Jump to content

I’ve jumped into the TdM deep-end!


sweeneyish

Recommended Posts

It turns out the Trionfi della Luna was my gateway to jumping into the TdM. I’ve been reading through many of the topics here over the past couple weeks to understand how to read the pip cards better, and that has invariably lead me deeper into learning about the TdM in general. It’s so rich! I just finished Tarot: The Open Reading and I really enjoyed his process and tips for reading the cards.

 

I splurged a little and have some decks coming my way. (Warning: Enabling?) I ordered the CBD Tarot, the Flornoy Noblet, and, the one I might be most excited about, the strange and wonderful Bacchus Tarot (again, following links in the topics here I got to: https://thecartomancer.bigcartel.com/product/vandenborre-aka-flemish-flemand-baccus-tarot-c-1780). Patrick Valenza added many extra cards to the Trionfi based on these (like The Lightning and Bacchus), so I’m especially excited for this one. The first two are arriving shortly; I think a bit of a wait for the last. Oh, and I got a super good deal on restoration of the Besancon Tarot restoration that Patrick Valenza did (because the box is bumped), so that will be coming at some point as well. 

 

@katrinka, I really appreciated the links you posted to the cartomancy tips for reading the numbers and suits. Very helpful! 

 

Anyways, I guess I’m just proclaiming my excitement here, and looking forward to playing with the decks once they come. I’m debating reading the Way of Tarot next or perhaps one of the Camelia Elias books based on reading through threads here. Of course, if anyone has any essential tips,

suggestions, or reads please do let me know! 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yay! Reading with the TdM and other non-scenic decks is really enriching. The Noblet is one of my favourites. I also really like the Budapest and Rosenwald decks. There is so much for you to explore in the older decks. :classic_smile:
 

If you are able to, see if you can watch Tarology with Enrique Enriquez. It’s an interesting approach to reading.
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I second the Tarology recommendation, it’s a great movie to watch for inspiration. As for Camelia, I recommend her thick book (I think it’s just called Marseille tarot). It is, in my opinion, much better than her others. The thinner books had such a condescending attitude towards the querent and I felt it was too little value for the money it cost. But the big book I got more out of!

 

My favorite tdM is the first edition of Pierre de Madenie. It’s the one with the ‘ghost lines’ from previous prints on the cards. The new edition is lovely too, just not as lovely if you are like me and appreciate an atmospheric deck! 😁 These days I have a very small collection of TdM but it’s one that I am very content with 😊

 

6A9AA81D-7828-4FDD-9276-9B7D8BA432DD.thumb.jpeg.0e6823153078180d3154b90762dad577.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Flaxen said:

Yay! Reading with the TdM and other non-scenic decks is really enriching. The Noblet is one of my favourites. I also really like the Budapest and Rosenwald decks. There is so much for you to explore in the older decks. :classic_smile:
 

If you are able to, see if you can watch Tarology with Enrique Enriquez. It’s an interesting approach to reading.
 

Wow, those decks are beautiful! So unique and different. Especially intrigued by the Budapest - it gets my imagination flowing. Thank you for the Tarology recommendation- I’m going to check it out. 

 

3 hours ago, Raggydoll said:

I second the Tarology recommendation, it’s a great movie to watch for inspiration. As for Camelia, I recommend her thick book (I think it’s just called Marseille tarot). It is, in my opinion, much better than her others. The thinner books had such a condescending attitude towards the querent and I felt it was too little value for the money it cost. But the big book I got more out of!

 

My favorite tdM is the first edition of Pierre de Madenie. It’s the one with the ‘ghost lines’ from previous prints on the cards. The new edition is lovely too, just not as lovely if you are like me and appreciate an atmospheric deck! 😁 These days I have a very small collection of TdM but it’s one that I am very content with 😊

 

6A9AA81D-7828-4FDD-9276-9B7D8BA432DD.thumb.jpeg.0e6823153078180d3154b90762dad577.jpeg

 

I think that collection looks perfect! And that Pierre Madenie is beautiful - love the rougher lines, it does give it a very atmospheric look. 

