BriarRose Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 Yes! You read that correctly as in the metal Lead. Tamera Rubin from her fb group and web page as shown that some (all?) metal Tibetan Singing Bowls are made with several metals, including lead. Thats probably why some have weight to them, while a larger bowl does not have that much weight. I just found this out, and I'm not smiling. The Lead does absorb into our body and it does get digested out. I have read a lot about this. Is anyone aware of this? I'm not looking for comments like one more thing to worry about, or if it matters. Of course it matters. You matter. I matter.
stephanelli Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 4 hours ago, BriarRose said: Yes! You read that correctly as in the metal Lead. Tamera Rubin from her fb group and web page as shown that some (all?) metal Tibetan Singing Bowls are made with several metals, including lead. Thats probably why some have weight to them, while a larger bowl does not have that much weight. I just found this out, and I'm not smiling. The Lead does absorb into our body and it does get digested out. I have read a lot about this. Is anyone aware of this? I'm not looking for comments like one more thing to worry about, or if it matters. Of course it matters. You matter. I matter. There was a belief at one time that singing bowls needed to be made with seven metals that corresponded to the seven 'planets' known at the time - Iron (Mars), Copper (Venus), Tin (Jupiter), Gold (Sun), Silver (Moon), Mercury (Mercury), and Lead (Saturn) - because the resulting alloy would best promote healing for those using it. My (admittedly limited) research had led me to understand that this was not actually generally the case and was more likely whatever the maker was able to get their hands on. (Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong there.) I think it's important with all old metal objects to be aware that lead was commonly used in olden days and it's therefore worth doing research and even getting an object tested if you are concerned. I've not seen the Facebook group or website you're referring to, but some things to bear in mind: - It may also be the case that the last has got into the bowl as an impurity in one of the metals they were actually using rather than being included intentionally. - Also consider how accurate was the testing method? Was it conducted by a scientist with knowledge in identifying metals, and are the results repeatable by other scientists? My ultimate advice is that if you're in doubt of the safety of the bowl you're using, stop using it and dispose of it sensibly.
DanielJUK Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 I am not sure it's a fact they are all made of lead. They are made of alloys of metal mixes, like most musical instruments. The beautiful antique Tibetan ones are made of Bronze (same as antique bells), this is made mostly of Copper and Tin. But they are expensive now. Most of the modern affordable ones are brass (copper and zinc) and some all copper or crystal. It's possible some have lead in the mix in tiny amounts but they are not marked as a risk to health or have warnings. I had a look at a spiritual shop selling them and they were all marked as not containing lead and were brass. I would watch out for the really cheap ones without a clear country of manufacture, possible lead levels could be larger and I would have thought wouldn't have such a lovely tone to them. I haven't read of a single case of someone with lead poisoning from a singing bowl, but if you suspect a singing bowl has lead, I wouldn't drink out of it 🙂
gregory Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 I can't see it as likely that lead from simply handling a singing bowl with a little lead in it would be absorbed in any significant amount. Drinking out of one might be risky - but that isn't something one does. (I have an antique one; it has some weight and I believe it is mostly silver. I'm not dead yet,)
Raggydoll Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 It’s true that singing bowls were traditionally made with the seven metals that @stephanelli listed. However, after mercury and lead was discovered to be toxic, they were no longer included. So modern singing bowls are not supposed to contain toxic heavy metals. Btw. Are you talking about organic or inorganic lead? (And no, I am not going to go read on Facebook or look up someone’s homepage to find out, I always stick to scientific resources. So if you want us to discuss this, do be specific).
