Adriana Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) Have you ever dreamed (as in night dreams) about tarot cards? If you see cards in your dream would you try to interpret them as if you were getting that card in a draw? What if the imagery was different somehow.. I dreamed that I asked what my bf (right now on another continent) feels about me and first card was 5 of pentacles from the Connolly deck which features a blindfolded woman by a closed gate and and angel touching her blindfold. But the weird part is that the regular image was on the face up (like usually where the generic image on the back of the cards are), but on the other side a woman sits on a harbor blindfolded with lots of kids around her. Edited September 9, 2019 by Adriana
zedekiel Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, Adriana said: Have you ever dreamed (as in night dreams) about tarot cards? If you see cards in your dream would you try to interpret them as if you were getting that card in a draw? What if the imagery was different somehow.. I think it would depend on my experience. At the stage I'm in now, I would have to take the message of the card as a grain of salt, because my lower subconscious may just be projecting the feelings/anxieties/themes/messages of a card or cards if I've been thinking about it a lot into my dream. It's not as trustworthy I think as reading right from the deck. But... maybe if I'd been doing Tarot for 20 years or have done decades of other oracle and scribe magic, or magic in dreams, I'd trust it a bit more.
Adriana Posted September 9, 2019 Author Posted September 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, zedekiel said: I think it would depend on my experience. At the stage I'm in now, I would have to take the message of the card as a grain of salt, because my lower subconscious may just be projecting the feelings/anxieties/themes/messages of a card or cards if I've been thinking about it a lot into my dream. It's not as trustworthy I think as reading right from the deck. But... maybe if I'd been doing Tarot for 20 years or have done decades of other oracle and scribe magic, or magic in dreams, I'd trust it a bit more. Dreams are often about playing out so you can deal with fears, strong emotions etc. so I can see your point here. It baffles me how creative the dreams can be with having two sets of imagery on each side!
zedekiel Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, Adriana said: I dreamed that I asked what my bf (right now on another continent) feels about me and first card was 5 of pentacles from the Connolly deck which features a blindfolded woman by a closed gate and and angel touching her blindfold. But the weird part is that the regular image was on the face up (like usually where the generic image on the back of the cards are), but on the other side a woman sits on a harbor blindfolded with lots of kids around her. This is really interesting imagery. As if the face of the card was the traditional meaning but under the surface and in the depths of it there was a slightly different/bigger message. Harbour reminds me of travel, departure, and returning. Kids remind me of things that are lovable and joyous but also responsibilities and things to take care of. Commitment to something that you care about. If I saw this imagery in relation to your boyfriend, I would think about the initial meaning of the card (worry, physical loss, insecurity in surroundings, only seeing what's not there) and about the new imagery. Perhaps as you wait for him to return your anxieties are blinding you to only focus on his absence, rather than your presence. In relation to the children and how he feels about you, I would read that as he feels committed to you and cares about you, in abundance (since you said there were a lot of kids). Other stuff could be things like overt responsibilities to you, feeling like he supports and nurtures you, or that you do for him. This is just what pops to mind when thinking about the imagery, since it's from a dream I'm not as sure of it, but I think maybe hashing out my initial thoughts might be helpful in getting the mental ball rolling on this? You're right, it's incredibly creative visually.
