my Lenormand odyssey. It's dated but still a worthy (and free) resource.

 

Phillipe Lenormand - if very very basic it must be what Anthony Louis put out some years back: Lenormand Symbols. Mind you, I'm sure he gave alternative and modern meanings as well. 

 

Shame I could never get into the playing cards side of it because those were what I first learned and it was hard to unlearn or see certain cards as being the opposite.

 

But that book is a great resource if one wants it in English and just the bare bone basic meanings.

 

DND 🌟

 

[MoonBear]

Thanks For the advice but I don’t really know what the French or the German school is because I only have certain online sources or PDFs where there is not stated which kind of school it is

I mostly stick to the meanings of Anna K on her website in combination with the book of Rana George because both have more psychological/spiritual aspects in their meanings as my question are mostly less concerned with fortune-telling then questions of inner discovery

The most old meanings I can find Are much too much based on fortune-telling for my liking like the fish mean money which is not applicable when I for instance ask what is the reason for this or that feeling or behaviour

I just have the Feeling that I can’t apply this old meanings to my questions I like the Modern  interpretations best

for me I try to not only rely on my intuition but intuition is just a thing that comes often times I also get other images in my head when I’m looking at the cards but I try to incorporate both I don’t also know if I am a complete beginner because I have worked with Tarot and other Oracle systems already although I know that Lenormand it’s completely different than Tarot 

Edited June 8, 2020 by MoonBear

[DownUnderNZer]

On 6/8/2020 at 8:43 PM, MoonBear said:

Thanks For the advice but I don’t really know what the French or the German school is because I only have certain online sources or PDFs where there is not stated which kind of school it is

I mostly stick to the meanings of Anna K on her website in combination with the book of Rana George because both have more psychological/spiritual aspects in their meanings as my question are mostly less concerned with fortune-telling then questions of inner discovery

The most old meanings I can find Are much too much based on fortune-telling for my liking like the fish mean money which is not applicable when I for instance ask what is the reason for this or that feeling or behaviour

I just have the Feeling that I can’t apply this old meanings to my questions I like the Modern  interpretations best

for me I try to not only rely on my intuition but intuition is just a thing that comes often times I also get other images in my head when I’m looking at the cards but I try to incorporate both I don’t also know if I am a complete beginner because I have worked with Tarot and other Oracle systems already although I know that Lenormand it’s completely different than Tarot 

 

 

Anna K is in line with the German school  therefore traditional and heavier (am sure this will be corrected if not right) and Rana George seems to be more in line with the French system which is modern and lighter. Belgium seems to cross between the two when it comes to the cards - makes sense as the country borders on the other two. Some if not most from there, however, don't seem to see the Snake as a treacherous woman. Also, these systems roam boundaries as well so are not just France only or Germany only.

 

Lenormand, I believe, was meant to be used for everyday questions not necessarily as a tool to read fortunes as such. A direct method of asking questions and providing to the point answers - if you like.

 

As for Psychological and/or Emotions- emotions are hard to read with these cards and some prefer to avoid those types of questions like the plague. 

 

I think once you get the knack of them there are no limits answering those kinds of questions at all.

 

They nail almost anything and everything and can either be read quick and to the point with no depth whatsoever or so in depth it can make a person feel like you see right through them and into their very soul.

 

But it takes true dedication, trial and error, respect for what they are about and understanding their basic meanings in and out.

 

Best of luck!

 

PS Maybe do your own journal journey on here with them as you learn. I think there is a section on TT & Me for journals when learning - not too sure.

 

DND ☀️

[Barleywine]

On 6/7/2020 at 11:57 PM, DownUnderNZer said:

 

Phillipe Lenormand - if very very basic it must be what Anthony Louis put out some years back: Lenormand Symbols. Mind you, I'm sure he gave alternative and modern meanings as well. 

 

Shame I could never get into the playing cards side of it because those were what I first learned and it was hard to unlearn or see certain cards as being the opposite.

 

But that book is a great resource if one wants it in English and just the bare bone basic meanings.

 

DND 🌟

 

I bought the Louis book on Kindle. It's pretty slim but worthwhile. I would recommend Andy's Lenormand 36 Cards above all others for a beginner.