 

And thank you for the info re: Camelia. I was just reading through the big resource thread here and saw the excerpts you posted - yikes! I’m a softie, so that approach definitely doesn’t work for me, either for readings

or for teaching. Glad you gave the heads up! I’m more the unconditional positive regard type when it comes to reading for querents (and myself). 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My first deck arrived in the mail - the Jean Noblet. Wow, it is so striking and beautiful. Definitely just has a really 'right' feeling as I flip through the cards. I'm so looking forward to playing with it tonight. 

 

I haven't started watching Tarology yet, but I was able to buy a copy of a book he wrote that is about 30 pages long (just an e-book) called Looking at the Marseilles Tarot. It is excellent! I think it's a condensed version of some lectures he gave. It's amazing how challenging it is to let go of preconceived notions I have about the cards, even though I don't hold on to those meanings out of any particular desire too - they are just glued in my brain somewhere. Very enlightening so far. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Flaxen said:

Glad you like your Noblet @sweeneyish!

 

Meant to add this recommendation:

Tarot Heritage

 

It’s a great site for deepening your knowledge of the historical decks and has great advice for reading with them. 

 

 

 

This site is amazing - thanks so much for sharing! Great reading tips on here. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@Raggydoll

 

My favorite tdM is the first edition of Pierre de Madenie. 

 

Whimper!

 

I really think, if I could get that deck, I would be set. I would have all the decks I *need*. (Of course I could rationalize getting other decks, for, umm, research purposes... but I might even not!)

 

Anyone got one they could sell? I'm not rich but I have PayPal, a credit card, and no self control.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, BradGad said:

@Raggydoll

 

My favorite tdM is the first edition of Pierre de Madenie. 

 

Whimper!

 

I really think, if I could get that deck, I would be set. I would have all the decks I *need*. (Of course I could rationalize getting other decks, for, umm, research purposes... but I might even not!)

 

Anyone got one they could sell? I'm not rich but I have PayPal, a credit card, and no self control.

There are plenty of other, great looking decks on Yves page, including the second edition of Pierre de Madenie! It doesn't have those 'ghost lines', but its still a really lovely deck. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@Raggydoll or anyone else...

 

I someone could point me to the link where you can actually buy the 2nd ed. Madenie, I would muchly appreciate it.

 

I can see the deck on Yves' site, but can't figure out how to actually purchase it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, BradGad said:

@Raggydoll or anyone else...

 

I someone could point me to the link where you can actually buy the 2nd ed. Madenie, I would muchly appreciate it.

 

I can see the deck on Yves' site, but can't figure out how to actually purchase it.

It looks like the Madenie editions are both out of print. These are the current decks available to buy:
https://www.tarot-de-marseille-heritage.com/boutique/tous-les-tarots-c-9.html?page=1&sort=2a

 

It might be worth contacting Yves to see if there any plans to reprint. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I’m very sorry, I thought the second edition was still for sale! I would contact Yves to hear if he is reprinting. He well might be! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

fire cat pickles

@BradGad I tagged him on the TdM Facebook Page with the question "Yves Reynaud any plans on the Madenie being reprinted?"

 

Yves says:

"Bonjour [FCP] and all,
Pierre Madenié tarot third edition will be published by end January this year 2023.
You will like it for sure.
From Marseille City"
Yves Reynaud

 

 

 

 

Edited by fire cat pickles
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ah, I did find one on eBay... $215. I'll give it a couple days to see if I hear anything back from Heritage TdM. If not, I may spring for it.

 

Or, if anyone here would rather have $215 than their copy of the deck, you could sell it to me. I was thinking I could go up to $200... this is close enough. 

 

Well wait... In my email, I have a notice that @fire cat pickles heard on FB that's they're doing a 3rd edition sometime this month-ish! Though I don't see it here.

 

Oh well... great news for me!

 

Edited by BradGad
Link to comment
Share on other sites

fire cat pickles

@BradGad Yves just announced on Facebook that the Pierre Madenié 1709 third edition will go on sale February 20th.

 

 

Edited by fire cat pickles
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, fire cat pickles said:

@BradGad Yves just announced on Facebook that the Pierre Madenié 1709 third edition will go on sale February 20th.

 

 

Will it be more like the second edition? (No ghost lines ?) 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

fire cat pickles
7 minutes ago, Raggydoll said:

Will it be more like the second edition? (No ghost lines ?) 

He only says it's the third edition, no details. So maybe just like the second edition?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.