Adriana Posted September 9, 2019 Author Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, zedekiel said: This is really interesting imagery. As if the face of the card was the traditional meaning but under the surface and in the depths of it there was a slightly different/bigger message. Harbour reminds me of travel, departure, and returning. Kids remind me of things that are lovable and joyous but also responsibilities and things to take care of. Commitment to something that you care about. If I saw this imagery in relation to your boyfriend, I would think about the initial meaning of the card (worry, physical loss, insecurity in surroundings, only seeing what's not there) and about the new imagery. Perhaps as you wait for him to return your anxieties are blinding you to only focus on his absence, rather than your presence. In relation to the children and how he feels about you, I would read that as he feels committed to you and cares about you, in abundance (since you said there were a lot of kids). Other stuff could be things like overt responsibilities to you, feeling like he supports and nurtures you, or that you do for him. This is just what pops to mind when thinking about the imagery, since it's from a dream I'm not as sure of it, but I think maybe hashing out my initial thoughts might be helpful in getting the mental ball rolling on this? You're right, it's incredibly creative visually. Thanks for your in depth thoughts! I was also thinking of layered meanings, or an illusory meaning and a real one underneath. I was thinking it could mean I was taking the cards a bit too literally recently (when I drew cards in my waking life last week) and the dream nudges me to look deeper. Harbor here makes sense as relating to him being away and either/or the absence or coming return like you say. I didn’t think of the kids as lovable commitments, but I guess that could fit in here too. If the dream just deals with my own feelings of what I’m hoping/afraid he is feeling then they could mean my own commitment and lovely feelings. But on a surface level not being aware how deep my feelings are. There’s water by a harbor too and that can relate to feelings. Maybe it can be about him! Maybe he feels all my commitment and feelings and he therefore feels responsible and possibly burdened. Because it’s a dream and not something I got during a reading I’m not sure which way to take it. I guess I need to feel and think a bit more on it to know. Edited September 9, 2019 by Adriana
DanielJUK Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 When we learn tarot and study the cards, we have knowledge about that card and understanding. When it comes up in our dreams I think it's short hand, instead of producing a load of symbols, it just produces an image of a tarot card as the message that we will understand. I think this is a sweet message really, he doesn't want you to feel alone whilst he is far away, in relation to the dream question but on the other side, he wants a family, children and so there is a commitment with you, a progress. This is pretty serious in the dream. But the question I would ask is if he is there? It feels like he wants to make you the base, security and stability, a home, a family and the kids seem like a solution to leaving you alone but it's not necessarily easy if you are on your own (now with the family). I have a friend whose husband owns a shipping company and she has spent most of her life alone whilst he travels and does business. She raised her kids on her own but really she had little support and spent huge stretches on her own, it's a real challenge. The situation isn't easy but feels like he doesn't want to leave you and wants you to have support from him in this kids way 🙂 That's my take. Perhaps because this is a dream, this is what you want him to say, I think you have to decide if the question is a message about him or a question as a message to you.
Adriana Posted September 10, 2019 Author Posted September 10, 2019 20 hours ago, DanielJUK said: When we learn tarot and study the cards, we have knowledge about that card and understanding. When it comes up in our dreams I think it's short hand, instead of producing a load of symbols, it just produces an image of a tarot card as the message that we will understand. I think this is a sweet message really, he doesn't want you to feel alone whilst he is far away, in relation to the dream question but on the other side, he wants a family, children and so there is a commitment with you, a progress. This is pretty serious in the dream. But the question I would ask is if he is there? It feels like he wants to make you the base, security and stability, a home, a family and the kids seem like a solution to leaving you alone but it's not necessarily easy if you are on your own (now with the family). I have a friend whose husband owns a shipping company and she has spent most of her life alone whilst he travels and does business. She raised her kids on her own but really she had little support and spent huge stretches on her own, it's a real challenge. The situation isn't easy but feels like he doesn't want to leave you and wants you to have support from him in this kids way 🙂 That's my take. Perhaps because this is a dream, this is what you want him to say, I think you have to decide if the question is a message about him or a question as a message to you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :) Im sure he doesn’t want me to feel bad when he is away. I’m not sure he wants kids and family, I mean I’m sure he wants it not too many years from now but we haven’t spoken about this. So that’s why I wasn’t sure what the kids meant. But who knows, maybe the dream is telling me something about that. Hmm, I does travel quite a bit for a week or two at a time, maybe the dream is trying to tell me about a possible future with him and this is a sort of forecast or warning that I need to start consider. But yes, it’s not so easy here since it could all just be things I worry wish for too that I’m not aware of.
