JohnLetter Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) In one website I see one date, on another one I see different date. Please tell me correct date for Aces and Kings. Thank you! (Rider Waite Cards) Edited August 24, 2019 by JohnLetter
AJ-ish/Sharyn Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 John, what I've decided over the years about timing and what facing left means and if swords are fire or air, is choose what feels best to me, and then Be Consistent. We can be swayed by many reasonable arguments about all of it. Do what feels right, seems a good idea, and use that method all the time.
fire cat pickles Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 I've used the Aces as the solstices and equinoxes before, and Kings as the cardinal signs of the astrological calendar.
Raggydoll Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 For court card correspondences, here’s the resource I would go by https://michaelsternbach.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/how-do-the-courts-cards-of-various-decks-really-relate-to-one-another/ as it says in the end, kings would be the fixed signs (which sort of makes sense as they sit firmly on their thrones) and that means that they represent the dates that each of those zodiac signs rule. So: Taurus for king of pentacles, Leo for king of wands, Scorpio for king of cups and Aquarius for king of swords. And aces could be either whole seasons or the equinoxes/solstices, just like @fire cat pickles said
fire cat pickles Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 Oops, sorry, I meant Kings are fixed. Queens are cardinal...
Raggydoll Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, fire cat pickles said: Oops, sorry, I meant Kings are fixed. Queens are cardinal... I had to double check myself that I typed it right. Astrology is not one of my strongest points.
Guest Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) The variations are a consequence of the history of the Smith-Waite tarot since its publication. Over time, various authorities have proposed different systems; particularly with the so-called clones. You will not find a correct source. Ordinarily, the pages and the aces are associated with the four quarters beginning with the vernal equinox: pentacles (spring - wet period), wands (summer - hot period), cups (autumn - drying period), swords (winter - cold period). The queens, kings, and cavaliers/princes rule three decans, commencing with the last ten of the preceding sign: Starting with the queen of wands, one has the last ten degrees of Pisces and the first twenty degrees of Aries. The king of pentacles presides over the last ten degrees of Aries and the first twenty of Taurus. The cavalier of swords governs the last ten degrees of Taurus and the first twenty of Gemini. This cycle of the queen, the king, and the knight continues around the twelve celestial houses. Ultimately, queens are considered movable, kings fixed, and knights are double-bodied. Personally, that has never made sense to me, but I do not like to conflate my cards and my astrological practices. Edited August 24, 2019 by Guest
JohnLetter Posted August 25, 2019 Author Posted August 25, 2019 Anybody can tell me in Aces cards "how long before" days/weeks/monts/years are these?
Guest Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Again, there is no consensus. All aces are 'one' from which one can infer that someone will not take too long to appear. In terms of pace, money changes hand quickly (pentacles = fast), but with a chalice you can enjoy your drink leisurely (cups - slow). Swords and wands would likewise be fast and slow, respectively. Each ace is associated with a season, and you can then consider each subsequent card being a week within that season. If the ace appears you can just say spring, et cetera. However you will find numerous systems.
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