Playing cards vs tarot

[Blondewitch]

In my opinion you can have more discretion when you read playing cards but the level of accuracy is inferior to tarot 

[DanielJUK]

@Blondewitch After we have done an introduction thread, we move starting our discussion threads out of the Introductions area because some members only read some areas of the forum and sections. So it's worth thinking of the best section to post in when you start a thread (and it's easy for us to move the thread if it's wrong, it's no problem). You can see an index of the forum on the "Forums" tab.

 

I have moved this thread to the Playing Cards area of the forum under Cartomancy, I think it fits best there 🙂 . I can move it to the general tarot discussion area if you prefer, it can go in either.

[gregory]

What exactly do you mean by "discretion" - it doesn't seem to fit here:

 

Discretion: noun:

1. the quality of behaving or speaking in such a way as to avoid causing offence or revealing confidential information. - "she knew she could rely on his discretion"

2. the freedom to decide what should be done in a particular situation - "local authorities should use their discretion in setting the charges"

 

I don't know how to comment here as I don't know what the question means.

[fire cat pickles]

I think she means you can be discrete with playing cards? If you have some playing cards out on a table you could be playing Canasta or something when you're out in public, for example. People won't necessarily know you're doing a reading with cards. If you whip out a tarot deck there's no question. 

 

 

Edited February 17, 2023 by fire cat pickles

[Mister]

Honestly, the "vs" irks me.

The "level of accuracy"-thingy, too.

It comes down to training/experience.

 

And, as much as it stays forgotten: Tarots are packs of playing cards.

However you look at it. Oracles are, too.

Instead of playing a game of chance, you take your chance to play a game of fate, or somesuch.

Also, having some playfulness in the handling of your cards beats Mr. Serious AF by lengths.

 

Discrete, it may be - then again, in modern times, wherever you lay out cards on a table (try playing a round of Bohnanza! at a local cafe) will get you some attention.

So, yeah.

I guess I better be some silent now.

😎

[Raggydoll]

32 minutes ago, fire cat pickles said:

I think she means you can be discrete with playing cards? If you have some playing cards out on a table you could be playing Canasta or something when you're out in public, for example. People won't necessarily know you're doing a reading with cards. If you whip out a tarot deck there's no question. 

 

 

I was, like Gregory, a little confused as to what she meant, but yes you are right that this will be it. It also reminds me of when I first starred out with divination. I couldn’t get hold of tarot cards so I used my grandfather’s old set of playing cards. I thought that I would get away with it, but I had many of the older generation quickly catching on, exclaiming “seeing the future in those cards, are you?!”. I think they probably guessed that someone my age (I was 12) wasn’t into solitaire 😁 But these days, maybe I would ‘get away with it’ more easily with playing cards rather than tarot cards. Who knows 🙂 

[Raggydoll]

17 minutes ago, Mister said:

 

The "level of accuracy"-thingy, too.

It comes down to training/experience.

 

Indeed! 

17 minutes ago, Mister said:

 

And, as much as it stays forgotten: Tarots are packs of playing cards.

However you look at it. Oracles are, too.

 

Yup

 

[gregory]

1 hour ago, fire cat pickles said:

I think she means you can be discrete with playing cards? If you have some playing cards out on a table you could be playing Canasta or something when you're out in public, for example. People won't necessarily know you're doing a reading with cards. If you whip out a tarot deck there's no question. 

 

I assume, then, that you mean discreet.  In which case the question has lost all interest for me - it's not actually any kind of comparison ! Just about whether you are OK with people seeing you are reading cards - which is all very much up to you.

 

 

1 hour ago, Mister said:

Honestly, the "vs" irks me.

The "level of accuracy"-thingy, too.

It comes down to training/experience.

 

And, as much as it stays forgotten: Tarots are packs of playing cards.

However you look at it. Oracles are, too.

Instead of playing a game of chance, you take your chance to play a game of fate, or somesuch.

Also, having some playfulness in the handling of your cards beats Mr. Serious AF by lengths.

