Spiritual Journey’s..

[moni]

Hi Fellow Journeyers,

 

If I’m being honest, it seems like I have been on a Spiritual Journey since I can remember. Ever since I was little I have been interested.. Absolutely everything you can think of bought me back to this realm, and here I am today again. Now as an adult when I reflect on everything up until this point, I feel it was something that was very innate to me - I’m still on my journey and have A LOT to learn, but I also recognise, I’ve learnt a lot on this journey too.

 

I’m just really intrigued to see what others experiences are. How did others’ journeys’ begin? Has it always felt innate to you? Did you move away from it and come back to it? Has it followed your every move..? I’ve always felt a powerful pull and like it was really meant for me. There are tonnes of people out there that don’t like this way of living - don’t get me wrong, each to their own, and that’s completely fine, but I just find that Spirituality for me is such a beautiful thing - we can learn so much from ourselves and each-other during the journey..

 

Interested in hearing thoughts and experiences if anyone is willing to share..

[DanielJUK]

I can't say I am an expert at this because I am just bumbling along. For me, it's about being attracted to and going with what interests you. The starting point for me is that something interests me spiritually, so I go to learn about it and really read up on it. There is also something about spiritual journeys that they should be helpful to you, like they might help you explore yourself or give you peace and hope in this hectic world. It might be finding a religion or getting stronger in your religion, or it might not be about that.

 

Overall my spiritual journey is extremely messy I've gone in a totally different direction about every ten years.

 

As adults we can do what we want and so go with the things that call to you and spend time exploring them. There isn't one defined spirituality or rules on it, it's about finding what works for you and is about exploration in a way.

[Misterei]

1 hour ago, moni said:

Hi Fellow Journeyers,

..., it seems like I have been on a Spiritual Journey since I can remember. Ever since I was little ... as an adult when I reflect on everything up until this point, I feel it was something that was very innate to me ...

My experience is similar. I've been interested in religion, spirituality, occult and philosophy since childhood. And it's remained throughout my life as a central theme.

 

I tend to look at astrology. The natal chart usually reveals tendencies or gifts in this direction. The natal chart can also reveal past lives [if you believe in this] that had similar themes [i.e. development of spiritual knowledge and practices]. For example, Ketu--the south node-- can show past life knowledge brought forward into the present life. I have Ketu in Sagittarius which shows past life knowledge of religion and philosophy carried into this life. This is an over-simplification but often these themes and tendencies appear in the natal chart.

Edited November 30 by Misterei

[moni]

8 hours ago, DanielJUK said:

I can't say I am an expert at this because I am just bumbling along. For me, it's about being attracted to and going with what interests you. The starting point for me is that something interests me spiritually, so I go to learn about it and really read up on it. There is also something about spiritual journeys that they should be helpful to you, like they might help you explore yourself or give you peace and hope in this hectic world. It might be finding a religion or getting stronger in your religion, or it might not be about that.

 

Overall my spiritual journey is extremely messy I've gone in a totally different direction about every ten years.

 

As adults we can do what we want and so go with the things that call to you and spend time exploring them. There isn't one defined spirituality or rules on it, it's about finding what works for you and is about exploration in a way.

That’s super interesting actually. I totally get that actually, it makes a lot of sense. You mentioned “messy” at one point and it made me laugh because I have had those moments. I grew up in a housewhold where, Mum was from one religious background and Dad from another, I attended both places of worship as a child, but not by force - they were very careful with that I feel. It was always an option. As I grew, I started to notice I liked the morals and values associated but I kept floating back to Spiritual practices..

 

I can also agree that Spiritual journeys should be helpful.. I have honestly learnt a lot - I’m still learning and can say that experience will definitely be life-long.. 

 

Thank you so much for sharing, I hope you continue to enjoy your journey!

[moni]

7 hours ago, Misterei said:

My experience is similar. I've been interested in religion, spirituality, occult and philosophy since childhood. And it's remained throughout my life as a central theme.

 

I tend to look at astrology. The natal chart usually reveals tendencies or gifts in this direction. The natal chart can also reveal past lives [if you believe in this] that had similar themes [i.e. development of spiritual knowledge and practices]. For example, Ketu--the south node-- can show past life knowledge brought forward into the present life. I have Ketu in Sagittarius which shows past life knowledge of religion and philosophy carried into this life. This is an over-simplification but often these themes and tendencies appear in the natal chart.