BriarRose Posted April 6, 2023 Author Posted April 6, 2023 Thank you all for your reply. Yes, it's still concerns me very much. I have to learn how to resize pictures again so I can post the information. You can find that on the fb group Lead Poisoning Prevention with Lead Safe Mama. Or tamararubin.com Her testing instrument is a $50,000 one that she bought. It's 100% reliable and factual. Tamera Rubin has forced many companies to change their ways or list the truth. Us minions can purchase 3M Lead testing swab kits at Home Depot. And yes, just a little amount is detrimental to our health. And no, doctors don't care! Many babies and little children are being misdiagnosed with learning disabilities or other afflictions that are not true! They are being treated with medications that do not truly help. Adults too. And then they finally get a lead levels blood test and WA La- Lead poisoning. Most people are unaware they might have high levels of Lead. I have to re-read her article to understand if the Lead was at the core of the singing bowls. I'm not a person that uses shock statements for attention (just so you know). I'm not one to stir up the pot either. I'm the messenger. It's in my soul. And usually I don't say much anymore, but I felt I might be able to have some trust here with everyone. Right? We can all take guesses on how we think Lead us about. But I'm reading the facts from Tamera Rubin. We can trust her. Rare, right? I mean , who spends that amount of money on a testing gadget? You all would be amazed at how poisoned we are and the effects we live with. I'm just surprised that since we now know, why would companies still continue to make items with lead!?! 😊😊😊And, I feel that opening our minds and bodies ( think of breath works as one example or reading the cards) it would be beneficial to eat clean, use chemical free products and be aware of what is in the items we have in our homes.😊😊😊
Rupicapra Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) If you read the article, the author only recommends washing your hands after use and don't let your kids play with it. That's all. 6 hours ago, Raggydoll said: organic or inorganic lead? Organic lead has been mainly used in petrol/gasoline, but banned since the 80s, it is harmful to health. it should not be a compound in metal alloys. Lead poisoning comes mainly from indigestion or inhalation of fumes, normal lead like in ceramic glazing or singing bowls should not be able to be absorbed through the skin. https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/leadtoxicity/exposure_routes.html 7 hours ago, gregory said: Drinking out of one might be risky - but that isn't something one does Exactly. No need to chuck out all your lovely singing bowls 🙂 Edited April 6, 2023 by Rupicapra
Raggydoll Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, Rupicapra said: Organic lead has been mainly used in petrol/gasoline, but banned since the 80s, it is harmful to health. it should not be a compound in metal alloys. Lead poisoning comes mainly from indigestion or inhalation of fumes, normal lead like in ceramic glazing or singing bowls should not be able to be absorbed through the skin. https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/leadtoxicity/exposure_routes.html Yes. That was my point 😊
Tarot_Apprentice Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/5/2023 at 2:48 PM, BriarRose said: Yes! You read that correctly as in the metal Lead… Thank you for this, BriarRose. I’ve been consider making this my next purchase. Definitely taking this under advisement. Take care and keep safe! Tarot_Apprentice
gregory Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 I really don't think there is anything to worry about. Facebook isn't that reliable as a source of information.
BriarRose Posted April 7, 2023 Author Posted April 7, 2023 Tamara Rubin is very reliable. I trust her. I do have metal singing bowls. The smallest one is a bit heavy for its size. And 10 inch one is very light. I do have crystal bowls. And the break. That's very expensive to replace .
peacewing Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) You can get lead test sticks for about $12 USD at Amazon and hardware stores... Good for old kitchenware too Edit: there are also many stores that specifically advertise lead free too Edited April 7, 2023 by peacewing
BriarRose Posted April 7, 2023 Author Posted April 7, 2023 It's not only old kitchenware, and bakeware, it's the new ones as well. And when labeled lead free, it has not always been true.
gregory Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 11 hours ago, BriarRose said: Tamara Rubin is very reliable. I trust her. Leaving aside this issue - which does not bother me at all - I don't trust her one bit. A questionable woman at best. https://www.portlandtribune.com/news/eastside-portland-air-coalition-7-000-in-donations-entrusted-to-tamara-rubin-is-missing/article_3aba2a3d-f8b2-5a30-9cca-03ca314eff68.html
BriarRose Posted April 18, 2023 Author Posted April 18, 2023 I thought about this a lot. And I would not trust anything to read on line. Tamara Rubin has only improved the health and well being of a few thousand children being unnessarly drugged up on ADHA drugs when in fact they had heavy metal poisoning. Taking huge corporations to court is a life risk. And anyone will write anything for anyone if the money or notoriety is right for them. I personally can spot a charlatan. But Tamara? I just don't see her that way. She posts pictures of the home she lives in. And if she was out for personal gain she would not have a house like that! I've seen a lot of charlatans and where they live. Tamara doesn't fit that mold. Without her many children would be suffering. And adults too.
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