katrinka Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Apparently Austin Osman Spare's deck has been rediscovered. HAS ANYONE PRINTED IT YET? ? ? ? ? Feast your eyes on these old images and meanings: https://www.pinterest.com/ragnarofl/aos/ I know there's a a book http://strangeattractor.co.uk/shoppe/lost-envoy/ and of course I'll be wanting that, too - but the deck itself?
Starlight Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Spare's the person who pretty much created sigils for magic, isn't he? I didn't realise he had created a deck as well.
katrinka Posted January 7, 2018 Author Posted January 7, 2018 Yes. And he's referred to as the grandfather of Chaos Magick, too. He did some serious art in his time. https://www.google.com/search?q=austin+osman+spare&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid8OzixcXYAhWOzVMKHUC0CZkQ_AUICigB&biw=1600&bih=718 These cards are something he made for himself to be used, rather than shown in a gallery. No perfectionism, more candid, more pragmatic. And that fascinates the hell out of me.
gregory Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Apparently Austin Osman Spare's deck has been rediscovered. HAS ANYONE PRINTED IT YET? ? ? ? ? Feast your eyes on these old images and meanings: https://www.pinterest.com/ragnarofl/aos/ I know there's a a book http://strangeattractor.co.uk/shoppe/lost-envoy/ and of course I'll be wanting that, too - but the deck itself? Get the book. I have actually considered scanning and printing the cards from it....
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 It looks very, very compelling. Curious as to what the deck really is all about.
katrinka Posted January 7, 2018 Author Posted January 7, 2018 The notations on the cards look wonderfully cartomantic/predictive. Some are slightly different from the way I learned, but that's to be expected, given time and geography. :D
EmpyreanKnight Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 I just want to ask - are the cards really intended as is, or did Spare wish to eventually make more revisions to the cards, dying before he refined his deck? It has an unfinished air about it, or maybe I just have callow taste. :P Also - you've mentioned that the cards may have predictive notations. Knowing who Spare is, can the cards have been designed for ritual/ceremonial use too? This deck has me getting curiouser and curiouser.
katrinka Posted January 10, 2018 Author Posted January 10, 2018 I don't have a clue...I'll let you know when the book arrives!
DejaVoo Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 @katrinka May I ask if you have Osman Spare's book and any way to get a copy of his deck?
katrinka Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 I still want the book, I'm just loathe to part with the hundred bucks. Still, I suppose I could keep it spotless and flip it if necessary. An investment, hmmm... The deck, as far as I'm aware, is not available.
gregory Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) I have the book. Was there a question ? I believe there is a move to get the deck printed; I forget where I saw that. ETA reall posted that someone had told her they were working on it. Edited December 23, 2019 by gregory
DejaVoo Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 @katrinka I hear you on throwing down a hundred bucks on that book...I refuse to do it. But, I was really interested in getting a copy of those cards.
DejaVoo Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 5:07 AM, gregory said: I have the book. Was there a question ? I believe there is a move to get the deck printed; I forget where I saw that. ETA reall posted that someone had told her they were working on it. Yes @gregory I would love to have a copy of those cards and was wondering if a deck has been made but I couldn't find it.
gregory Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) So - ask @reall, who was the one who mentioned it. Edited December 25, 2019 by gregory
Eric13 Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 Something I like about that deck I like. Very different. Unique.
reall Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 2:07 PM, gregory said: I have the book. Was there a question ? I believe there is a move to get the deck printed; I forget where I saw that. ETA reall posted that someone had told her they were working on it. yes, last I hear from official publisher they do plan official deck as well 2020 hopefully?;D best ask them yourself more demand more likely they'll decide to get over with it!xD lol also if you have book it should be (relativly) easy to make your own deck with pod & photoshop?!;D
DejaVoo Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 7 hours ago, reall said: yes, last I hear from official publisher they do plan official deck as well 2020 hopefully?;D best ask them yourself more demand more likely they'll decide to get over with it!xD lol also if you have book it should be (relativly) easy to make your own deck with pod & photoshop?!;D Yes, I thought having the book would definitely be a source to print your own deck 😉
katrinka Posted December 25, 2019 Author Posted December 25, 2019 I'd have to purchase the book AND a scanner to get the deck printed. Snapping photos with my phone wouldn't cut it. And I don't even know if the book has illustrations of ALL the cards, in high res, in color. (gregory?) And so I wait.
katrinka Posted December 25, 2019 Author Posted December 25, 2019 I hope that when/if the deck is published, they print it as is, warts and all. I want pure Spare, not some publisher's reworked, prettied up, neutered and defleaed version.
DejaVoo Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, katrinka said: I hope that when/if the deck is published, they print it as is, warts and all. I want pure Spare, not some publisher's reworked, prettied up, neutered and defleaed version. I agree with you on this! I definitely want it raw ☺️
gregory Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 11 hours ago, katrinka said: I'd have to purchase the book AND a scanner to get the deck printed. Snapping photos with my phone wouldn't cut it. And I don't even know if the book has illustrations of ALL the cards, in high res, in color. (gregory?) And so I wait. I will look later. But as I recall Starlightexpress was working on making a copy that way and said the dimensions make it very very hard - so I assume so. Scanning from a book is a PIA and not good for the book. But I agree - no tarting up.
katrinka Posted December 26, 2019 Author Posted December 26, 2019 Thanks. And yes, I imagine it IS a PIA. Or a PITA. Not the bread kind.
reall Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 2 hours ago, gregory said: I will look later. But as I recall Starlightexpress was working on making a copy that way and said the dimensions make it very very hard - so I assume so. Scanning from a book is a PIA and not good for the book. But I agree - no tarting up. from what i've seen on pinterest it seems there are indeed all cards in the book?;) @gregory may confirm later!^^ lol But imo bc those are hand notes/ sketches it's likely *card size/sketches are all different size & proportions as those were personal study notes & not intended for print by OS personally at least not in that stage!;) wish there was a pod back then!^^ lol Exact reason why it would be hard to fit *standard Tarot size template without tweaking formatting & good old cut/copy/past & reposition resize photoshop And there would be still empty space around borders?;) & We All Know people would not be happy about anything less than *original as is= probably why publisher decided to skip headache (& work !:) & publish book as is!;D imo good camera is better than scanner as it saves your book!;D but it still require lots of work to formatting but hopefully they'll figure it eventually btw I remember offering help with *design solutions but no one take me seriously!^^ lol
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