 

Wow.. Thank you so much for that Misterei.. I feel like you just opened up something else to me again. When I was younger, there was a few years where I couldn’t leave astrology alone, but I was very young and I didn’t necessarily explore it in a way where I was able to learn lots.

 

Natal charts are so interesting for me, and I used to love reading through them to help me learn about certain aspects of myself. I find what you say quite valuable actually and I feel it’s prompting me to look back into it now at my current age - I feel I will understand some things very differently now to what I did back then.

 

Your input is most valuable - thank you for that. 

[DanielJUK]

1 hour ago, moni said:

That’s super interesting actually. I totally get that actually, it makes a lot of sense. You mentioned “messy” at one point and it made me laugh because I have had those moments. I grew up in a housewhold where, Mum was from one religious background and Dad from another, I attended both places of worship as a child, but not by force - they were very careful with that I feel. It was always an option. As I grew, I started to notice I liked the morals and values associated but I kept floating back to Spiritual practices..

 

I can also agree that Spiritual journeys should be helpful.. I have honestly learnt a lot - I’m still learning and can say that experience will definitely be life-long.. 

 

Thank you so much for sharing, I hope you continue to enjoy your journey!

 

Oh I love you got experience of both places.

When I was growing up, I was very religious, more than my parents who were very open-minded but less church attending than I was. In my teens I started to question this place of worship which I put a lot of time into. I felt the community was quite hypocritical and some of the people were really not pleasant. I had questions and no one could answer them. So in my early 20's I became really atheist and believed in nothing. In my 30's I came back to tarot which I had started being interested in in my teens. Tarot really brought my spirituality back, believing in things which were not there that I could not explain.

 

The best thing for me was to be really open-minded and see where it takes you. Also it has to fulfil you and fill part of your life, both my early religious experiences and the atheist period didn't! But we are all different and different things work for us. Being open to where it takes me has really been the more fulfilling and it's been surprising to me and healing.

[Chardxul]

I was reading about you guys and your experience with church. My spiritual awakening with phenomena actually started completely Abrahamic. I realized that in one of my posts I should have made that more clear, I didn’t mean to mislead anyone. But it’s practically all the same to me these days because I no longer devote myself to anyone anymore. I do what I can to devote myself to love. And I do what I can to respect everyone. I’m just not into religion anymore, unless it’s my own that I created from scratch. However, I still experience Jesus and other religious figures. The point is that what I prayed for as a Christian and later as a Luciferian (the righteous versions) then later getting into Paganism is to not have anyone from those spiritualities, nor any power against me and have all of those phenomena on my side. I’m literally experiencing it now. But, there are just too many points from each religion that I don’t agree with and that have been disproven as well… But spirituality is very real, as it involves physical reality manipulation - which can’t be denied. I have experienced this in different ways, more commonly in the form of… is extreme the right word? Extreme signs… Meaning basically getting my whole world completely overwhelmed with signs everywhere I looked. It was wild. But, all spiritual beings can cause those signs, not just “God.” And, since we are on the topic, we know from experience that Tarot is an example of a physical display of spirituality. But, from my experience, it isn’t mandatory to choose a side and it’s not mandatory to subscribe to a religion. Thank goodness!

Edited November 30 by Chardxul

[moni]

1 hour ago, DanielJUK said:

 

Oh I love you got experience of both places.

When I was growing up, I was very religious, more than my parents who were very open-minded but less church attending than I was. In my teens I started to question this place of worship which I put a lot of time into. I felt the community was quite hypocritical and some of the people were really not pleasant. I had questions and no one could answer them. So in my early 20's I became really atheist and believed in nothing. In my 30's I came back to tarot which I had started being interested in in my teens. Tarot really brought my spirituality back, believing in things which were not there that I could not explain.

 

The best thing for me was to be really open-minded and see where it takes you. Also it has to fulfil you and fill part of your life, both my early religious experiences and the atheist period didn't! But we are all different and different things work for us. Being open to where it takes me has really been the more fulfilling and it's been surprising to me and healing.

Wow.. I feel a connection to you based on your mention of that. It was sort of similar to me - I think it was also in my teens that I started to question it - and for some of the reasons you have mentioned too.

