Shalom!

[Rivka]

Hello!
My name's Rivka, and I am a brazilian jewish of mixed origin (ashkenazi /sepharadi). I have been studying tarot for years now - I started when I was about 12 with the Mythic Tarot, when the bookseller woman at my mother's university conviced me to buy it, since I was really into reading about greek myths. I've been reading about Tarot for all of those years (I am 33 now), but just a few months ago I have decided to buy a Marseille deck and start reading it.
I am quite interested in the so called historic Tarots, my babies now being the Marseille and a Vieville ones (I have a very cheap cheap and not very nice version of a Marseille deck, and a Vieville reproduction by SIVILIXI editons). 

I am really into reading the cards with a jewish subtext, inserting Talmud and Kabalah conections when I do it.

Also I am starting my MA and my research is about Tarot as a form of intersemiotic translation, relating it to the mystical conditions of language in the works of Walter Benjamin and Gershom Scholem - as well as how this can make Tarot reading something revolutionary, at least in the realm of language and ideas.

[Raggydoll]

Welcome! Great to meet you 😀

[Lady Butterfly]

Hi @Rivka, nice to meet you! Welcome to TT&M!

[Marigold]

Rivka, which version is it this cheap and not very nice version of the TdM you have ?

 

I'd love to hear more about the Talmud connections you make if you feel like sharing one day. This sounds fascinating. Like if you make a special thread about this it would be wonderful.

[katrinka]

7 hours ago, Rivka said:

Hello!
My name's Rivka, and I am a brazilian jewish of mixed origin (ashkenazi /sepharadi). I have been studying tarot for years now - I started when I was about 12 with the Mythic Tarot, when the bookseller woman at my mother's university conviced me to buy it, since I was really into reading about greek myths. I've been reading about Tarot for all of those years (I am 33 now), but just a few months ago I have decided to buy a Marseille deck and start reading it.
I am quite interested in the so called historic Tarots, my babies now being the Marseille and a Vieville ones (I have a very cheap cheap and not very nice version of a Marseille deck, and a Vieville reproduction by SIVILIXI editons). 

I am really into reading the cards with a jewish subtext, inserting Talmud and Kabalah conections when I do it.

Also I am starting my MA and my research is about Tarot as a form of intersemiotic translation, relating it to the mystical conditions of language in the works of Walter Benjamin and Gershom Scholem - as well as how this can make Tarot reading something revolutionary, at least in the realm of language and ideas.

Hi and welcome! This sounds fascinating. The old woodcut decks seem to be intentionally tied to Jewish thought - even the pose of Le Bateleur looks like the Hebrew letter Aleph.

[Rivka]

1 hour ago, Marigold said:

Rivka, which version is it this cheap and not very nice version of the TdM you have ?

 

I'd love to hear more about the Talmud connections you make if you feel like sharing one day. This sounds fascinating. Like if you make a special thread about this it would be wonderful.

Hello and thanks everyone!

 

My version of TdM is one published in Brazil which takes on the Grimaud edition, but with a low printing quality (the nice part? It didn't cost me 10 USD). I am expecting a Jodorowsky-Camoin to arrive via BookDepository (but I guess only in 2020) and I am planning to get a facsimile version of some other TdM, still haven't decided though.

 

About the Talmud: I have just began doing this, but one example is The Wheel of Fortune and session Shabbat 151b: 

 

R. Hiyya said to his wife: When a poor man comes, be quick to offer him bread, so that others may be quick to offer it to your children. You curse them! she exclaimed. A verse is written, he replied: 'because that for [bi-gelal] this thing', whereon the School of R. Ishmael taught: It is a wheel that revolves in the world.

 

And from there I go to the Parashat that relates - that is Parashat Ha'azinu... and so it goes.  I shall make posts for each arcane as I organize my thoughts.

 

34 minutes ago, katrinka said:

Hi and welcome! This sounds fascinating. The old woodcut decks seem to be intentionally tied to Jewish thought - even the pose of Le Bateleur looks like the Hebrew letter Aleph.

 

Yes! This is also something! Though most jewish sources usually try to distance themselves from the Tarot, I believe there is something very very jewish about the cards. 

[Etheldreda]

Welcome Rivka! 😀 I'm sure you'll find a lot of great food for thought here, I've been reading non-stop since yesterday haha...

[LoveLightPeace]

Hi and welcome to TT&M @Rivka! So glad that you decided to join us. Looking forward to seeing you around the forum. 🙂 

[joy]

Hello @Rivka welcome to the TT&M Family

[Rivka]

Thanks for the welcoming me, everyone!