Jimjam Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Hello all.... I was recently curious about the Tower and wanted to understand the intensity of this card. Do you associated it with the 'good' sometimes? Or is it just bad most of the of the times? What has your biggest Tower moment been?
November Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Hello, I think it can be both "good" and "bad". For what concerns "bad" this card was literally shouting at me to leave a toxic relationship, I couldn't ignore the terrible situation anymore. As "good" instead it was telling me it was time to acknowledge my feelings for my current boyfriend, although this would mean changing my life completely.
DanielJUK Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 I've had it come up in readings for other people for amazing sex and also for someone who conceived when they said her chances of success were very low. I think many people fear this card as it usually forces major change and we are mostly resistant to that as humans. It also tends to be destructive and shocking. I don't want to water it down, it can be horrible but I think long term, it puts you in a better place. It sort of fixes your foundations not being secure and moves you to a healthier foundation long-term. I also think it reminds us that nothing is certain, everything can change, almost everything is temporary. I remember on our old tarot forum that in 2017 they announced it was closing, the forum would be an archive. This was deeply shocking, a community ending and we had 30 days to save everything. Someone started a thread analysing and in many readings posted in the 4 weeks before the announcement, The Tower was appearing all over the place! So there was a sign it was going to happen with the Tower appearing everywhere and it was a Tower moment. New communities sprung out of it, like this one. Also I kept in touch with so many people from there, on this forum and just by email / social networks. So actually the change had to happen one day and I found a new tarot home and kept in touch with way more friends from there than I expected to. Some years ago, I had the Hanged Man as a tarot year card, that was the worst year, I was stuck in position all year! Then I had a tower moment, honestly I would rather be shaken up than trapped in stagnation. The Tower reminds us that things are constantly changing and it will force change! The change from The Tower reveals the problems, the negative areas of our life, the cracks and unsafe foundations and buildings, ultimately it puts us in a better place.
Jimjam Posted December 27, 2023 Author Posted December 27, 2023 @DanielJUK Wow that is super interesting. Apart from the tower, it makes me wonder if tarot can predict man made or natural disasters. For example if there was a war on a particular country, it would only make sense that all people in that country got destruction cards in their readings right?
Jimjam Posted December 27, 2023 Author Posted December 27, 2023 @November I feel like the outcome of Tower is always good for the long run but not a comfortable one. I feel like thats the jist of the card, 'an uncomfortable change'
DanielJUK Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 55 minutes ago, Jimjam said: @DanielJUK Wow that is super interesting. Apart from the tower, it makes me wonder if tarot can predict man made or natural disasters. For example if there was a war on a particular country, it would only make sense that all people in that country got destruction cards in their readings right? The problem is that I think every card can portray a different type of disaster or negative event in context. Also a Tower change in a country could reflect a regular change of power of govt or a monarch, so it's not always easy to see it as a prediction. Predictive reading is a real interest of mine but seeing it happen before it happens is very tricky. In my own readings, I usually see it with hindsight and the Tower in the community context was only obvious afterwards. Many people had posted in the 6 weeks before that Tower came up in their reading and it didn't really make sense, so there were signs coming up and no one saw it till after. In the order of majors, the next card after the Tower, is the Star, some peace and hope follows it 🙂 .
Misterei Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) In classical GD tarot philosophy, Tower relates to Mars, the warrior planet. In Thoth deck, Tower is renamed "War". I use Vedic Astrology and associate Tower with Ketu [Cauda Draconis / south node of the moon] Ketu is fiery and considered a higher octave of Mars energy. Its karakas are liberation, disruption, sudden upheavals, unexpected changes, revolution, holy madmen, chaos, headless, heedless, mystical, loss of reason Ketu is malefic and dreaded for its disruptive effects on earthly life. Yet it wants to spiritualize us. It disrupts earthly life to make us look beyond. Ketu is a shadow planet. The lightning in Tower card may illuminate a shadow or some hidden aspect of the psyche in a flash of insight. Ketu started its transit of my H4 [home and vehicles] 30 October ... since then I moved house [suddenly], my domestic partner is moving to another state [unexpectedly], and my car died [unexpectedly & suddenly]. Thank you Ketu. For many people this is Tower experience For me, it's just another day. Sudden radical changes are normal in my life. Tarot tends to serve me Tower whenever I do demolition, repairs, or renovation on my home. Anti climactic, I know. For me, personally, Tower is a home repair card. Tarot has its own sense of humor and its own private language for every reader. I don't read it this way for clients, though. For clients it usually has the more classical meanings. Edited December 30, 2023 by Misterei
Jimjam Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 @Misterei Ketu is South node right?? And Rahu is north? How do I check in my chart if ketu will affect me anytime soon?
Eugenie Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 15 hours ago, Misterei said: ... Tarot tends to serve me Tower whenever I do demolition, repairs, or renovation on my home. Anti climactic, I know. For me, personally, Tower is a home repair card. Tarot has its own sense of humor and its own private language for every reader. Oh, I hope my today's reversed Tower means renovation of my chicken house! I really need to make my chickens more comfortable. Of course I am joking but not quite.
Misterei Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) deleted. off topic. Edited December 30, 2023 by Misterei
Misterei Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Eugenie said: ...I hope my today's reversed Tower means renovation of my chicken house! I really need to make my chickens more comfortable. Of course I am joking but not quite. Well ... in my spreads Tower would definitely mean renovating the chicken house 😇
Misterei Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 @Eugenie I dont read reversals ... but if I did I would say that Tower R means you'll be able to salvage and re-purpose more of the original chicken house than you thought. Let me know 😉
Jimjam Posted December 28, 2023 Author Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) @Misterei Thats super interesting. My virgo is also in the 4th house with mercury...what does that mean? And in what phase of life does that affect you? Edited December 28, 2023 by Jimjam
Misterei Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) deleted. off topic. Edited December 30, 2023 by Misterei
DanielJUK Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 Could we move back to the topic in hand which is everyone's biggest Tower moments in their life, positive and negative experiences welcome 🙂
Barleywine Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 After using them for decades, I've found that the Major Arcana are usually more about "setting the stage" or establishing the backdrop, environment or atmosphere for events rather than actually triggering them. (I look to the associated court cards and minor cards for the "jump-start.") So I don't often have Tower moments. The last time was several years ago when I pulled the Tower three days in a row from three different decks during daily draws. On all three days I experienced a minor upset or irritation, but nothing really traumatic. (I tend to prefer Alejandro Jodorowsky's idea that the Tower represents a sudden realization or epiphany, like a "bolt from the blue," as well as a "liberation.")
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