 

I don't much like "vs" questions; it suggests conflict. And accuracy is in the eye of the beholder - so often we have no idea what dewgree of "accuracy" we achieved till much later - and even if "accuracy" meant to us what it mean to our sitters.

[fire cat pickles]

6 minutes ago, gregory said:

I assume, then, that you mean discreet.

I will always misspell this word thanks to the Frank Zappa record label. It ruined me.

[fire cat pickles]

18 minutes ago, gregory said:

I don't much like "vs" questions; it suggests conflict. And accuracy is in the eye of the beholder - so often we have no idea what dewgree of "accuracy" we achieved till much later - and even if "accuracy" meant to us what it mean to our sitters.

There is no "test" for accuracy anyway, so how can one say one is more accurate than the other?

[gregory]

What people seem to mean is when the sitter says "Oh wow that's EXACTLY what happened" or "That totally makes sense." I very much agree with you, and I never "assess my readings for accuracy" as some seem to. It's enough if they say that resonates, or that gives me food for thought. (It does sadden me when someone says it makes no sense to them; I always hope it will become relevant later as things pan out !)

[Mister]

11 minutes ago, fire cat pickles said:

I will always misspell this word

Me, too.

Not due to Frank Zappa, so maybe there is still hope.

 

@gregory

'Accuracy', as I see it, which is my personal take on it only, is first and foremost that you yourself have a somewhat clear idea what it is your cards want to tell - "to know their mode of speech", so to say.

The next one comes into play when predicting, but that need not be discussed.

Some do. Some don't.

Some stuff happens, some does not.

From looking at what has transpired after you read you can indeed "up your accuracy" to a degree, which in practice comes down to having a clearer grip - again - on what it is the cards want to tell you.

 

Like @fire cat pickles recently mentioned 'epiphany'.

I bet if it pops up in a read about how a relationship will develop, it is likely that the aforementioned person will be on their toes.

[akiva]

My playing cards wouldnt be so discreet, I've written divinatory meanings all over them. 😂

They aren't any less accurate, in my experience they do have a different "voice". It could be down to reading style/divinatory meanings etc. 

 

1 hour ago, Mister said:

And, as much as it stays forgotten: Tarots are packs of playing cards.

It's probably forgotten because tarot decks have diverged in modern times to a point they're almost unrecognisable as related. 

[Mister]

21 minutes ago, akiva said:

It's probably forgotten because tarot decks have diverged in modern times to a point they're almost unrecognisable as related.

Yeah, likely.

 

Plus: A horde of dudes and dudettes who insist that what they do is anything but daily grindish.

Playing cards pretty much are an everyday-item. (now wait, this is grammar-conform, isn't it?)

The Tarot must be something else, then.

To fulfill its purpose for some random marketing-strategy at least, apparently.

Well.

They sell best if they are made by some sort of magician with some sort of reputation (invented or not), preferably dead.

 

Wait again, aren't we way off topic by now?

Or should we just equip "Tarots" and "Playing Cards" with some rpg-like stats and roll a D12 to solve the "vs" in question?

🧐

[akiva]

@Mister I think it's related because the OP suggested there's a difference between tarot and playing cards and that there's a difference in accuracy. It can be helpful to understand the origins of these decks and how they've seperated into their own tangents in recent times.

 

28 minutes ago, Mister said:

They sell best if they are made by some sort of magician with some sort of reputation (invented or not), preferably dead.

This is nothing new, attributing Egypt to the tarot, Lenormand in Germany, France and Britain, Madame Recamier and Catherine in Russia, there's probably more world wide. It's a sales tactic that works though. We love mystery and the unknown! They're always dead so they can't sue for copyright 😂

 

35 minutes ago, Mister said:

Wait again, aren't we way off topic by now?

Or should we just equip "Tarots" and "Playing Cards" with some rpg-like stats and roll a D12 to solve the "vs" in question?