 

Might I add that, when I have talked about this with others, I often refer to myself as having a “Religious Crisis” through my late teens and into my 20’s as well - this is because of the early religious experiences that I had - but also knowing that Spirituality is where it’s at to me. Some of it is still in my mind now, but I am more comfortable knowing that this is where I sit now and that Spirituality has been so much more fulfilling for me.

 

I guess I regret nothing and I have enjoyed the journey I would say! I feel I’ve learnt a-lot from these experiences too! I’m so glad you have had an opportunity to experience what you have - I think this is really the way to being comfortable and finding what you want in life. I’m seriously wishing you the best in your onward journey there!

[moni]

3 minutes ago, Chardxul said:

I was reading about you guys and your experience with church. My spiritual awakening with phenomena actually started completely Abrahamic. I realized that in one of my posts I should have made that more clear, I didn’t mean to mislead anyone. But it’s practically all the same to me these days because I no longer devote myself to anyone anymore. I do what I can to devote myself to love. And I do what I can to respect everyone. I’m just not into religion anymore, unless it’s my own that I created from scratch. However, I still experience Jesus and other religious figures. The point is that what I prayed for as a Christian and later as a Luciferian (the righteous versions) then later getting into Paganism is to not have anyone against me and have all of those phenomena on my side. I’m literally experiencing it now. But, there are just too many points from each religion that I don’t agree with and that have been disproven as well… But spirituality is very real, as it involves physical reality manipulation - which can’t be denied. I have experienced this in different ways, more commonly in the form of… is extreme the right word? Extreme signs… Meaning basically getting my whole world completely overwhelmed with signs everywhere I looked. It was wild. But, all spiritual beings can cause those signs, not just “God.” And, since we are on the topic, we know from experience that Tarot is an example of a physical display of spirituality. But, from my experience, it isn’t mandatory to choose a side and it’s not mandatory to subscribe to a religion. Thank goodness!

Hi Chardxul,

 

Thank you for raising such an important point.

 

I think this highlights a big importance of the “Spiritual Crisis” I mentioned earlier to another member here on this thread. The thing is - in a plain state - Religion is said to teach love - but so often I find that Religions don’t allow freedom of some sort - i.e, not being able to be with someone else because they don’t follow the same religion, and things like that. To me, that doesn’t exhibit love, but restriction. I also feel, Religion can start to get a bit awry when people start interpreting stuff differently. I have no problem with people being Religious if it works for them, but as long as it doesn’t impose on others or impact others negatively.

 

For me, based on my own early experiences, Religion served more as a way to focus on some fundamental morals and values in life - but to be clear, people don’t need Religion to do that, but I found it did help me in some ways. The older I got however, the more I believed that Spirituality did exactly that for me, but in a much more fulfilling way, it made me think - “This is how I want to live my life”. With Love and constant learning.

 

Thank you so much for sharing your view with me. 

[Misterei]

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Edited December 1 by Misterei

[moni]

2 hours ago, Misterei said:

LOL sometimes I think my life has gone from one spiritual crisis to another. Like @DanielJUK the journey has been messy. I was lucky to grow up in a religiously diverse area. As a child I got to attend one friend's Jewish seder and another friend's catholic communion. While I was raised Greek Orthodox. My dad was agnostic-atheist, so I got that, too. I must have had pagan leanings, tho. I remember making-up a pretend religion and offering a bird skull and various plants on my pretend altar.

 

Later I got involved with all sorts of paths [wicca / neo-pagan; chaos magick, OTO, voudou, buddhism, theosophy, etc.] In the end I rejected each path. None was right for me. At times the process was painful. Friendships lost and experiencing damage arising from practices that were harmful to my bio-energetic physiology. "Rejection of the Guru" is in my natal chart.

 

What stuck through life was Tarot, Vedic Astrology, Fourth Way, and one other I won't mention here. Going into the crone stage of life -- now I feel at peace with my own eclectic philosophy and no longer seek groups to join. It's lonely but at the same time it's the Quest for the Grail. For me, the Grail wasn't found in a group. It's something I must find within. This was a hard lesson.  Many people do find the Grail in a certain group or path. But not me.

You know what. I do hear you. I think that these experiences do shape you - if you encounter things, it gives you an opportunity to see whether or not it works for you.

 

I’m glad you have managed to get to a place where you feel content and within your own philosophy. I wish you the best on your journey.