La Sibylle des Salons (Grimaud)

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But are you drawn to one in particular (whether it is technically a sibyl or not)?

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5 hours ago, katrinka said:

A Sibilla type deck has an image/images and a playing card inset. So not the Bohemian decks, Kipper, Jegel, etc.

That is the definition I use, too.

 

Essentially, the Sibilla cards preserve some of the older cartomantic associations for suited cards. The images are an aide memoire.

 

5 hours ago, jaygon said:

German :

Le Petit Lenormand 

Le Grand Jeu de Lenormand 

Sibille (Conrad Jegel)

Le Grand Jeu is not German. It is French.

 

Of the decks that carry Mlle Le Normand’s name, it is this deck that could have an association. It was published after Le Normand’s death and the different sections seem to be modelled on the different cards (minus the tarot) she used in her grand jeu reading.
 

The petit jeu was a smaller and cheaper reading using a piquet deck. 
 

[jaygon]

Yes, I fear that I have been (unintentionally) rather clumsy in my quest for information. 

 

Prior to February, I had only been familiar with the playing card deck and the RWS Tarot deck (Yes! I believed there to have only been one deck at the time!!!!) 

 

Since the spring, I have become fascinated in learning more about all of the various non-tarot divination decks. I have purchased many of the decks on the (above) list and other types of decks such as Kipper, SKAT, Oracle etc etc.

 

I’m very interested in the history, origin, variants and relationship between all of these various decks and systems. (Lenormand/Kipper/Bohemian/Sibilla) 
 

As you will gather from my earlier threads, I had been researching and purchasing some of the various Bohemian decks a few months back. 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, jaygon said:

As you will gather from my earlier threads, I had been researching and purchasing some of the various Bohemian decks a few months back. 

You will not find it too difficult to collect the Bohemian-style cards.

 

For example, Piatnik’s Zigeuner Wahrsagekarten underwent several editions. From memory, one was black and white. 
 

There are also Hungarian and Czech versions of the Zigeuner Wahrsagekarten (and other Bohemian). I know several fortune tellers in Romania and Bosnia and Herzegovina using the Czech edition. 

 

There are also Russian versions. 

An off shot of the Bohemian cards is the Russian Solitaire/Pasyans.