🧐

Modern tarots would have to take an instant hit to dexterity due to their unwieldy size 😂 But plus 10 to arcane 🧙‍♂️

[Blondewitch]

Well this is my 3rd post and I have two more until I will manage answer to all of you 

-accuracy is a matter of practicing I agree 

-I can read playing cards in the train for example but not tarot, cause every passenger would ask if I am a witch😂

-right,it sounds strange playing cards vs tarot 

-i didn’t put a question just a thought😊

[gregory]

Ah - so it was a matter of feeling OK in public.  I do know people who have written the card names on a blank deck.... If you want to read somewhere you don't want people to see tarot cards - that would be one option.

[Mister]

Alright, @Blondewitch

 

One more post and there you go, you should be at 5 then.

 

52 minutes ago, Blondewitch said:

-I can read playing cards in the train for example but not tarot, cause every passenger would ask if I am a witch😂

Where do you operate?

The Country is enough.

 

I did read Tarots in a train in germany.

Nobody bothered asking, hence the question.

 

2 hours ago, akiva said:

Modern tarots would have to take an instant hit to dexterity due to their unwieldy size 😂 But plus 10 to arcane 🧙‍♂️

🤣🤣🤣

2 hours ago, akiva said:

They're always dead so they can't sue for copyright

😂

[DanielJUK]

Just wanted to say that no member needs to reveal their country if they don't want to 🙂 Privacy and anonymity are very important to some members

 

Someone needs to make tarot cards with playing card backs, so we can do readings and just turn them over to look like we are playing card games 🤣

[Raggydoll]

I’ve read tarot on a bus and on a train, no one has ever asked me anything. I did once notice a young girl looking at me with great interest, but that was about it. I guess it depends on your location (that’s just a statement, I’m not asking you where you live!). 

[fire cat pickles]

I'm in the American South and there's NO WAY I could read tarot in public. I could discretely read playing cards though. 

[akiva]

UK here, and way too shy to read cards in public. I think the general public wouldn't really care. I saw a guy on the bus completely topless mid winter and no one looked at him twice 😂

 

49 minutes ago, DanielJUK said:

Someone needs to make tarot cards with playing card backs, so we can do readings and just turn them over to look like we are playing card games 🤣

You could print off copyright free tarot images and stick them to Waddingtons cards, they have nice backs and they're so cheap 😁

[gregory]

52 minutes ago, fire cat pickles said:

I'm in the American South and there's NO WAY I could read tarot in public. I could discretely read playing cards though. 

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, akiva said:

UK here, and way too shy to read cards in public. I think the general public wouldn't really care. I saw a guy on the bus completely topless mid winter and no one looked at him twice 😂

 

You could print off copyright free tarot images and stick them to Waddingtons cards, they have nice backs and they're so cheap 😁

 

Or - as I said - just write the card titles on blanks.

 

I've read in a pub - spread it all on a table. Nobody even LOOKED. They were far more interested in their beer.

Edited February 17, 2023 by gregory

[Mister]

1 hour ago, DanielJUK said:

Just wanted to say that no member needs to reveal their country if they don't want to 🙂 Privacy and anonymity are very important to some members

 

Should have added that one myself.

I am sorry.

 

I belong to those P&A-valuers.

Country is the max of what I am willing to reveal.

 

1 hour ago, fire cat pickles said:

I'm in the American South and there's NO WAY I could read tarot in public.

Wow.

They'd pull you to the gallows?

Is it just Tarot, or, like in @Nemia 's case, divination in general?

Edited February 17, 2023 by Mister

[akiva]

4 minutes ago, gregory said:

Or - as I said - just write the card titles on blanks.

I would miss the images personally, but that would work too. I've always wanted to take a paint pen to playing cards and draw a lenormandy like deck.

 

7 minutes ago, gregory said:

I've read in a pub - spread it all on a table. Nobody even LOOKED. They were far more interested in their beer.

If I still lived in a city I'd be more confident at attempting that. In the small rural town I live in now, definitely not! You cough too loud in a pub and they all turn to stare at you.