zedekiel Posted September 24, 2019 Posted September 24, 2019 I had a dream last night that I was sitting in the grass with an acquaintance-friend watching The Magician stand in front of us and transmogrify as the sun went up and down again and again. When I woke up I remembered this thread because it's strange to think of what these symbols mean when we've been told all our lives that our dreams are nothing more than replaying thoughts from the day. On 9/9/2019 at 2:08 AM, zedekiel said: I think it would depend on my experience. At the stage I'm in now, I would have to take the message of the card as a grain of salt, because my lower subconscious may just be projecting the feelings/anxieties/themes/messages of a card or cards if I've been thinking about it a lot into my dream. It's not as trustworthy I think as reading right from the deck. But... maybe if I'd been doing Tarot for 20 years or have done decades of other oracle and scribe magic, or magic in dreams, I'd trust it a bit more. This was the first thing I replied on this thread a few weeks ago. Since then I've gotten very interested in this subject and read up on it. I think I'd have to disagree with myself a bit now because I think it's very likely that all of us receive messages through dreams all the time. And if you've read tarot, no matter your skill level, the images you know from the cards are just another way for messages to be sent to you.@Adriana Have you thought any more about your dream since last post? I'm very interested if any new answers or results came up.
Adriana Posted September 25, 2019 Author Posted September 25, 2019 Your dream is very fascinating! It’s also interesting that you started having dreaming that after this thread. Id think about your relationship to your friend in this case and if what you saw could somehow apply to your perception of this person, the acquaintance relationship itself or even a message about that person! I have no idea what it could mean though.. it made me think of the circle of life with the Sun rising and setting all the time. Like a loop. For me, I’m still not sure about the dream. We’ve met a few times after he came back home and things have been great.
Swanhild Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 I would probably try to interpret if I felt it's supposed to be a message. Otherwise I tend to deal with dreams by letting the emotions I wake up with linger a bit, and don't try to overanalyze. But now I REALLY want a two-sided deck...
Adriana Posted September 25, 2019 Author Posted September 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, Swanhild said: I would probably try to interpret if I felt it's supposed to be a message. Otherwise I tend to deal with dreams by letting the emotions I wake up with linger a bit, and don't try to overanalyze. But now I REALLY want a two-sided deck... Yes, two sided! But will be hard to pick cards without seeing what they are lol Somehow this worked out in my dream 😁
zedekiel Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 @Adriana I'm very happy to know that things have been great since he's come back home! Maybe that card in the dream was just simply trying to say "don't worry"? I've now had a few more dreams about the Magician since that initial one. Each one has become more intense, and often that the Magician is in the process of transmogrifying something. I wonder if he wants me to be on the lookout for something important I need to manifest. I've had another dream about that acquaintance-friend too, minus the magician. It's all very strange, dreams would be frustrating if they weren't so fun aha
Hedera Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 10:06 AM, Swanhild said: I would probably try to interpret if I felt it's supposed to be a message. Otherwise I tend to deal with dreams by letting the emotions I wake up with linger a bit, and don't try to overanalyze. But now I REALLY want a two-sided deck... I *think* there is at least one two-sided deck, by LoScarabeo... Can't remember the name though! Something forest? Fairy? Enchanted? Although, thinking about it more, I think it has similar images on both sides, with one of them in black & white and simplified. There is also some kind of affirmations deck, very brightly coloured, with unicorns and lots of swearing... No idea on the title of that one, I saw it briefly in a YouTube video the other day *** Years ago, before I had started using it much (bought the deck when I was 13 or 14, but couldn't make heads or tails of it then), I had a dream about the Thoth Empress. It was wonderful: just a very calm, cool, damp, green, safe feeling, like being in an ancient forest in late spring. I could hear birds singing, water streaming and I could smell the wet earth. There was a sense of a quiet, protective, slightly amused presence. It still is one of my favorite cards from the deck, and one of my favorite Empress cards ever! The Thoth lends itself very well for what I call 'dream cards': before I go to sleep, I pick out one single card (usually face-up, so a conscious pick, not a random draw) and look at it for a while, really absorb it, and invite it to accompany me into sleep. It's lovely to do with cards like the Star, the Empress, court cards etc. I sometimes use other decks for that too, like the Moonchild.
gregory Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 The Vice-Versa from LoS is double sided, but I don't think that's the one meant. The Tarot of the Secret Forest has the images repeated in black and white on the backs. Fascinating dream, though.
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