Suits and their Elements… thoughts on different approaches?

[Misterei]

10 hours ago, akiva said:

I'm not familiar with Crowley's system, are you meaning how he and the GD applied decans to every card?

Not the decans thing ... more specific.  I'll give an example. Crowley sees 3 Swords as Saturn in Libra. This to me is very specific and very limiting. For example I read 3 swords as heartbreak. Yet Saturn is exalted in Libra ... so to my way of thinking Crowley has put a "positive" asterism onto a "negative" card. Now he might be thinking that Saturn as the great malefic ... being exalted just makes it worse ... I dunno ... Vedic astrology will say Saturn does some good when its exalted.

10 hours ago, akiva said:

It seems like the divine spark/fire would be Ether? The all encompassing element. It's always there, while also not being there, ever present while also ever the mystery!

Akash (ether) is space. It's the space where the other 4 elements reside ... the divine spark would be above that, too. A piece of the solar logos or god or whatnot. Whatever, MADE Ether/Akash ... };>

Edited May 13, 2023 by Misterei

[DanielJUK]

There's a nice reference thread @Rose Lalonde made us in the past with all the dignitaries on....

 

 

[akiva]

1 hour ago, Misterei said:

Not the decans thing ... more specific.  I'll give an example. Crowley sees 3 Swords as Saturn in Libra. This to me is very specific and very limiting. For example I read 3 swords as heartbreak. Yet Saturn is exalted in Libra ... so to my way of thinking Crowley has put a "positive" asterism onto a "negative" card. Now he might be thinking that Saturn as the great malefic ... being exalted just makes it worse ... I dunno ... Vedic astrology will say Saturn does some good when its exalted.

The little I know of traditional western astrology, exaltation is kind of like exaggeration of a planets qualities I think? So maybe crowleys view point is Saturn being exaggerated in Libra? I'm probably incredibly wrong though 😂

2 hours ago, Misterei said:

Akash (ether) is space. It's the space where the other 4 elements reside ... the divine spark would be above that, too. A piece of the solar logos or god or whatnot. Whatever, MADE Ether/Akash ... };>

That makes more sense, I think I've seen that referenced as a 'soul seed' before, kind of like the piece from source that's inside all of us.

[Mikhalia]

1 hour ago, DanielJUK said:

There's a nice reference thread @Rose Lalonde made us in the past with all the dignitaries on....

 

I have read that thread, it has a lot of useful information in it!